Ray Allen's message in the Boston Globe

[nickagneta]

I have read a lot in this thread about people saying that Ray said this and publicly said that. All stuff that "thrrw the Celtics under the bus after leaving".

Can someone give me quotes and direct links to these things. I saw the Ray Allen presser in Miami and he said nothing but great things about Boston and the fans and organization and players. If anything he talked more about Boston and his sadness for leaving than his happiness about being a Heat player.

I've seen a lot of media speculation about things but nothing directly linked to Ray that makes him look like he's "throwing the team under the bus'. He said he needed to be a bit selfish and do what is in the best interest of him and his family. After that, I haven't seen one word from Ray that was bad.

[indeedproceed]

Can someone give me quotes and direct links to these things. I saw the Ray Allen presser in Miami and he said nothing but great things about Boston and the fans and organization and players. If anything he talked more about Boston and his sadness for leaving than his happiness about being a Heat player.

I've seen a lot of media speculation about things but nothing directly linked to Ray that makes him look like he's "throwing the team" under the bus. He said he needed to be a bit selfish and do what is in the best interest of him and his family. After that, I haven't seen one word from Ray that was bad.

Also a big problem I've had with the criticism in the thread. Words like 'spewing' and such. Ray has personally seemed to avoid the whole thing, and any direct quote, even the oft mentioned 'we'll see' comment, have been neutral to glowing about his time with the celtics

[rayallen1934]

Ray had a chance to retire a Celtic, in the good graces of the greatest fans of the greatest organization in the world. He threw that all away because his ego wouldn't let him get past the business side of the league. He felt slighted.

For a guy considered a consumate "professional" this strikes me as just the opposite. He came to us as a journeyman type player. He now will leave us and retire in the same mold. That's tragic for a player of his calibre but he made his own bed in this manner.

Enjoy your new "fans" in south beach ray ray. You reap what you sow.

Journeyman? Ray was the best player on 2 teams he played for
Bucks and Sonics, and made bigtime playoff runs.

Ray doesnt have to do what YOU WANT

He played hard for the Celtics, left it all on the court.

Too bad people like you wont appreciate it, but you will forever be bitter that he didnt sit the bench for your celtics in 2012-2013

[Loose Cannon]

People are just mad they can't use him as a scapegoat anymore. All of a sudden people are acting like they were such huge fans and supported him 100% when most Celtic fans bashed Ray all year and wanted Bradley to start.

This was a classy gesture by Ray. I give him props for saying positive things about people who've done nothing but call him Judas over the last week and a half.

[hwangjini_1]

Here it is:


It is absolutely a hollow gesture. Actions speak louder than words.

Dear Ray Allen,

Bite me.

Sincerely yours,

Boston

[davemonsterband]

I think most people are acting like a bunch of pansies over this. How did this great team come to fruition in the first place? A bunch of aging vets voluntarily and happily went to Boston to win a championship. Superstars, roll players, etc.

The fact of the matter is, everyone's heartbroken that Miami has become the new Boston for both championship potential and free agents. The year is 2008 and we are the Pistons or Spurs. It doesn't make it impossible, it makes it less likely.

Ray's a 3 mil a year guy, anyone wanting to pay him more than that at his age with those ankles is holding on to something that's time has come and gone. Anyone that's ever negotiated knows that it's always worth throwing out a stupid offer just in case someone bites.

His asking for 3 years for 27 million to play with a pain in the butt like Rondo is for him is fully logical because that's what it would take to play with him. There's no such thing as enough money nor is there such thing as enough money to work, travel and virtually live with someone you practically hate if the price isn't right. The $1000 computer we're all on right now compared to the dozens of homeless people we pass on the street daily without a concern in the world makes us equally or more greedy. People whining about someone else's financial matters is such a waste of time. He's not taking a pay cut, he's going to work with the most marketable guy in sports. There's no such thing as pay cut in Lebron's camp.

It's time to move forward, welcome in the new class and for Sully to rip his stupid head off. Why? Because he's a member of the Miami Heat. Not because he's resented for making a business decision. A personal problem with your point guard IS a business decision. Players are business assets and Rondo is his floor GENERAL, literally. I've been in the Navy, worked in business relationships, most of you sound like the kind of people that would want to stay with a woman/man just because they're a habit. Everyone needs an upgrade from time to time.

