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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2012, 03:07:31 PM »

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and that scares me a bit
There will never be another Pierce, better start getting used to it. But keep the faith, Rondo is a beast.  ;)

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2012, 03:09:17 PM »

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and that scares me a bit
There will never be another Pierce, better start getting used to it. But keep the faith, Rondo is a beast.  ;)
no i mean it scares me investing that much in a sf that you guys claim will never be able to be a make my own shot player. I think he could be still, but not  a pierce caliber level player
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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2012, 03:13:09 PM »

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Jeff Green is going to average 11ppg in the regular season, 12.8ppg in the playoffs - he is going to average 5reb and play 20-30 per night. Jeff Green ftw

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2012, 03:14:50 PM »

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Jeff Green is going to average 11ppg in the regular season, 12.8ppg in the playoffs - he is going to average 5rbg and play 20-30 per night. Jeff Green ftw
And off what fg percentage do you base these guesses off of
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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2012, 03:18:36 PM »

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.4-.5 fg%, I anticipate he will be finishing at the rim about 50% of the time, and say .35 3pt pct

If it happens, it will be a great boost for the Celtics, if he truly plays 20-30 a night then those points will be efficient, and if he grabs around 5 boards per game that will dramatically help us out too.

If he is getting a 36 mill contract I'd hope my prediction comes to fruition

EDIT: If pierce gets in a 5-5-5 KG routine, I say green gets 14-16 PPG on the same fg/3pt pct with slightly higher mpg (30+)

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2012, 03:21:28 PM »

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i just hope that they give him enough looks so he can gain confidence. Just like bradley did with his jumpshot
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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2012, 03:25:15 PM »

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A lot of "erratic" (to be nice) fans saw Jeff Green arrive as a trade piece and expected the universe from him. However those who watch the game immediately saw potential. Jeff Green is a GOOD player. He got a substantial contract for someone that just bounced back from potentially career-ending heart surgery. Green had NO idea how the Celtics (complicated) offensive and defensive schemes worked, which is why he often looked like a deer in the headlights.

The heart issue was just extremely unlucky. He already has a great relationship with the Celtics organization and made it a priority to come here to play. Doc and the players support him. He will have ample chances to prove his worth. This year there is a FULL season (practices), Green will participate in training camp, and he will develop much like Bradley did (though not the same exact way, Bradley initially saw the light because he plays FREAK defense).

Look at Green's numbers from OKC - he was an afterthought there and still performed reasonably well

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2012, 03:33:35 PM »

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Jeff Green could be the 3rd option on a championship team. He just hasn't shown that he can be much better than that. Of course, still a valuable piece, but he won't be able to carry the offensive load for a team.

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2012, 03:36:35 PM »

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i just want him to live up to the expectations that come with his massive contract
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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 03:37:59 PM »

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Well no one really knows , bradley's potential at the start of the season was "bench warmer" then he played decent and it was "rotation player" and at the end of the season he beat a future hall of famer for the starting job.
My point is the nba season is so long that no one knows what is going to happen , he may beat pierce for the starting job or kris joseph can beat him for the back up 3 spot .
One last thing for the guy who said "the chances of green beating pierce for the starting spot are 0.0000004" how much were the chances of bradley beating "you know who" for the starting job last season ?

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2012, 04:14:00 PM »

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I can see Jeff being a similar player to Luol Deng with the Cs.
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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2012, 04:20:06 PM »

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I appreciate the support but I tend to agree with the people that think I'm a bit of a bust and a jack of all trades, master of none

...oh wait, you are talking about Jeff GREEN

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Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2012, 04:25:16 PM »

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He is what he is.


How many straight season of level play from him do we need to see to understand that is what he is in the NBA?
I need to see him play a full healthy season with this group of guys first.

His stats were nearly identical to what they were in Oklahoma City, though.  He hasn't shown any significant improvement since his second season.  Green's a decent player, but he pretty much is what he is - OK at most things, exceptional at nothing.

He's not the new Deng; Deng's one of the best defensive wings in the League and Green...  isn't a terrible defensive player, but he's never been outstanding and there's no reason to believe he suddenly will morph into a shutdown player. 

Green could start for a lot of teams, but really...  he's just a player.  Seems like he gets overvalued because he was a high draft pick and because (when OKC was giving him a ton of minutes) he was accumulating a lot of "volume" stats.

He's a respectable shooter and scorer.

He's an OK rebounder for the SF (terrible at PF).

He doesn't really rack up assists. 

Defense in OK.

But someone please explain to me what Jeff Green really does at a particularly high level.  Why the assumption that he's going to morph into an All Star?

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2012, 04:29:45 PM »

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He won't necessarily reach his potential, but I could see him being a guy who could shot 38-40% from three, playing above-average defense, and being as capable as Paul Pierce in functioning as a point forward and running the offense when Rondo sits.  He won't ever be a go-to scorer like Pierce, though.

Point forward? His career assist average is 1.6.  He has a better shot of developing into a go-to scorer than being a point forward. 

Pierce functioned as the second point during the 2008 championship season and he closed out a majority of the 2008 Finals as a point forward while Rondo sat in the fourth quarter. Green isn't anywhere capable of doing that.

Re: Jeff Green's potential?
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2012, 04:31:48 PM »

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I appreciate the support but I tend to agree with the people that think I'm a bit of a bust and a jack of all trades, master of none

...oh wait, you are talking about Jeff GREEN

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Oh, I don't know.  I still see tons of potential in you.  Keep at it, young fella.
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