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Which big should the Celtics for the 2013 draft?

Withey
6 (18.8%)
Dieng
5 (15.6%)
Olynyk
10 (31.3%)
Gobert
4 (12.5%)
Austin
7 (21.9%)

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Voting closed: June 28, 2013, 04:56:58 PM

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Re: poll: Which big should the Celtics pick for the 2013 draft?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 08:50:03 PM »

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We went big last draft and sent one to the D-league.  If that's the plan again, then I don't want to go big.  We have got KG, JSullinger, CWilcox, JGreen and BBass.  I am not even counting DJWhite, FMelo and Shav.  So I am not sure how will Doc find minutes if we go big.

Next year we will only have KG, Sully, Bass, Melo on the books. Everyone else is you listed is on a trial basis. Wilcox especially unless he ends in spectacular fashion won't be brought back. So in reality that leaves us with Sully, Bass, KG (might retire) and Melo (i doubt will be ready for the nba).

Melo to me was a risky pick. Not only can he not get nba speed but he is struggling to play proper nbdl basketball. Guys like that rarely get it

Thus we need a big. A legit option

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 08:59:50 PM »

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We went big last draft and sent one to the D-league.  If that's the plan again, then I don't want to go big.  We have got KG, JSullinger, CWilcox, JGreen and BBass.  I am not even counting DJWhite, FMelo and Shav.  So I am not sure how will Doc find minutes if we go big.

Next year we will only have KG, Sully, Bass, Melo on the books. Everyone else is you listed is on a trial basis. Wilcox especially unless he ends in spectacular fashion won't be brought back. So in reality that leaves us with Sully, Bass, KG (might retire) and Melo (i doubt will be ready for the nba).

Melo to me was a risky pick. Not only can he not get nba speed but he is struggling to play proper nbdl basketball. Guys like that rarely get it

Thus we need a big. A legit option

I feel uncomfortable / reluctant in taking another limited or project center with Fab Melo on the roster.

I think we should either be more patient and see how he develops or trade Fab Melo in order to free up that roster spot for another project center.

I am still curious about Fab Melo's long term potential because of his physical tools. Not sure I give up on that for any of the defensive orientated centers that are options in this draft.

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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 09:03:13 PM »

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We went big last draft and sent one to the D-league.  If that's the plan again, then I don't want to go big.  We have got KG, JSullinger, CWilcox, JGreen and BBass.  I am not even counting DJWhite, FMelo and Shav.  So I am not sure how will Doc find minutes if we go big.

Next year we will only have KG, Sully, Bass, Melo on the books. Everyone else is you listed is on a trial basis. Wilcox especially unless he ends in spectacular fashion won't be brought back. So in reality that leaves us with Sully, Bass, KG (might retire) and Melo (i doubt will be ready for the nba).

Melo to me was a risky pick. Not only can he not get nba speed but he is struggling to play proper nbdl basketball. Guys like that rarely get it

Thus we need a big. A legit option

I just don't think we can afford a wasted pick.  If there is a big out there that we can draft and make the rotation,  then I am all for it.




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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 09:08:31 PM »

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We went big last draft and sent one to the D-league.  If that's the plan again, then I don't want to go big.  We have got KG, JSullinger, CWilcox, JGreen and BBass.  I am not even counting DJWhite, FMelo and Shav.  So I am not sure how will Doc find minutes if we go big.

Next year we will only have KG, Sully, Bass, Melo on the books. Everyone else is you listed is on a trial basis. Wilcox especially unless he ends in spectacular fashion won't be brought back. So in reality that leaves us with Sully, Bass, KG (might retire) and Melo (i doubt will be ready for the nba).

Melo to me was a risky pick. Not only can he not get nba speed but he is struggling to play proper nbdl basketball. Guys like that rarely get it

Thus we need a big. A legit option

I just don't think we can afford a wasted pick.  If there is a big out there that we can draft and make the rotation,  then I am all for it.

i agree. Thats why i'd choose Withey. He is nba ready. Olynyk needs to tune up his defense but also could step in and help out.

Unless i see a different Fab Melo over the summer with further work on his body and play, i would trade him for an early 2013 pick.  Lots of decent guys like Erick Green, Deshaun Thomas, Cory Jefferson, Seth Curry will be available then and able to step in and make a contribution

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 09:20:39 PM »

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Robert Gobert: Don't know much about him other than a few clips i've seen on youtube and scouting reports i've read. Is 7'2 and has 7'9 wingspan!  Looks pretty mobile and likes to live under the basket blocking shots and rebounding the ball. Offers very little offensive skill to the table other than dunks and tip ins. Apparantly is a decent passer. Potential : Biedrins



Biedrins is a stiff. Gobert moves the floor like a gazelle. At present, he is a poor man's Pau Gasol - defensively. On offense, he does a lot of tip ins and double handed dunks at a very quick rate.