If Lebron isn't an upgrade I don't know who is.

The ad in the paper is irrelevant. What he says is irrelevant. Him leaving for Miami is irrelevant. Ray Allen is irrelevant. He's too old, too injury prone. He can't guard a barn door and the best player on the Celtics, and quite possibly our new MVP, is who matters more. Rondo for MVP, M-V-P, M-V-P, M-V-P!!! Move on. We should be cheering for the changing of the guard.

But, yes, it sucks, cause I love(d) the guy.

p.s. - if you just had to play on destroyed ankles, share touches and play with an erratic pg in a town that expects, fully, for you to play on those destroyed ankles, how excited would you be at his age? Be real.

[GreenFaith1819]

Here it is:


It is absolutely a hollow gesture. Actions speak louder than words.

Dear Ray Allen,

Bite me.

Sincerely yours,

SOME Boston Fans, not ALL Boston Fans

Fixed it for ya.

[Onslaught]

I think most people are acting like a bunch of pansies over this. How did this great team come to fruition in the first place? A bunch of aging vets voluntarily and happily went to Boston to win a championship. Superstars, roll players, etc.

The fact of the matter is, everyone's heartbroken that Miami has become the new Boston for both championship potential and free agents. The year is 2008 and we are the Pistons or Spurs. It doesn't make it impossible, it makes it less likely.

Ray's a 3 mil a year guy, anyone wanting to pay him more than that at his age with those ankles is holding on to something that's time has come and gone. Anyone that's ever negotiated knows that it's always worth throwing out a stupid offer just in case someone bites.

His asking for 3 years for 27 million to play with a pain in the butt like Rondo is for him is fully logical because that's what it would take to play with him. There's no such thing as enough money nor is there such thing as enough money to work, travel and virtually live with someone you practically hate if the price isn't right. The $1000 computer we're all on right now compared to the dozens of homeless people we pass on the street daily without a concern in the world makes us equally or more greedy. People whining about someone else's financial matters is such a waste of time. He's not taking a pay cut, he's going to work with the most marketable guy in sports. There's no such thing as pay cut in Lebron's camp.

It's time to move forward, welcome in the new class and for Sully to rip his stupid head off. Why? Because he's a member of the Miami Heat. Not because he's resented for making a business decision. A personal problem with your point guard IS a business decision. Players are business assets and Rondo is his floor GENERAL, literally. I've been in the Navy, worked in business relationships, most of you sound like the kind of people that would want to stay with a woman/man just because they're a habit. Everyone needs an upgrade from time to time.

If Lebron isn't an upgrade I don't know who is.

The ad in the paper is irrelevant. What he says is irrelevant. Him leaving for Miami is irrelevant. Ray Allen is irrelevant. He's too old, too injury prone. He can't guard a barn door and the best player on the Celtics, and quite possibly our new MVP, is who matters more. Rondo for MVP, M-V-P, M-V-P, M-V-P!!! Move on. We should be cheering for the changing of the guard.

But, yes, it sucks, cause I love(d) the guy.

p.s. - if you just had to play on destroyed ankles, share touches and play with an erratic pg in a town that expects, fully, for you to play on those destroyed ankles, how excited would you be at his age? Be real.

Very well said.

[CelticHooligan3]

Ray had a chance to retire a Celtic, in the good graces of the greatest fans of the greatest organization in the world. He threw that all away because his ego wouldn't let him get past the business side of the league. He felt slighted.

For a guy considered a consumate "professional" this strikes me as just the opposite. He came to us as a journeyman type player. He now will leave us and retire in the same mold. That's tragic for a player of his calibre but he made his own bed in this manner.

Enjoy your new "fans" in south beach ray ray. You reap what you sow.

Journeyman? Ray was the best player on 2 teams he played for
Bucks and Sonics, and made bigtime playoff runs.

Ray doesnt have to do what YOU WANT

He played hard for the Celtics, left it all on the court.

Too bad people like you wont appreciate it, but you will forever be bitter that he didnt sit the bench for your celtics in 2012-2013

A few things.. Where in what i said did i ever mention ray had to do what i want?

What part of NBA journeyman don't you get? You can be traded in this league or you can leave in free agency but if your constantly switching teams and allegiances your considered a journeyman. This will forever now be ray allen's legacy and one he wrote for himself. You might not like that fact. But still, it remains a FACT.

