The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated

[cman88]

how is comparing Moore to bradley anyways a good argument??

Bradley PROVED that he was a capable starting 2 guard for this team...so much so that Doc wanted ray to come off the bench

[rayallen1934]

how is comparing Moore to bradley anyways a good argument??

Bradley PROVED that he was a capable starting 2 guard for this team...so much so that Doc wanted ray to come off the bench

That wasnt comparing Moore to Bradley...

Im just saying people think crazy things like moore is a player than can play more than 2 minutes in a game

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Ianboyextreme, Mctyson - you both are picking and choosing, unfortunately.

Even with the games you both chose, AB has bad games...Stiem has a few great games...KG continues his tear, etc, etc, etc....

It's just NOT about AB...Look, I absolutely LOVE the kid...but BOS's just not about one player.........

During those games that each of you pick, pls look at the OTHER players' contributions....not just AB.

I don't think anyone ever said that Avery Bradley scored all of the points or was the only guy who played well.

But isn't the gist of the thread to attempt to show posters that there was no "clear-cut" player that started BOS's run? Or for that matter, a particular game?

I just believe that BOS's run started right after the ASB.

With that being said - I personally believe that Avery Bradley is "right-rated" as a player. I know there is no such word, but for the time being he has rcvd recognition from Wade and rcvd Defensive team votes.

The purpose of my posts (and others here) are to point out that there were significant contributions from other players post ASB - not just AB.

No the purpose of this thread was to tear down Bradley from a poster who is a huge Ray Allen fan to the point where the backlash has bothered him (and has posted about that fact a couple of times).

If you want to pump up what the rest of the team did post ASB I'm all for it, but that's not what this thread was ever about.

The purpose was to make a fair assesment of Bradley

you get tired of seeing people that think players like Moore deserve to be playing 30 minutes of game time...

as sad as it is, this is the case in celticsblog.

Ludicrous things like that.

Why is it that so many people exaggerate so much on here. Just b/c people thought Moore could do with a couple more mins here and there, does not mean they were saying he deserved anywhere close to 30mins a game! We stunk early in the season and were losing games upon games, it wasn't going to hurt letting Moore get a few mins a game instead of DNPs or garbage mins, we were losing anyway!

To the AB run being overrated... all I know for sure... even when PP and KG started playing better (KG was solid all season) we were still losing a lot before AB became the starter. Speculation here: If it had little to do with AB then why didn't Doc go back to Ray in the starting line-up? I mean KG and PP were playing so good, why not put Ray back in there? Why bring one of the greatest players off the bench? You can't say it's b/c Ray was injured b/c Ray was playing pretty much the same mins a healthy Ray would/did. AB's defense was huge for us getting off to great starts defensively and also b/c it let RR have the energy left to last throughout the game... it also let KG stick to his man and the paint more (or with Boshina), instead of worrying about looking out for Ray's lack of D!

I don't know what AB will give us from here on but I do know he was a very big part of why we got better... not b/c of what I saw but b/c of what Doc did and said (others said too... RR the leader).

[rayallen1934]

Ianboyextreme, Mctyson - you both are picking and choosing, unfortunately.

Even with the games you both chose, AB has bad games...Stiem has a few great games...KG continues his tear, etc, etc, etc....

It's just NOT about AB...Look, I absolutely LOVE the kid...but BOS's just not about one player.........

During those games that each of you pick, pls look at the OTHER players' contributions....not just AB.

I don't think anyone ever said that Avery Bradley scored all of the points or was the only guy who played well.

But isn't the gist of the thread to attempt to show posters that there was no "clear-cut" player that started BOS's run? Or for that matter, a particular game?

I just believe that BOS's run started right after the ASB.

With that being said - I personally believe that Avery Bradley is "right-rated" as a player. I know there is no such word, but for the time being he has rcvd recognition from Wade and rcvd Defensive team votes.

The purpose of my posts (and others here) are to point out that there were significant contributions from other players post ASB - not just AB.

No the purpose of this thread was to tear down Bradley from a poster who is a huge Ray Allen fan to the point where the backlash has bothered him (and has posted about that fact a couple of times).

If you want to pump up what the rest of the team did post ASB I'm all for it, but that's not what this thread was ever about.

The purpose was to make a fair assesment of Bradley

you get tired of seeing people that think players like Moore deserve to be playing 30 minutes of game time...

as sad as it is, this is the case in celticsblog.

Ludicrous things like that.

Why is it that so many people exaggerate so much on here. Just b/c people thought Moore could do with a couple more mins here and there, does not mean they were saying he deserved anywhere close to 30mins a game! We stunk early in the season and were losing games upon games, it wasn't going to hurt letting Moore get a few mins a game instead of DNPs or garbage mins, we were losing anyway!

To the AB run being overrated... all I know for sure... even when PP and KG started playing better (KG was solid all season) we were still losing a lot before AB became the starter. Speculation here: If it had little to do with AB then why didn't Doc go back to Ray in the starting line-up? I mean KG and PP were playing so good, why not put Ray back in there? Why bring one of the greatest players off the bench? You can't say it's b/c Ray was injured b/c Ray was playing pretty much the same mins a healthy Ray would/did. AB's defense was huge for us getting off to great starts defensively and also b/c it let RR have the energy left to last throughout the game... it also let KG stick to his man and the paint more (or with Boshina), instead of worrying about looking out for Ray's lack of D!

