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Which big should the Celtics for the 2013 draft?

Withey
6 (18.8%)
Dieng
5 (15.6%)
Olynyk
10 (31.3%)
Gobert
4 (12.5%)
Austin
7 (21.9%)

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poll: Which big should the Celtics pick for the 2013 draft?
« on: March 26, 2013, 04:56:58 PM »

Offline Tr1boy

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Luckily from where we will pick 16-20 in this upcoming draft, we will have a decent # of big options who will also be BPA at that point.

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Gorgui Dieng: At times you may think you are watching Hakeem Olajuwon. The way he moves swiftly on the court, long wingspan, passing skills and especially athleticism. But the closer you look, you will see an unrefined player with limited amount of upside due to his age.  The feel of whats going on the court is not advanced outside of his passing.  Weighing the positives and negatives, still if he can add on 10-15 pounds of muscles, get better coaching, you might have a decent big for years to come. Potential: Ezeli with more offensive skills

Kelly Olynyk: Like i've posted before, this guy is a mix of scola, hawes with a touch of nowitzki. Which is a good thing but also a bad thing. During college he liked to take the man guarding him out in the perimeter, playing the pick and roll game all night long. Has ok post moves but mainly likes to operate from the perimeter. Has an assortment of offensive tricks and a steady jump shot. But on the other hand there are worries about how his avg defense will translate in the nba. Potential: Scola with better handles but less willingness to battle inside

Robert Gobert: Don't know much about him other than a few clips i've seen on youtube and scouting reports i've read. Is 7'2 and has 7'9 wingspan!  Looks pretty mobile and likes to live under the basket blocking shots and rebounding the ball. Offers very little offensive skill to the table other than dunks and tip ins. Apparantly is a decent passer. Potential : Biedrins

Isaiah Austin: A top 5 talent big. On offense has a nice handle/crossover, can shoot the ball well from all over the court, pass out of double teams and posseses underrated post moves. On defense he can block and rebound alot due to his length, quickness, athleticsm. Is competetive, team oriented and has pretty good bbiq. The #1 issue is that he is really skinny.  His legs are literally like two toothpicks and has already been through a few ankle/leg related issues this year. There are questions in how much more strength he will be able to acquire onto his body.  Potential: A weaker KG with better handles

Jeff Withey: He is just above athletic and quick, doesn't jump really high though he jumps quickly off the ground. He is a legit 7 ft guy with a nice 7'2 wingspan. #1 quality about withey is the intangibles he brings on the court. He is an advanced shot blocker and disrupts opponents ability to penetrate into the paint.  But he won't usually swat it to the stands and instead grabs the ball after , launching a long fast break pass.  During pick and roll situations, if a guard thinks he has withey beat to the basket, next thing you know the ball gets blocked behind him. On offense he is excellent in setting picks or knows when to post up for the ball. He doesn't have advanced post moves , other than a big sweeping hook shot going either way, but will get deep position in the post, ask for the ball, bring other defenders into the basket and pass it out for a easier shot or drive. If his man tries to front him, using his sure hands will grab lobs and score an easy dunk/layup. He has an underrated jump shot and is a very good FT shooter. High bbiq , knows his limitations, efficient and turns up the instensity during crucial moments of the game.  Potential: Ostertag/Tyler Zeller mix


From the list who would you pick to help out the celts and why? Or should we sit on Melo (who has not progressed in the nbdl) and draft the best avail non big player?
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I like Jeff Withey and Kelly Olynyk. I think both players have high basketball IQ's, which I think is the most important quality to have with regards to being able to play NBA defense. I don't think either have enormous upside, but are just solid NBA players.

I doubt Gobert falls to our range. Too much physical upside there.

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Gobert and his 7'9" wingspan

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Kelly Olynyk can be a good rotation player, and agree with T-Lo, Gobert has too much potential to be available. Gobert could be a good option (Saric is my favorite, though) to keep in Europe a couple of years in a good Euroleague team where he can get good experience.

Withey is getting a lot of attention in the tournament, and he'll probably end up in late lottery.

If the Celtics got Gobert or Saric, I'd love them to buy a second rounder and pick Kenny Kadji from Miami. He could be a cheaper option, he's 25 and could contribute right away.

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I think that Olynyk is the best option.  He's somewhat athletic, strong, decent shooter and has a bit of a nasty streak.  I also like Payne from MSU (big risk reward type) as well as Stein from Kentucky (see Payne).

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Gobert and his 7'9" wingspan

Or, alternatively, we starve a human of normal dimensions for a few months, give him stilt-shoes and those extendo-grabber things that they give to old people, and then throw him out there on the court.

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We need a center, protector of the paint, shot blocker. None of these guys is ready to do that. Gobert and Dieng are shot blockers but far from ready to help. They are other Fab Melo. Big guy, shot blocker but not ready to help. If we select any of Gobert or Dieng they will spend time in d-league. And for Olynyk i don't like him. Maybe he can score but he looks like another S.Hawes and believe me guy like Hawes doesn't have what it takes to play for Celtics. Austin is the guy with most potential if we are selecting a big.

So my thinking is draft the best avaliable player and look for a trade or free agent for our center problems. I say draft G.Robinson, J.McAdoo or A.Goodwin. Those are future allstars so if some of those guys is avaliable select him. And i forgot T.Hardaway who we can add to this list. Gobert and Dieng are not worth waisting a 16-18 pick for them

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if anyone knows more , why is Gobert considered to be gone before we pick?? What makes him different than a Hassan Whiteside??

Having height, ridicoulous wingspan, mobility and willingness to mix in the paint, doesn't mean alot in today's nba like it used to.

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Anybody else getting depressed looking at this list?

Are there any good power forwards available when Boston will likely be picking?

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Alex Len.

I want Danny to do whatever he can to acquire him as long as he does not give up Paul, KG, Rondo and Green.

I love Sully but I'd give him for Len.

Now, if we can't get Len, it has to be Olynyk if we're going extra offense, or Whitey if we're going interior defense.
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Anybody else getting depressed looking at this list?

Are there any good power forwards available when Boston will likely be picking?

James McAdoo

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Anybody else getting depressed looking at this list?

Are there any good power forwards available when Boston will likely be picking?

James McAdoo

I'd take a flier on Arsalan Kazemi.

The dude is undersized at 6'7", but he's blue collar, hustles, can shoot, tenacious on the boards and is rough and rugged. Perfect for the Celtics.
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Anybody else getting depressed looking at this list?

Are there any good power forwards available when Boston will likely be picking?

James McAdoo

no thank you. Not only disappeared for most of the year but on the last game went 5-19 and got owned by withey.

There are honestly no list of decent pf's in the 16-20 range. Actually don't even think all of 1st round other than Noel, Bennet and Olynyk (if thats what he is considered)

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Alex Len.

I want Danny to do whatever he can to acquire him as long as he does not give up Paul, KG, Rondo and Green.

I love Sully but I'd give him for Len.

Now, if we can't get Len, it has to be Olynyk if we're going extra offense, or Whitey if we're going interior defense.

Len will be a top 10 pick. Sully is just recovering from surgery. With our pick + sully we be able to prob get a few picks sooner but not to the area len gets picked.

Lens biggest issue imo is consistentcy. But it is promising to see he really upped his game against big seeded schools like Duke. Plumlee prob didn't know what hit him

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We went big last draft and sent one to the D-league.  If that's the plan again, then I don't want to go big.  We have got KG, JSullinger, CWilcox, JGreen and BBass.  I am not even counting DJWhite, FMelo and Shav.  So I am not sure how will Doc find minutes if we go big.