Your last line there clearly shows me your either a Heat fan or simply just follow ray allen to whatever team he plays for. What you fail to realize is some of us on this blog root for the name on the front of the jerseys not the back.

You use the word "team" as if you know what it means. But clearly both you and lil ray ray don't. Sometimes as a player when your abilities start to wane you suck up your pride and let the young guy start. Because he plays better defense, makes better cuts, and it's time for a new star to shine. Ray had too much pride to do this. And too much ego to accept KG not him was this franchises first option in free agency. I mean that's as clear as day just plain delusional if he thought he should take precedent over a man who not only anchors arguably the best defense in the league but embodies the personality spirit and heart of the franchise and its fans.

Furthermore when you have well respected vets like Jarrett Jack basically calling him a traitor and  Marcus Camby making such strong statements as to why he DIDN'T choose the heat ray ray looks even more petty and self centered.

So goodbye ray. Goodbye you. And enjoy those heatblogs. Im sure the quality of miami as an organization and its fanbase is on par with Boston and its STILL league leading 17 World Championships. Just remember Boston represents a City where the name on the front of the jersey represents a mindset and culture that embodies "ubuntu" and "team". Were old school up here. Individuals who are about themselves, their stats, and "their touches" belong down there in miami.

[kozlodoev]

What part of NBA journeyman don't you get? You can be traded in this league or you can leave in free agency but if your constantly switching teams and allegiances your considered a journeyman. This will forever now be ray allen's legacy and one he wrote for himself. You might not like that fact. But still, it remains a FACT.

Which part of that description does Ray Allen fit, again?

[Bankshot]

I appreciate all Ray did for us in 2008, but Ray is dead to me now. Hate to be a sore sport, but every time he is on tv now, I change the channel.

[CelticHooligan3]

What part of NBA journeyman don't you get? You can be traded in this league or you can leave in free agency but if your constantly switching teams and allegiances your considered a journeyman. This will forever now be ray allen's legacy and one he wrote for himself. You might not like that fact. But still, it remains a FACT.

Which part of that description does Ray Allen fit, again?

The point i was trying to make is he's bounced around from team to team in his career. He started on the bucks. Was traded to the sonics. Then was traded to the Celtics. It was in his hands whether he wanted to retire here and have his name always associated with this great organization. He chose on his own accord to move on to miami. That will forever tarnish his time here. He chose to be a mercenary in my eyes. He can no longer be associated with this club when it comes time for him to retire. He chose to leave. On a less lucrative contract, for very trivial reasons in my eyes. To me he ruined his own name and legacy in Celtics lore and how he will be remembered when he makes the Hall.

[Rondo2287]

What part of NBA journeyman don't you get? You can be traded in this league or you can leave in free agency but if your constantly switching teams and allegiances your considered a journeyman. This will forever now be ray allen's legacy and one he wrote for himself. You might not like that fact. But still, it remains a FACT.

Which part of that description does Ray Allen fit, again?

The point i was trying to make is he's bounced around from team to team in his career. He started on the bucks. Was traded to the sonics. Then was traded to the Celtics. It was in his hands whether he wanted to retire here and have his name always associated with this great organization. He chose on his own accord to move on to miami. That will forever tarnish his time here. He chose to be a mercenary in my eyes. He can no longer be associated with this club when it comes time for him to retire. He chose to leave. On a less lucrative contract, for very trivial reasons in my eyes. To me he ruined his own name and legacy in Celtics lore and how he will be remembered when he makes the Hall.

Ray Allen is not a Journeyman

7 years with the bucks
4 years with the sonics
5 years with the celtics

[bfrombleacher]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FRXPMb5WHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whKAx7hZ1Fw


Ray

[KP43]

This Ray hate needs to stop. I understand why people gets mad at him for leaving us for a rival.. But on the other hand, this is a decision that has a huge impact on someones LIFE. It's just not basketball and cash. He's a human being, with feelings and problems, and a family. He did what he felt was the best for him and his family, and he hasn't really said anything bad about us, dang this post is about a add in the Boston Globe. He is a good guy, and he had his reasons. Lets get over this, and look forward to see him again, and then crush the Heat.

I respect Ray for the player and person he is. I also respect his decision, even though im not a huge fan of it.

But seriously, move on.