I don't know what AB will give us from here on but I do know he was a very big part of why we got better... not b/c of what I saw but b/c of what Doc did and said (others said too... RR the leader).

Ray was hurt


see people think im tearing apart Bradley starting when im not.

Only person who gets the point is Greenfaith or something like that.

Im only downplaying that 20-8 record

I know Bradley is good and i dont even have a problem with him starting, because your all right about his defensive presence.

BUT i still think he isnt that good of a starter, and definently not better than Ray over the season and playoffs (healthy ray)...I really dont. Bradley needs to prove much more than a run where he hit an amazing 3 point percentage and basically scored many baskets of cuts. I bet you anything that wont happen as much now that they know bradleys game.

Ive seen this happen to so many players. Im not gonna doubt bradley until i see him this year.

[cman88]

Im still not sure why everyone is soo surprised that Bradley could shoot and is doubting that he will be able to next year

This is his scouting report from 2010 from 2 different scouts

"Bradley's biggest asset offensively is his ability to shoot from the outside ... He can hit from a catch and shoot position, and looks beyond comfortable pulling up off the dribble ... His high release and strong elevation, along with his quick first step allow him to create just enough separation to get off a shot ..."

and

'He has one of the most pure jumpshots of anyone in his class … Gets off the ground quickly with great elevation, making his shot very difficult to contest … Shooting off the dribble is his forte, as he is always under control and well balanced … Defenders have to play up on him because of his shooting, which allows him to get into the lane "


bradley is going to be just fine next year when he comes back...he can defend, he can shoot, hes athletic.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Ianboyextreme, Mctyson - you both are picking and choosing, unfortunately.

Even with the games you both chose, AB has bad games...Stiem has a few great games...KG continues his tear, etc, etc, etc....

It's just NOT about AB...Look, I absolutely LOVE the kid...but BOS's just not about one player.........

During those games that each of you pick, pls look at the OTHER players' contributions....not just AB.

I don't think anyone ever said that Avery Bradley scored all of the points or was the only guy who played well.

But isn't the gist of the thread to attempt to show posters that there was no "clear-cut" player that started BOS's run? Or for that matter, a particular game?

I just believe that BOS's run started right after the ASB.

With that being said - I personally believe that Avery Bradley is "right-rated" as a player. I know there is no such word, but for the time being he has rcvd recognition from Wade and rcvd Defensive team votes.

The purpose of my posts (and others here) are to point out that there were significant contributions from other players post ASB - not just AB.

No the purpose of this thread was to tear down Bradley from a poster who is a huge Ray Allen fan to the point where the backlash has bothered him (and has posted about that fact a couple of times).

If you want to pump up what the rest of the team did post ASB I'm all for it, but that's not what this thread was ever about.

The purpose was to make a fair assesment of Bradley

you get tired of seeing people that think players like Moore deserve to be playing 30 minutes of game time...

as sad as it is, this is the case in celticsblog.

Ludicrous things like that.

Why is it that so many people exaggerate so much on here. Just b/c people thought Moore could do with a couple more mins here and there, does not mean they were saying he deserved anywhere close to 30mins a game! We stunk early in the season and were losing games upon games, it wasn't going to hurt letting Moore get a few mins a game instead of DNPs or garbage mins, we were losing anyway!

To the AB run being overrated... all I know for sure... even when PP and KG started playing better (KG was solid all season) we were still losing a lot before AB became the starter. Speculation here: If it had little to do with AB then why didn't Doc go back to Ray in the starting line-up? I mean KG and PP were playing so good, why not put Ray back in there? Why bring one of the greatest players off the bench? You can't say it's b/c Ray was injured b/c Ray was playing pretty much the same mins a healthy Ray would/did. AB's defense was huge for us getting off to great starts defensively and also b/c it let RR have the energy left to last throughout the game... it also let KG stick to his man and the paint more (or with Boshina), instead of worrying about looking out for Ray's lack of D!

I don't know what AB will give us from here on but I do know he was a very big part of why we got better... not b/c of what I saw but b/c of what Doc did and said (others said too... RR the leader).

Ray was hurt


see people think im tearing apart Bradley starting when im not.

Only person who gets the point is Greenfaith or something like that.

Im only downplaying that 20-8 record

I know Bradley is good and i dont even have a problem with him starting, because your all right about his defensive presence.

BUT i still think he isnt that good of a starter, and definently not better than Ray over the season and playoffs (healthy ray)...I really dont. Bradley needs to prove much more than a run where he hit an amazing 3 point percentage and basically scored many baskets of cuts. I bet you anything that wont happen as much now that they know bradleys game.

Ive seen this happen to so many players. Im not gonna doubt bradley until i see him this year.

 I know you keep insisting it was b/c Ray was injured but from Doc's mouth, he said he wanted to bring Ray off the bench the season before last but never had the right player that was capable of doing it. Ray wasn't injured the season b4 last. People keep saying it's b/c of the injury but keep ignoring that fact.