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The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« on: July 11, 2012, 08:44:02 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 08:48:14 PM »

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Cmon give Bradley some credit. He went from an unused player to the starting SG for this team. He litterally brought new life to this team with his Defense.
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Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 08:50:50 PM »

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I disagree. I think the drafting of Avery Bradley is right up there with the best moves Danny has made as GM. 

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 08:51:55 PM »

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Dude what are you talking about. That was the time of year where we played the heat 3 times, the Spurs, the Knicks, the Clippers, the Grizlies, the Hawks, etc.. By far the most difficult stretch of the season as was mentioned by Doc and the players many times.
Your statement is eronious on all accounts.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 08:52:56 PM »

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.

Seriously, what is your problem man. Ray is gone. You attack people who attack Ray. In multiple topics you have professed that "people on here dont know basketball" blah blah.

And then you come and start a thread attacking Ray's replacement for no reason. And if you do not think Avery's defense, athleticism, long term potential, attitude and effort are something to look forward to, why are you even on this board?

The kid can play, if you can't see his immediate value and his potential long term value - you my friend are the one who doesn't know basketball.

I truly hope you are actually Ray Allen because at this point any other explanation would is just unhealthy.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 08:54:30 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Dude what are you talking about. That was the time of year where we played the heat 3 times, the Spurs, the Knicks, the Clippers, the Grizlies, the Hawks, etc.. By far the most difficult stretch of the season as was mentioned by Doc and the players many times.
Your statement is eronious on all accounts.

The run started against the Washington Wizards on March 25th, check your facts.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 08:56:07 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.

Seriously, what is your problem man. Ray is gone. You attack people who attack Ray. In multiple topics you have professed that "people on here dont know basketball" blah blah.

And then you come and start a thread attacking Ray's replacement for no reason. And if you do not think Avery's defense, athleticism, long term potential, attitude and effort are something to look forward to, why are you even on this board?

The kid can play, if you can't see his immediate value and his potential long term value - you my friend are the one who doesn't know basketball.

I truly hope you are actually Ray Allen because at this point any other explanation would is just unhealthy.

I do not attack people on this board. When i voice my opinion I truly think its fact. Partly because im a ray allen fan.

What that does is allow me to go more in depth and see things that other Celtic fans dont see because all they see is GREEN.


Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 08:56:15 PM »

Offline Fafnir

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.
In the playoffs when he was on the court we also played a lot better than without him.

That was against Hawks/76ers squads who pushed the C's to 6/7 games respectively.

I don't think it was overrated, it was a great stretch of high level play. That doesn't mean he'll be able to do it again, or for a whole season.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 09:00:21 PM »

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.
You mean like the Heat twice?

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2012, 09:00:27 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.
In the playoffs when he was on the court we also played a lot better than without him.

That was against Hawks/76ers squads who pushed the C's to 6/7 games respectively.

I don't think it was overrated, it was a great stretch of high level play. That doesn't mean he'll be able to do it again, or for a whole season.


One of the reasons fans rave about is the 20-8 record......

when you look at it more in depth you see a lot of bad teams with the exception of Miami.

Then you look more into it and you see lots of good games by Garnett and Pierce.

These guys were almost worthless at the start of the season. Garnett failed to attempt a free throw in his first few games.

Pierce was shooting 30% in the first 20 games.

It was awful. And who gets the blame? Ray Allen ultimately gets the blame as he was benched.

Now do I think the Bradley starting experiment is a failure? NO, I think him starting and Ray coming off the bench was pretty good for the team. But I also think it would not matter if he didnt start either, as I still think Ray can play, and not get compared to Steve Novak and Shane Battier as most of the board thinks.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2012, 09:03:41 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Do people even look at the boxscores. Watching the game is one thing, but when you take a look at the teams they beat, the players who performed and the record. Then compare it to the beginning of the season, you will start to see the real reason why that 20-8 was overrated.
You mean like the Heat twice?


We also could have beat them game 2 of the season, the Heat had a healthy Dwayne Wade

Garnett had 13 points , but did not get to the line ONCE

Pierce did not play

Jermaine Oneal our starting center was 0-1

Sasha Pavlovic started and scored a whopping 5 points


If you can look at things at different perspectives, you can find different reasons.

but im not going to doubt that Bradley is a defensive stopper that can give Wade trouble.

This is a different topic.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 09:07:15 PM »

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Dude what are you talking about. That was the time of year where we played the heat 3 times, the Spurs, the Knicks, the Clippers, the Grizlies, the Hawks, etc.. By far the most difficult stretch of the season as was mentioned by Doc and the players many times.
Your statement is eronious on all accounts.

The run started against the Washington Wizards on March 25th, check your facts.
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Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 09:08:39 PM »

Offline GreenFaith1819

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Interesting topic!

One that I am currently investigating a bit.

While I believe that AB was certainly a "part" of that run, I am looking now to see just how much a "part" of thaty run he was.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 09:09:10 PM »

Offline bobthemarley

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We beat the Heat 3 times out of 4 this season, only the first game we lost, the 4th nobody was trying. Ray is gone, there's no point in showing Ray that we changed now that there's no going back. Just live with it and AB is not overrated.

Re: The Bradley 20-8 Run was overrated
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 09:12:53 PM »

Offline rayallen1934

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Interesting topic!

One that I am currently investigating a bit.

While I believe that AB was certainly a "part" of that run, I am looking now to see just how much a "part" of thaty run he was.


I like Bradley, fans will jump on me, for obvious reasons.

But why not just have a heated debate. It wont hurt.