Would you rather have Rondo or Sullinger back right now?

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

[Atzar]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

You act like Rondo's 44-point game is the only time he's ever played well in the playoffs.

Go look at his game log.  He has a pile of impressive playoff games.

[Lightskinsmurf]

Not sure, I'm confident sully could come back right now and it would not mess with chemistry. I'm NOT confident saying that about rondo.

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

You act like Rondo's 44-point game is the only time he's ever played well in the playoffs.

Go look at his game log.  He has a pile of impressive playoff games.

no its not. But how many times did rondo score within the last 5 min of an important playoff game?? I'm not stating Sully has done anything either obviously, but i think Rondo's contribution is overstated by many in this forum. without him we were way over 500 beating some pretty darn good teams. With him earlier in the year we weren't that great. He went lazy mode this year and let the "star" treatment get to his head.  I don't hate him but i hope he gets back to playing the right way as he did any year before this one. This is the reason why i like Sully. There is no pounding the ball, no barking for the ball. Actually did alot of the dirty work for a guy that is much more talented than that. No complaints

[Roy H.]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

Respectfully, I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously, and that's without even taking into account that you (intentionally?) misrepresented my words.  If you haven't noticed Rondo taking over playoff games, I guess my question would be, where have you been?

I'd point to the Chicago series in 2009 and the Knicks series in 2011 as good starting points.  Rondo has had some absolutely dominant playoff performances.

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

Respectfully, I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously, and that's without even taking into account that you (intentionally?) misrepresented my words.  If you haven't noticed Rondo taking over playoff games, I guess my question would be, where have you been?

I'd point to the Chicago series in 2009 and the Knicks series in 2011 as good starting points.  Rondo has had some absolutely dominant playoff performances.

Roy , i have a short memory. I need consistency. Rondo from the past should be Rondo in the future, a much better player. But this year he regressed and took this "star" label over his head. When have you seen this happen to KG?

Again i don't dislike Rondo and i'm sure when i can reflect i will remember all the great stuff he did. But where is the evidence he can do it again when he has shown such a poor performance earlier this year?? All of a sudden bc its the playoffs , he is going to be a different player?? This doesn't sit well with me, bc you bring it now, when your team is going on a terrible slump

[CelticInRedSox]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

you know what 2010 rondo did? A man is open, you get the pass. You grab the rebound and you are off to the races for a fast break layup. On defense still gambled but tried much harder. Where did all this go this year?

[go11celtics]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

Respectfully, I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously, and that's without even taking into account that you (intentionally?) misrepresented my words.  If you haven't noticed Rondo taking over playoff games, I guess my question would be, where have you been?

I'd point to the Chicago series in 2009 and the Knicks series in 2011 as good starting points.  Rondo has had some absolutely dominant playoff performances.

Roy , i have a short memory. I need consistency. Rondo from the past should be Rondo in the future, a much better player. But this year he regressed and took this "star" label over his head. When have you seen this happen to KG?

Again i don't dislike Rondo and i'm sure when i can reflect i will remember all the great stuff he did. But where is the evidence he can do it again when he has shown such a poor performance earlier this year?? All of a sudden bc its the playoffs , he is going to be a different player?? This doesn't sit well with me, bc you bring it now, when your team is going on a terrible slump

When has anyone on this team brought it during the regular season since 2009? This team lives for the playoffs, and every year rondo steps up in the postseason. Whether or not you agree with his approach to the regular season, there is no denying he has put on some amazing performances in the playoffs. The only reason this team hasn't fallen apart is because they have half a dozen guards to fill his role. But during the playoffs they will greatly miss RR.

[The Rondo Show]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

you know what 2010 rondo did? A man is open, you get the pass. You grab the rebound and you are off to the races for a fast break layup. On defense still gambled but tried much harder. Where did all this go this year?

Gotta love how selective your memory is

[CelticInRedSox]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

you know what 2010 rondo did? A man is open, you get the pass. You grab the rebound and you are off to the races for a fast break layup. On defense still gambled but tried much harder. Where did all this go this year?

Well this year he hasn't performed to that level - flat out. However I don't think you can discount his ability to perform at that level especially in the playoffs.

Do I think it's right that he seems to magically step up his game in the postseason and sometimes "take games off" in the regular season? Not at all. But the fact of the matter is that Rondo is still fully capable of performing at the 2010 game 4 vs Cleveland level and at an even higher level now. He is fully capable of going out in the playoffs, creating his own shot, and doing whatever else is necessary to get the team a win.

