Would you rather have Rondo or Sullinger back right now?

[Roy H.]

Would you rather have Derrick Rose or Taj Gibson?

Tony Parker or DeJuan Blair?

Deron Williams or Kris Humphries?

And people say that some of us around her over value Rondo?  C'mon.  I like Sully, but this is insane.

Very different situations. The Celtics are one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA. They aren't elite and they aren't deep (besides in the guard positions, which only helps Sully's case). DJ White and Randolph aren't playoff caliber role players. Also factor in chemistry.


We are like a car missing a tire. Rondo is like a premier engine, one of the best in the world. Sully is a tire in this case. You can replace the engine with this new premier engine, but a tire is what we need right now. We'll go fast with the premier tire, but the car had already been trucking along as is, even though it was constantly derailed by car injuries. A tire would help the car actually maintain levelness without the evil screeching noise that would/is being made.

To continue this analogy...

There's about a 2% chance that the car could win the race with its elite engine and the donut it's currently driving on.

There's a 0.00000001% chance they're winning with the new tire without the engine.

[SHAQATTACK]

Sully

TP 

Truth never lies.

[SHAQATTACK]

Would you rather have Derrick Rose or Taj Gibson?

Tony Parker or DeJuan Blair?

Deron Williams or Kris Humphries?

And people say that some of us around her over value Rondo?  C'mon.  I like Sully, but this is insane.

Very different situations. The Celtics are one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA. They aren't elite and they aren't deep (besides in the guard positions, which only helps Sully's case). DJ White and Randolph aren't playoff caliber role players. Also factor in chemistry.


We are like a car missing a tire. Rondo is like a premier engine, one of the best in the world. Sully is a tire in this case. You can replace the engine with this new premier engine, but a tire is what we need right now. We'll go fast with the premier tire, but the car had already been trucking along as is, even though it was constantly derailed by car injuries. A tire would help the car actually maintain levelness without the evil screeching noise that would/is being made.

To continue this analogy...

There's about a 2% chance that the car could win the race with its elite engine and the donut it's currently driving on.

There's a 0.00000001% chance they're winning with the new tire without the engine.

yeah..well the problem with Rondo

is his tire goes FLAT too often.


Time to change brands.

[sed522002]

you guys get really upset when someone disagrees with you lol

sheesh

chainsmokinglikedino is especially. Talks about skip bayless nonesense gibber jabber. Doesn't actually provide logic in how the new team is better with Rondo and what proof there is this is true. We went 23-20 and was hanging on for our playoff lives, but you can't talk  bad about Rondo bc he is a playoff performer and the face of the franchise.

We were 20-23 not 23-20. Sorry but you keep saying the wrong record and its annoying me lol. Carry on as you were tho.

Actually if we wanna be 'technical' they're 18-20  with Rondo(subtracting the games he didn't play) since the ENTIRE reason for them winning or losing is because of him. A couple of those games really should have been wins (especially the Chicago @ Boston w/ that bad call on the inbound pass and that freaking Belinelli prayer shot)

[zimbo]

Cmon folks....just flat out lol@ choosing sully


can't even wrap my brain around this lunacy

lol..it's crazy

To answer the question. Rondo, for sure. The rebounding isn't the problem really. Guys make up for that. There is no play maker and it has really been exposed, esp in March. Rondo absence is felt now. How many more games is PP going to turn the ball over like 6 times in the first half? Avery, Terry and Lee just aren't PGs. T-Will is alright, but vastly inferior to Rondo.

[connor]

Would you rather have Derrick Rose or Taj Gibson?

Tony Parker or DeJuan Blair?

Deron Williams or Kris Humphries?

And people say that some of us around her over value Rondo?  C'mon.  I like Sully, but this is insane.

Very different situations. The Celtics are one of the worst rebounding teams in the NBA. They aren't elite and they aren't deep (besides in the guard positions, which only helps Sully's case). DJ White and Randolph aren't playoff caliber role players. Also factor in chemistry.