Re: poll: Which big should the Celtics pick for the 2013 draft?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 09:24:01 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 09:26:46 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.
Yeah he looks to me to be a Greg Stiemsma type instead of a starting level guy.

Still a useful player, but not someone I'd be excited about.

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 09:41:39 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.
Yeah he looks to me to be a Greg Stiemsma type instead of a starting level guy.

Still a useful player, but not someone I'd be excited about.

you got high expectations. We are not drafting in the top 10, to warrant "lets get excited".

But we do need impact/utility vs project. Withey is no melo. Have you not watched what he did vs unc? What he did against sully last year?  Another 5-10 pounds of muscle, he is a starter in the mold of Jeff Foster imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gm8EjSg5I

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Re: poll: Which big should the Celtics pick for the 2013 draft?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 10:00:26 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.
Yeah he looks to me to be a Greg Stiemsma type instead of a starting level guy.

Still a useful player, but not someone I'd be excited about.

you got high expectations. We are not drafting in the top 10, to warrant "lets get excited".

But we do need impact/utility vs project. Withey is no melo. Have you not watched what he did vs unc? What he did against sully last year?

I am more inclined to take a chance on somebody with more risky with more potential than a lower ceiling but ready contributor draft pick.

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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 10:09:15 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.
Yeah he looks to me to be a Greg Stiemsma type instead of a starting level guy.

Still a useful player, but not someone I'd be excited about.

you got high expectations. We are not drafting in the top 10, to warrant "lets get excited".

But we do need impact/utility vs project. Withey is no melo. Have you not watched what he did vs unc? What he did against sully last year?

I am more inclined to take a chance on somebody with more risky with more potential than a lower ceiling but ready contributor draft pick.

Hench what you want is another Melo? Or Isiash Austin would be more to your liking. Like another JJJ , if he can't bulk up he can't play in the nba. Its risky no doubt

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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2013, 10:30:26 PM »

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Kelly Olynyk can be a good rotation player, and agree with T-Lo, Gobert has too much potential to be available. Gobert could be a good option (Saric is my favorite, though) to keep in Europe a couple of years in a good Euroleague team where he can get good experience.

Withey is getting a lot of attention in the tournament, and he'll probably end up in late lottery.

If the Celtics got Gobert or Saric, I'd love them to buy a second rounder and pick Kenny Kadji from Miami. He could be a cheaper option, he's 25 and could contribute right away.

i got to admit Saric is one of those darkhorses that can help change an org around. He has led his junior team to a title and i believe with his current team he is one of the key guys leading charge. Reminds of nowitski or gallianari , players that belong in the nba and are difference makers. His handling of the ball, passing are top notch , with shooting only thing he needs to refine. At 6'10 with decent length , like gallo or nowitski can play either forward positions.  I can't see him getting past by the same team that took Nowitski, Dallas. 

And i think your right. The further Kansas goes in the tourney, the higher Withey will be drafted. Before the tourney he was projected to go late 1st. Now somewhere in the early 20's late teens. We might not even get a shot to grab him, depending on where we pick. Last thing we need is James Michael Mccadoo

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2013, 10:49:48 PM »

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I am not sold on Withey being anything more than a 15mpg backup big man.
Yeah he looks to me to be a Greg Stiemsma type instead of a starting level guy.

Still a useful player, but not someone I'd be excited about.

you got high expectations. We are not drafting in the top 10, to warrant "lets get excited".

But we do need impact/utility vs project. Withey is no melo. Have you not watched what he did vs unc? What he did against sully last year?

I am more inclined to take a chance on somebody with more risky with more potential than a lower ceiling but ready contributor draft pick.

Hench what you want is another Melo? Or Isiash Austin would be more to your liking. Like another JJJ , if he can't bulk up he can't play in the nba. Its risky no doubt

Yeah but at another position. I don't think I take another project center with Fab Melo already here.

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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2013, 11:03:09 PM »

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Re: poll: Which big should the Celtics pick for the 2013 draft?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2013, 11:07:56 PM »

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I say it'll be BPA regardless of position.

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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2013, 11:36:15 PM »

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Isiah Austin, can block shots, has the quickness to blitz screens like the C's are won't to do with their fours. Has a solid jumper that will only improve with time. Biggest potential of any of the guys listed.

His biggest knock is his lack of strength which has lead some posters to compare him to JJJ. At the age of 19 Austin is about the same size as Johnson after 4 years of college.

The time when the Celtics are without Pierce and Garnett is just around the corner, we need to shoot for the moon to find the player that will lead us in the future.

As far as not wanting another project center after drafting Fab. 1. Fab is a project because he has no offensive skill, and a low basketball IQ, Austin is a project because of his lack of strength. 2. If both develop one would be an offensive big and the other would be a defensive one, there is room for both. 3. I think we need to go with the player who has the highest upside regardless of position and it's not like we are stocked at the 5 either.
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