The question posed was if you could get one back this year, which one do you take, and I think that it's extremely difficult to justify taking Sully (still a rookie) over Rondo (a consistent superstar in the playoffs) - even if Rondo didn't seem to perform at the same level this year. It's because he has the capability to reach that level.

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

Respectfully, I have a hard time taking comments like this seriously, and that's without even taking into account that you (intentionally?) misrepresented my words.  If you haven't noticed Rondo taking over playoff games, I guess my question would be, where have you been?

I'd point to the Chicago series in 2009 and the Knicks series in 2011 as good starting points.  Rondo has had some absolutely dominant playoff performances.

Roy , i have a short memory. I need consistency. Rondo from the past should be Rondo in the future, a much better player. But this year he regressed and took this "star" label over his head. When have you seen this happen to KG?

Again i don't dislike Rondo and i'm sure when i can reflect i will remember all the great stuff he did. But where is the evidence he can do it again when he has shown such a poor performance earlier this year?? All of a sudden bc its the playoffs , he is going to be a different player?? This doesn't sit well with me, bc you bring it now, when your team is going on a terrible slump

When has anyone on this team brought it during the regular season since 2009? This team lives for the playoffs, and every year rondo steps up in the postseason. Whether or not you agree with his approach to the regular season, there is no denying he has put on some amazing performances in the playoffs. The only reason this team hasn't fallen apart is because they have half a dozen guards to fill his role. But during the playoffs they will greatly miss RR.

I understand, but are you 40 to only have the intensity and energy to bring it in the playoffs?? you see kg play like this? Or Kobe or Lebron?

Rondo of 2008-2010 brought it in the regular season and playoffs. Imo the "star" treatment got to his brains. Instead of playing blue collar basketball which is best suited for him, he tried to play "picking your spot" basketball. It didn't work for so many games in a row, but he still didn't really change his style.  The way it was it seemed was, i got my assist record, i'm considered a top pg, i'm an all star and its ok if we got a mediocre record so far bc it will be different in the playoffs. I will be different.

This is what i think he was thinking. Only way to explain his 75 percent level of play vs playoff rondo. This is not what great players are made of. This is what Gilbert Arenas is made of. Rondo should not be going down this road. Especially bossing guys around and after almost every rebound barking for the ball was ridiculous

[sed522002]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

you know what 2010 rondo did? A man is open, you get the pass. You grab the rebound and you are off to the races for a fast break layup. On defense still gambled but tried much harder. Where did all this go this year?

- Rondo was not the only reason for the losing streak earlier in the season and it's funny how it's always pinned solely on him when clearly this team is inconsistent, hence the 5 game losing streak that just ended.

If they both were healthy, I would want BOTH back. Sully is important, but he's not proven when the performance matters the most (playoffs).

[Tr1boy]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

you know what 2010 rondo did? A man is open, you get the pass. You grab the rebound and you are off to the races for a fast break layup. On defense still gambled but tried much harder. Where did all this go this year?

- Rondo was not the only reason for the losing streak earlier in the season and it's funny how it's always pinned solely on him when clearly this team is inconsistent, hence the 5 game losing streak that just ended.

If they both were healthy, I would want BOTH back. Sully is important, but he's not proven when the performance matters the most (playoffs).

It was him. Why can't you see it still?? Its not even relating to two or three players making it hard to pint point the issue. With rondo we were 23-20, barely in the playoffs, and without him suddenly like 15-6? 

Suddenly the guys gelled and Terry, Green , Lee got better? Sully got better? When in reality sully got more passes and a chance to contribute. On offense the ball was moving, the energy was there, the defense was tight (little gambling , bc rondo was like the only one doing it) and we were winning and rarely losing. It was bc of Rondo and it makes sense bc he was suppose to be the star of the team and had the ball like 70 percent of the time

[Tr1boy]

I know another argument was, why wasn't the majority molding to the needs of rondo. But when you got a whole team that is not going to mold to the way Rondo plays, then Rondo is the one that has to change. But he didn't. Again its either he is "stuck" or the "star" treatment got to him. I don't think he gave respect for his teammates that they deserved.

Bottom line is we were mere avg with him being the star and without him the team was excellent. so you guys figure it out