Jeff Green's potential?

[RJ87]

I think he'll do well this season and in the future. I think if the C's let him play in the post more and get him cutting to the basket & getting out in transition, he be a huge asset. But if he's relegated to spot-up shooting, he'll be mediocre.

I like his skill-set and his size + athleticism. The key for Jeff, though, is being in an offensive system to can utilize his talents. He never got that in OKC, they played him out of position for the first 3 and a half yrs of his career, and coming over to Boston midseason already had him behind the curve here. I definitely think he can be a borderline star.

[snively]

What's Marvin Williams potential, or Thad Young's?

Moderately skilled, athletic combo forwards to bring off the bench and create mismatches.

[LooseCannon]

Point forward? His career assist average is 1.6.  He has a better shot of developing into a go-to scorer than being a point forward. 

It's a role he played at Georgetown.  The idea of him running the second unit offense is not that ridiculous.

[LooseCannon]

Well no one really knows , bradley's potential at the start of the season was "bench warmer" then he played decent and it was "rotation player" and at the end of the season he beat a future hall of famer for the starting job.

I do not think you understand the meaning of the word "potential".  During Bradley's rookie season, I insisted that his potential was possible starting shooting guard of the future.

[2short]

Jeff is our number one low post offensive player ESPECIALLY if going against second unit guys.  He can give us minutes at power forward in a running lineup (with kg at center).  But at the small forward spot he gives us really good size, he is a good defender and does a bit of everything.  I think he will turn into an Andre Iguadoa for us.  He will not be the hall of famer like pierce but will help us ate a bit.  No way he doesn't average double digit points, just with low post game and running with rondo good things will happen.  I would expect 14-15 pts, five rebounds and three assists.

[J_Mill35]

Jeff is our number one low post offensive player ESPECIALLY if going against second unit guys.  He can give us minutes at power forward in a running lineup (with kg at center).  But at the small forward spot he gives us really good size, he is a good defender and does a bit of everything.  I think he will turn into an Andre Iguadoa for us.  He will not be the hall of famer like pierce but will help us ate a bit.  No way he doesn't average double digit points, just with low post game and running with rondo good things will happen.  I would expect 14-15 pts, five rebounds and three assists.

i like the comparison but andre is a shutdown defender

[CelticsFanNC]

   Some people around her totally under rate Green.  He's no All-Star but he was a solid starter on a playoff team before being traded to Boston.  Not spectacular but solid and that was without a PG who gets his teammates great looks like Rondo does.

Rondo made a journeyman like Wilcox who was willing to run the court look really good and Wilcox doesn't have anywhere near as much skill or talent as Green does. 

  I have high hopes for Green.  If he runs, Rondo will get him the ball and he will finish.  He can spell both KG and Pierce.

[Boris Badenov]

In his last three OKC years his per-36 scoring averages were 14.7, 14.8 and 14.8. He averaged 14.9 with Boston.

His PERs in his last three OKC years were 13.8, 12.9 and 12.9. His PER with the Celtics was 12.9.

Rebounds? 5.8, 5.3 and 5.4. Then, 5.1 with the Celts.

Assists? 1.6, 1.6 and 1.8. Then, 1.1 with the Celts.

Pick any stat you want, and he has performed at the exact same level for four years now. He's reached his potential.

The only hope I see, and it's a long shot (no pun intended), is for him to become a better 3 point shooter. He is really mediocre (30%), but did shoot 39% in his second year.

If he can shoot 38% or even 35% from 3, he becomes a starting-caliber player in the NBA comparable to Nic Batum.

If not, he is a career bench guy.

[Galeto]

Point forward? His career assist average is 1.6.  He has a better shot of developing into a go-to scorer than being a point forward. 

It's a role he played at Georgetown.  The idea of him running the second unit offense is not that ridiculous.

I know that.  He was a very good passer at Georgetown which makes it all the more surprising that he's been basically a black hole in the NBA.  Positions don't really explain it either because he was a PF in the Princeton offense creating for his teammates in the high post.  No reason why he hasn't looked to pass more as a PF.

Regardless, wouldn't you want to use a guy's track record in a much higher level of competition to judge what kind of role he's capable of filling?  Being a point forward is incredibly hard.  There's like maybe 4 guys right now who can pull it off effectively and saying Green, whose assist percentage of 7.6 is only slightly better than Nick Young's 7.2, is as capable of Pierce of filling the role is pretty ridiculous.

[Texstyles]

In his last three OKC years his per-36 scoring averages were 14.7, 14.8 and 14.8. He averaged 14.9 with Boston.

His PERs in his last three OKC years were 13.8, 12.9 and 12.9. His PER with the Celtics was 12.9.

Rebounds? 5.8, 5.3 and 5.4. Then, 5.1 with the Celts.

Assists? 1.6, 1.6 and 1.8. Then, 1.1 with the Celts.

Pick any stat you want, and he has performed at the exact same level for four years now. He's reached his potential.

The only hope I see, and it's a long shot (no pun intended), is for him to become a better 3 point shooter. He is really mediocre (30%), but did shoot 39% in his second year.

If he can shoot 38% or even 35% from 3, he becomes a starting-caliber player in the NBA comparable to Nic Batum.

If not, he is a career bench guy.

Once again all those stats are good, but I think He was not placed in the best situation to succeed.  Now that he has a full offseason with the C's  and should play more SF over PF we will see.  I think his stats will be better in the roll he will be playing for the C's.  I dont think you can count that half a season, he was learning on the fly.

[LilRip]

i think this year is the make-or-break year for JG in terms of "potential". he's healthy, has had a year to learn the system, will have training camp under his belt and will get a healthy dose of minutes throughout the season.

while he does seem like a role player for his career, given his below-avg PER, i do hope he blossoms into a borderline all-star. Maybe it'll take a 2-week Pierce injury in January to really get him going? I don't know

[Boris Badenov]

Once again all those stats are good, but I think He was not placed in the best situation to succeed.  Now that he has a full offseason with the C's  and should play more SF over PF we will see. 

I've heard this so many times and there's just no basis for it.

First of all, he's going to split time between PF and SF here too. Pierce averaged 34 mpg last year. Unless you think Green is playing 14 minutes per game total, the rest of his minutes must be at PF, and if you think he's going to average 30mpg total, that means 16 are at PF. It won't change much even with a slight decline in Pierce's minutes.

Second, his numbers here and at OKC were never all that much better when he was on the court as an SF. Go to 82games.com and look at the splits by position. If anything, he's a significantly worse offensive player at SF (though better on defense).

Third, how was his "role" so bad in OKC? How was he not in a "situation to succeed"? I mean, you can make those claims, but what facts are they based on? You think Scotty Brooks (who won coach of the year in 09-10, by the way) was consistently mis-using Green in some way? How?

He's a nice NBA-level player. Borderline starter. But he's not going to magically morph into something he hasn't been for the first four years of his career.

[RLewis35]

I can see Jeff being a similar player to Luol Deng with the Cs.

I think this assessment is spot on.

[esel1000]

I can see Jeff being a similar player to Luol Deng with the Cs.

I think this assessment is spot on.

agreed with this. and id take that... in a heartbeat

[blastoidesroidsnoids]

I can see Jeff being a similar player to Luol Deng with the Cs.

I think this assessment is spot on.

agreed with this. and id take that... in a heartbeat

pun intended?