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Should Danny Trade Out of The 2013 Draft?
« on: March 28, 2013, 12:09:22 AM »

Offline diconzo

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Should Danny Ainge try to trade out of this draft? On one hand, there are a lot of bigs. I don't see any of them making a huge impact though, and I have a feeling a lot of the players in our range won't come out of college (Isaiah Austin, James McAdoo) due to the fact that they know they can become top 5 talents if they work at it. If any team was willing to give up their 2014 first rounder for our pick this year (Not a bad pick, likely in the teens-low 20's) I think DA would have to consider it. At the very least another pick in that draft class makes for a nice trade chip.

We're also a very young team as is and could use the extra roster spot, especially with the China-players getting team options.

Re: Should Danny Trade Out of The 2013 Draft?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 12:18:16 AM »

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all current college players will leave for the nba. why? 2014 will be the strongest draft ever, with wiggins, parker, harrison twins, randel, gordon, etc. occupying the lottery... best contract for current college players will be in the 2013 draft


trading out for 2014 is smart for the reason that it will be a strong draft.

Re: Should Danny Trade Out of The 2013 Draft?
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 12:33:25 AM »

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It depends on who is available.  I expect Ainge to lock onto a few players that he likes and make decisions based on where he expects them to be drafted.

If they are there, he takes one.  If he thinks he can trade down and still get them, he trades down.  If not, he tries to deal.

Unless there is a much bigger deal in the works, it should be a draft day decision.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 12:37:04 AM »

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Unless there's another Sullinger-like dropper (and I don't see any good candidates for that) then this is one draft that I wouldn't mind bowing out of.  Not fond of the talent in this draft. 

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 03:55:44 AM »

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Yeah, I think this is an idea well worth exploring.

The options where the C's expect to be drafting are underwhelming.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 04:43:49 AM »

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Not sure... I think there will be some great talents by the time Danny picks. And if we keep this draft position, Danny could trade down and get a 2nd rounder too.

Trade out would make sense if you are getting a 2014 pick, but that's not happening with all those monster prospects. Now, if you trade this year's pick + players to get a building block for the future, that's ok. If not, you can get value from your pick.

I'd love the Cs to pick Dario Saric and stash him in a good Euroleague club for 2-3 years. He's 18, a super talented 6'10 combo forward, born in Sibenik just like Drazen Petrovic  ;) He might be available at middle twenties, so if your top rated prospects are out of reach, you can invest for the future. The additional 2nd rounder could be useful to get Kenny Kadji, who will be 25 by Draft Day. He could contribute from the bench, and is doing fine for Miami FL, but being "old" his lack of "raw potential" will scare teams.

You could always get a good player with 17th pick, so unless a good trade is available, I don't see Ainge trading the pick.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 07:00:16 AM »

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You have to see what your drafting really and where before a deal is made.  Talent seems weak this year.

It's possible we get a good player at 17.   Trading out would meaning matching contracts and if this draft is not so good what makes you think others want to hoard picks?

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 07:55:12 AM »

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I mentioned this as an option in a few other draft threads.

If there's any year where I could see Danny trading the pick, either as part of a package with a player or players to bring in someone better or in a deal to get another pick (or lower picks) for next year,  this would be the year.

We've already got a lot of players signed for next year and a rookie from this upcoming draft doesn't figure to contribute next year.  If KG and PP are coming back, better off to have Danny fill Shavlik and White's spots with better vets than another rookie.  (no, Melo is not an option, he should remain in D-league another year).

something realistic may be a trade with a team with a better record that's either picking very late or a team without a first rounder to get their first and possibly second rounder for 2014.  Lots of current players will be expiring deals that year and be attractive trade bait for deals that can help reload the team with good young talent faster.

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 08:34:35 AM »

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No one is going to give up a 2014 pick for a 2013 pick, so you can just scratch that off right now.  That said, if I got a player worth giving up the pick for I would do it in an instance.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 09:51:34 AM »

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No one is going to give up a 2014 pick for a 2013 pick, so you can just scratch that off right now.  That said, if I got a player worth giving up the pick for I would do it in an instance.
not necessarily.  the 15th or 16th pick in 2013 might be able to get a 1st round 2014 pick from 25 or after.

here's a hypothetical.  If the Olynyk from Gonzaga is available with our pick and he's someone Miami thinks could help them next year, they just might consider moving their 2014 first and second to get him.  Granted that pick would probably come in at 29 or 30 but in a year when the C's are looking to add more talent, that wouldn't hurt as either an extra player being picked or as a trade asset to possibly move up in the draft.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 10:03:47 AM »

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No one is going to give up a 2014 pick for a 2013 pick, so you can just scratch that off right now.  That said, if I got a player worth giving up the pick for I would do it in an instance.

Agreed.  2014 picks are going to be like gold.  Now one will be giving them up very easily.

But I think the C's should be looking hard at draft day trades to try to get a big man.  That would be the day to go after someone like Gortat, if you can.

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 10:16:51 AM »

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Unless there's another Sullinger-like dropper (and I don't see any good candidates for that) then this is one draft that I wouldn't mind bowing out of.  Not fond of the talent in this draft.

One candidate is Shabazz Muhammad. He was once considered 1st overall pick potential, but is dropping like a rock. He's currently listed at #9 on nbadraft.net. If one or two more negatives come out on him, he may slip to the Cs at ~17.

Another thought is to draft one of these project big men, Gobert or Isaiah Austin maybe, whichever Danny deems as the best. Have them spend next season in Maine, like Melo this season. If PP & KG are gone and Rondo misses Nov & Dec then a much higher 2014 pick would be great.

I am not saying tank the season, but put Rondo on the DRose recovery plan and let Jeff Green, Sully, Bradley, Melo, and the other youngsters play all the minutes that they can handle.... and only win 28-32 games... top 4-7 picks.

Just saying...

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 10:26:29 AM »

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I like Macadoo, Dieng and Withey in terms of late 1st round picks that could contribute something and become solid role player additions.

Macadoo clearly has upside but may take a couple years to develop. Alongside the likes of Jeff and co we'd have some real length, athleticism, and scoring ability.

I think Dieng could be an immediate contributor on D, shot blocking and REBOUNDING. Withey is pretty mature and could add good minutes off the bench next to or in place of KG, also.

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Given that Ainge supposedly refused to give up any draft picks at the trade deadline, I think it is highly unlikely he would trade out of the first round.

He may trade down in an attempt to snag a second-round pick along with a later first and he may draft a backcourt player, though.
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I wouldn't be against trading out of the first for a future pick if Danny doesn't love any of the prospects available.

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