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Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2012, 10:09:42 PM »

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This thread title is misleading.  Ray Allen's contract is either a one year or a three year contract.  Allen has the option to get out of it next summer. If he plays well, he can opt out and Miami can give him the full MLE next summer for the next two or more years.  

It's a cheesy way to give Allen the full MLE the final two years of his deal.  "Take the mMLE this summer and although we can't tell you this, we'll give you the full MLE the next two years after you opt out."

I'm not saying that anyone associated with the Heat would collude.  Although the top of their roster was built through collusion.  

Nope...the article specifically says it's a two year contract, and that the second year is a player option. Did you get different info?

I hope so, because this report makes no sense.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2012, 10:22:24 PM »

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This thread title is misleading.  Ray Allen's contract is either a one year or a three year contract.  Allen has the option to get out of it next summer. If he plays well, he can opt out and Miami can give him the full MLE next summer for the next two or more years. 

It's a cheesy way to give Allen the full MLE the final two years of his deal.  "Take the mMLE this summer and although we can't tell you this, we'll give you the full MLE the next two years after you opt out."

I'm not saying that anyone associated with the Heat would collude.  Although the top of their roster was built through collusion.   

It's an interesting theory, but I think it's likely that the Heat are above the apron next year as well, even if Mike Miller is amnestied.

I'm with you, I think they'll be over still, and I'd be very happy if they'd waste their resources on re-signing Allen to a full MLE, which leaves them with pretty much nothing to offer other free-agents beyond vet. min (I doubt they'll find space for also the bi-annual). That just be idiotic management in my opinion.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2012, 06:32:40 AM »

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So if Allen opts out, Heat can resign him with non-Bird exception at 3.6M which is 120% of previous contract. That's what the player option is about? Am I correct? Or Riley has other plans up his sleeves.  ???

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2012, 06:44:32 AM »

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Sorry to say, but Ray clearly gave up on the Celtics and there's no other explanation. Everyone has been used as trade bait except for KG (because of what he means to the team and his untradable contract). I don't see anyone else sulking about it.

Does winning a second or third ring as a role player really outweigh the legacy he would have had as a Celtic great had he just stayed here for the next 2 or 3 years? Maybe even pull off an upset with another ring at Boston (which given how things went in the past playoffs really isn't that farfetched of a possiblity) I just don't get it.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2012, 11:38:20 AM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
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Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2012, 11:40:36 AM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
Miami hasn't got fans that wanted him traded for the last 2+ years then get mad when he leaves on his own.
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Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2012, 02:44:36 PM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
Miami hasn't got fans that wanted him traded for the last 2+ years then get mad when he leaves on his own.
Outside their loyal core, I doubt Miami "fans" care about anything except Lebron.
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Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2012, 02:49:22 PM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
Miami hasn't got fans that wanted him traded for the last 2+ years then get mad when he leaves on his own.

  Most of the Heat fans didn't follow basketball between the time Shaq left and LeBron came. They may not have known who Ray was 2+ years ago.

 

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2012, 04:03:40 PM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
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We'll see:

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Source says that Ray Allen's meeting w/ the Heat went well. Miami said to be very intrigued by Allen's "intense hatred for Mario Chalmers."
https://twitter.com/rich_levine/

And Mario Chalmers can do many things Ray Allen can't, shoot 3's pretty well (including in the clutch), and he's the same age as Rondo.


Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2012, 04:11:53 PM »

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Why are you all torturing yourselves trying to get to the root of Ray's decision? 1 year, 2 years, or 8 years, he obviously just didn't want to be here anymore. and he's not.
Like a lot of people, I wish Ray stayed put. I was mad when it was confirmed that he chose the Heat. But now that's passed, and I'm not going to attack Ray's character, because he was a great great player and even greater guy while he was here. Now let's beat him.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2012, 04:12:08 PM »

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And Mario Chalmers can do many things Ray Allen can't, shoot 3's pretty well (including in the clutch), and he's the same age as Rondo.
Well, considering how much Chalmers gets yelled at by Wade and Lebron, that might work out better than expected.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2012, 05:12:52 PM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
Miami hasn't got fans that wanted him traded for the last 2+ years then get mad when he leaves on his own.
Outside their loyal core, I doubt Miami "fans" care about anything except Lebron.
I know some Miami fans. They've been fans for a long time. I'm not sure it's right for us to talk about other teams fans. I'm sure many people would point out that Boston didn't have as many fans right before KG.
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Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2012, 07:54:59 PM »

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And Mario Chalmers can do many things Ray Allen can't, shoot 3's pretty well (including in the clutch), and he's the same age as Rondo.
Well, considering how much Chalmers gets yelled at by Wade and Lebron, that might work out better than expected.

I saw Chalmers burn the Celtics many times with timely scores from quick drives to the basket that Ray is too slow to ever make, and they were often/mostly and one's. I frankly haven't seen or heard of any disrespect toward Chalmers from James or Wade.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2012, 08:14:48 PM »

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I saw Chalmers burn the Celtics many times with timely scores from quick drives to the basket that Ray is too slow to ever make, and they were often/mostly and one's. I frankly haven't seen or heard of any disrespect toward Chalmers from James or Wade.
Chalmers is legit, but when he makes a mistake he does often get taken to task by the Dueling Banjos.

Re: Ray Allen's Contract with Miami for Only 2 Years
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2012, 08:37:40 PM »

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Maybe he really just likes golfing and sandy beaches. There's really just no logical explanation as to why he would choose Mia over Boston. Is Rondo really that bad?
Logical reasons

1. Miami is a better team and will be going forward
2. Miami is warmer, nicer, etc. than Boston (esp. in the winter)
3. Miami has a more defined role for him
4. Miami didn't trade him
5. Miami doesn't have a player he clashes with
6. Miami has no state tax
7. Miami is a more fun team
Miami hasn't got fans that wanted him traded for the last 2+ years then get mad when he leaves on his own.
Outside their loyal core, I doubt Miami "fans" care about anything except Lebron.
I know some Miami fans. They've been fans for a long time. I'm not sure it's right for us to talk about other teams fans. I'm sure many people would point out that Boston didn't have as many fans right before KG.
I'm not speaking on those fans. They are just like us in many regards. But a lot of people on the Miami bandwagon have no respect for the history of that organization or basketball in general. Those folks are casual fans. Unfortunately the casuals are what drive business for the NBA.
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