We are like a car missing a tire. Rondo is like a premier engine, one of the best in the world. Sully is a tire in this case. You can replace the engine with this new premier engine, but a tire is what we need right now. We'll go fast with the premier tire, but the car had already been trucking along as is, even though it was constantly derailed by car injuries. A tire would help the car actually maintain levelness without the evil screeching noise that would/is being made.

To continue this analogy...

There's about a 2% chance that the car could win the race with its elite engine and the donut it's currently driving on.

There's a 0.00000001% chance they're winning with the new tire without the engine.

yeah..well the problem with Rondo

is his tire goes FLAT too often.


Time to change brands.

Look I get all the Rondo criticism, that rebounding is our biggest flaw and that our best depth is at the guard position.

But the answer is still Rondo.

The only chance the Celtics have of truly competing in the playoffs without getting extremely lucky and having other teams' key players going down, is if KG, PP, and Rondo are all healthy and playing.

Adding Sully does make us a better team because of his energy, rebounding and size, but that team is still not good enough to win four 7-game series in a row. 

Adding Rondo gives the Celtics a decent team that severely lacks front court depth and rebounding, but is still competitive, and has a guy in Rondo that can (and most likely will) go off in a couple games in his triple-double fashion and win the game or at the very least keep a sub-par Celtics team in it until the end.

Sully obviously fits our need so much better, but Rondo adds WAY more value to this team.

[Jeff]

I'd rather have Larry Bird back

[Roy H.]

I'd rather have Larry Bird back

But not Larry Bird's back.

[Fafnir]

Rondo without a single doubt.

[T-LoDaniels]

It seems to me that Celtic fans (more than any other in the NBA) have a tendency to overrate role/bench players with "hustle" and "hard work" and underrate talent.

I love Sullinger but this notion that he brings more to the team than Rondo is laughable.

[playdream]

playoff Rondo would be>>>sully
the problem is this new team when Rondo is on the court he makes all the new guys worse
so Sully will have the net advantage

[Evantime34]

Rondo by a wide margin.

The question is would we have pushed the ball ahead via the pass with him?

Along with improving our scoring he would give us more rebounding out of the back court, superior defense to courtney lee and he is able to get Bradley more involved on offense.

[Spicoli]

Definitely Sullinger. Rondo seems like a decent human being, but i would rather not see him in a Celtic uniform ever again. I'm ready for the Rondo era in Boston to end.

[zimbo]

playoff Rondo would be>>>sully
the problem is this new team when Rondo is on the court he makes all the new guys worse
so Sully will have the net advantage

How does he make the new guys worse? JET was the only one really struggling in January(Pierce too, but he is not new). He played better in Feb. Now in March, JET is struggling again and the team is not winning like they were in Feb and you can't blame that on Rondo because he is not here. 

[BballTim]

Rondo.  Sully can't win a playoff game (or playoff series) nearly on his own.  Rondo can.

I like Sully a lot, but at some point, talent trumps fit.

when did Rondo win a playoff game on his own?? Is as memorable as Green scoring 43 points a few weeks ago. Unless you win, its not memorable nor significant imo

There's the 2010 game 4 against Cleveland that sent LBJ out of town. His line was 29-18-13. Rondo dominated that game

When did he once dominate like this, this year?? I do remember an assist record he was pursuing, and also remember alot of pounding the ball making selective passes and gambling on defense. Losing streaks, slumps. He changed the way he played, with less intensity , laziness and cuteness

  Nobody dominates games like that every night. I think the issue is that no matter what ails the team (Terry's knee, PP's pinched nerve, Green needing to get back into shape, the new guys learning the system), you're either calling it "Rondo being lazy" or "Rondo pounding the ball". Rondo wasn't the reason our defense fell apart when KG went to the bench earlier this year. He isn't the reason that PP and Terry were shooting poorly and scoring less when they were less healthy. He's not the reason Green was shooting so poorly the first 2 months of the season. Laying the losing streaks and slumps on him is nonsense.