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Offline Jeff

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wait a minute, do we now have a potential backcourt of ...Jet Lee?

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wait a minute, do we now have a potential backcourt of ...Jet Lee?



News just in .. the team's moving to Asia to cash in on the signings!!

(I had an idea that the Warriors should target Rudy Gay and Kevin Love before they move back to San Francisco .. what?)
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I think the reason for excitement is pretty simple really...

Boston have been championship contenders since Ray and KG came over to form the big 3 in 2008.  That same year we won the title.

Every year since then, our starting lineup has been one of the most dominant in the league, but two things have held us Celtics back from getting that second title:

1. Injuries
2. Bench production

Since 2008 the only genuine sixth men (i.e. people who could actually lead the bench and produce) were Glen Davis and Jeff Green.

Glen Davis could give us much as a sixth man because he kept having to fill in the starting lineup for other injured guys (KG, Perkins, Shaq, JO).  Last year Jeff Green and Bass were supposed to be those guys, but Green was lost for the season along with JO, and Bass had to move to the starting lineup to replace JO - this left us with once again no scoring off the bench.

When Ray Allen was coming off the bench briefly last season, it was the first time in years that we had a legitimate 6th man who could put points on the board - then he got hurt, and now he's gone.  

Every season without fail, Boston's starters have had to drag their pensioner butts around the floor for excessive minutes trying to make up for the scoring drouts that occured every time the bench came in - and ultimately it was always out downfall.  

Now this year we added Terry and Green - two guys with the potential to give us 15-20 points on any given night. That was great, but it left us with two problems:

1. Uncertainty on when Bradley would return means Terry would have had to start, leaving us with again only one scorer (Green) off the bench until he returns

2. Given Boston's history with inuries, if one or both of those guys get hurt then we are back to square one - no scorer off the bench.

Courtney Lee is huge for us because he gives us that third guy as critical insurance.

1. He gives us a guy who can start at SG until Bradley returns, allowing us to continue to bring two strong scorers (Terry and Green) off the bench

2. He gives an extra scorer as insurance who can fill in if worse comes to worse and eiher Terry or Green gets hurt.

Worst case scenario, he gives us the type of insurance that could be the difference between a title and an early playoff exit.

Best case scenario he gives us a third consistent double figure scorer who can come off the bench and put points on the board.

How many teams in the league can honestly say that they have three legitimate double figure scorers coming off their bench? Not many...

Plus that's not even taking into account Sullinger (as he's unproven) and Wilcox (as we don't know what shape he's in).  

What it means is that when we are healthy Pierce, KG and even Rondo can take a breather while out second unit comes in and not only maintains, but actually extends out lead.

Then on top of all that, he gives us a bigger guard (whih we so depserately needed with Terry and Bradley at SG) who can defend bigger and stronger guards like Wade, Iguodala or Harden come playoff time.

All of this flexibility listed above all but vanishes without Lee - it all breaks down.  

So, that's why we are excited over a guy who is nowhere near as bigtime as out excitement levels may suggest.  It's not about who he is, it's about what he gives this team.

Take a look at the Heat for example, and the did the complete opposite. They picked up Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis - two big time veterans (or at least they once were), but two guys who only really have skills in three-point shooting...an area Miami already has covered with Miller, Battier, Chalmers and Jones.  They added plenty of fame, legacy and talent but it's all redundant - they didn't fill any of their big holes (PG, C).

We got a more or less 'under the radar' guy who fills exactly the hole we need filled.  That's something that's worth getting excited about!!

Offline Kuberski1

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Yes but.....Lee is not an over the hill guy who sat out most of a seasons before joining us.....far, far more important....this signing goes a long way with more than a few is us in assuaging the loss of Ray, which really, really stung us badly....

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looks official now

Offline CelticG1

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maybe I'm just oversimplifying, but...

Lee/Jet > Ray/Dooling ...right?

Ha kinda unfair that Dooling is on Rays team. Pretty big mismatch.

I would say that with Dooling we would be losing the great speeches and a motivator but Terry seems like he would fit right in with that role as well

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via Hollinger

https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/226352558694858752

"Hearing C Lee deal is more like 4.6M to start. Celtics paying Pavlovic's salary for Blazers and threw Portland a 2nd."
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Well, that makes it more expensive , but still a good deal.

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IFffffffffff we stay healthy, Green &Wilcox are totally well and AB returns 95% ... just MAYBE , we can hold a led while giving the starters a some good breaks.  futher more...

I see a plan ...maybe we don't have a WADE * James meaga stars on the team, but I think DA and Doc think maybe we can over power them with depth and youth by the end of a game. When James and Wade are out resting , we need a second team that can dominate and destroy their scrubs.   

Just wear the heck out of our opponents.  Keep putting decent players in and pressure the ball 48 minutes.

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via Hollinger

https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/226352558694858752

"Hearing C Lee deal is more like 4.6M to start. Celtics paying Pavlovic's salary for Blazers and threw Portland a 2nd."

Question: if teams can sign their own players, trade them and then pay the salary for the other team - doesn't this undermine the salary cap in a fairly major way?

Offline cdcd

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I'm guilty of being excited about Murphy. :-\
In an attempt to defend myself though, if I remember it correctly, he was choosing between Boston and Miami, and I was mostly just happy he didn't go with Miami.

Offline stylo617617

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for the 1st time since the kg era were going to have a bench who can actually put points on the board

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Question: if teams can sign their own players, trade them and then pay the salary for the other team - doesn't this undermine the salary cap in a fairly major way?

The other team still gets charged on the salary cap.  Boston can send them cash, but there is a limit ($3m, I believe) to how much cash a team can send out per year.
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Offline ScoobyDoo

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I second Budweisercelt's comments about it not being how "good" Lee is, but that he's exactly what the roster "needed".

Going into the season with  Lee / Bradley feels way better than hoping Bradley comes back strong at mid season, or whenever he does.

Just depth and another "quality" player in the rotation.

I think it's more relief than it is excitement about how "great" Lee is - at least that's how I feel. 

 

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Things are finally starting to shape up for another title run. People forget how essential Lee was to the Magic's run in 09. I think he's like Trevor Ariza was with the Lakers. He's a great role player who knows how to fill in gaps on a great team. He shores up our defense and we don't need him to create offensively, just make his shots which I think he will.

Him and Bradley would be a lot for any SG in the league to handle because they can guard big and small. I'm not even sure that Bradley will win his spot back when he does get healthy because: 1) he has some PG skills that might match up better with Terry off the bench and 2)Lee is more more stable.

I hope we can bring back Stiem and Pietrus but I think our team is solid, a true team. I don't see any weak links which is crazy. We might go 12 deep with proven players (and cross our fingers that Fab doesn't lose it in the D League and can develop for the future).

PG: Rondo/Bradley/Terry
SG: Lee/Bradley/Pietrus
SF: Pierce/Green/Pietrus/Joseph
PF: Bass/Wilcox/Sullinger/Green/KG
C: KG/Wilcox/Stiem/Melo

That's not the flashiest team on paper, but there are a lot of movable parts in there. We would be the deepest and most flexible team in the league.

Edit: Man, I forgot about Jeff Green! Joseph can keep Melo company in the D league.
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