Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)

[KG_ended_Bias]

Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

No, but he can help our scoring.  Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win.  Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.

If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake.  Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.

The bad part Roy is I think we coulda jumped in & stole Humpries for the full MLE. Boston is a better team than NJ & it's about all NJ can offer after all the contracts its picked up & dished out to freeagents. He would have been perfect here being he can give us 12-14 pts. & hual in in 14rebs. He plays physical & does dirty work like a center would. KG would have been ok playing center if he had a Humpries cleaning up the boards. Kind of disappointed Danny looked small ball before he exhausted all his avenues for a big. All we ever heard was Mayo, Crawford, Young,Terry. No McGee, Humpries & other bigs etc.

[BleedGreen1989]

so whats our cap look like now? we are over right so we can only sign our own or a sign and trade? vet min? BE?

We basically have a $74 million (or so) hard cap to work with now.

We can potentially sign somebody with the bi-annual exception (approximately $2 million per season).  Otherwise, yeah, it's bringing back our own guys and/or sign-and-trades and/or vet minimum contracts.

hmm not much our there for bigs if we're going that route next...would like to see Danny add a big not named brandon bass

[celticinorlando]

ok..if we miss on Ray...then who does Danny target?

[Fafnir]

We just got the best rebounder in the draft in Jared Sullinger.

Is Jared Sullinger some sort of alias for Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

Look up the percentages, best offensive and defensive rebounder in the draft.

*sigh* not this misleading statement again.

No he wasn't.

What someone said was "no drafted player had better offensive reb% and defensive reb%".

Which is a rather deceptive thing to say, basically they were saying that no one beat him in both categories who was drafted. The issue is that several players were better in a single category by enough of a margin for them to be better overall rebounders.

Thomas Robinson OReb% 11.1 DReb% 30.6 Reb% 21.4
Jared Sullinger OReb% 12.4 DReb% 23.9 Reb% 18.2

That's just one example, among players who were drafted were better rebounders were:

Thomas Robinson, Anthony Davis (tied him), Miles Plumlee, and Draymond Green

I wouldn't be shocked if there were more.

[Roy H.]

Big props to Wyc and Co. for okaying all these deals / offers.  If we bring back Green, Bass, Ray, and/or Krstic, we've pretty much locked ourselves into the luxury tax for the foreseeable future.

Educate me again on the particulars of the luxury tax Roy, if you don't mind.  I thought the Celts couldn't offer/use the full MLE if they went over the threshold of 74 million.  I realize that even 73 million is still over the cap, are there 2 levels of luxury tax, from the cap to 74, and then a higher rate over 74?

For this season, there aren't levels to the luxury tax.  It's a dollar-for-dollar penalty.  Next season, it becomes much more punitive, in $5 million increments.  It starts at $1.75 per dollar, then jumps at the $5 million mark, then again at $10 million, etc.

The $74 million affects whether teams can use the "full" MLE or not.  If a team uses over $3 million of its MLE in a season, it can't exceed $4 million over the luxury tax threshold under any circumstances, at any point.  The luxury tax line should be around $70 million, thus where the $74 million comes in.

It gets confusing, because the $3 million smaller MLE is called the "Taxpayers MLE".  However, we're going to likely be taxpayers, but still get to use the full MLE.  That's due to the $4 million "apron".

Tell me how I can make that clearer, because I probably garbled it.

[j804]

Big props to Wyc and Co. for okaying all these deals / offers.  If we bring back Green, Bass, Ray, and/or Krstic, we've pretty much locked ourselves into the luxury tax for the foreseeable future.

Does this mean we aren't going for the 74 mil or however much it was we were trying to spend, and will pay more for Ray and Bass?

It seems like ownership is really going at it all this year and putting all the eggs in the basket

[ManUp]

I think it only works if Ray gets his starting job back, bradley takes a cut in minutes, and Terry is happy with 20 minutes per game.

PG:Rondo (33) Terry(15)
SG:Allen(28) Bradley (15) Terry (5)

I'm not in love with the idea of the Bradley losing minutes, but If we're winning I'm for it. I have a heard time seeing Ray settle for less 30 minutes and Terry less than 25.

[CelticSooner]

Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

No, but he can help our scoring.  Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win.  Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.

If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake.  Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.

The bad part Roy is I think we coulda jumped in & stole Humpries for the full MLE. Boston is a better team than NJ & it's about all NJ can offer after all the contracts its picked up & dished out to freeagents. He would have been perfect here being he can give us 12-14 pts. & hual in in 14rebs. He plays physical & does dirty work like a center would. KG would have been ok playing center if he had a Humpries cleaning up the boards. Kind of disappointed Danny looked small ball before he exhausted all his avenues for a big. All we ever heard was Mayo, Crawford, Young,Terry. No McGee, Humpries & other bigs etc.

Humphries is going to make much more than MLE.

[Roy H.]

so whats our cap look like now? we are over right so we can only sign our own or a sign and trade? vet min? BE?

We basically have a $74 million (or so) hard cap to work with now.

We can potentially sign somebody with the bi-annual exception (approximately $2 million per season).  Otherwise, yeah, it's bringing back our own guys and/or sign-and-trades and/or vet minimum contracts.

hmm not much our there for bigs if we're going that route next...would like to see Danny add a big not named brandon bass

I think (hope) we're probably looking at Bass and Wilcox again.  I'd be fine with that.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

No, but he can help our scoring.  Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win.  Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.

If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake.  Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.

The bad part Roy is I think we coulda jumped in & stole Humpries for the full MLE. Boston is a better team than NJ & it's about all NJ can offer after all the contracts its picked up & dished out to freeagents. He would have been perfect here being he can give us 12-14 pts. & hual in in 14rebs. He plays physical & does dirty work like a center would. KG would have been ok playing center if he had a Humpries cleaning up the boards. Kind of disappointed Danny looked small ball before he exhausted all his avenues for a big. All we ever heard was Mayo, Crawford, Young,Terry. No McGee, Humpries & other bigs etc.

This thinking is so funny to me!!! How do you know he hasn't exhausted every big avenue he could?? Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean there weren't discussions!! Did you know about the Perk trade before it went down? Uh no, NO ONE did!

[sofutomygaha]

Look up the percentages, best offensive and defensive rebounder in the draft.

Even if you're going to disagree, he's the third best?  GREAT pick and a great rebounder.  That's the one thing Sully will do no question.

Total Rebound Percentage
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5.    Thomas Robinson-KS    21.4
15.    Miles Plumlee-DUKE    19.8

... Jared Sullinger 18.2

[celticinorlando]

if they can finish with Ray, Peaches, Bass, Wilcox and Steamer...then that is good enough to be right there to win it all

[CelticSooner]

ok..if we miss on Ray...then who does Danny target?

C's pretty much resign Green, Bass, and Pietrus.

[KCattheStripe]

We just got the best rebounder in the draft in Jared Sullinger.

Is Jared Sullinger some sort of alias for Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?

Look up the percentages, best offensive and defensive rebounder in the draft.

*sigh* not this misleading statement again.

No he wasn't.

What someone said was "no drafted player had better offensive reb% and defensive reb%".

Which is a rather deceptive thing to say, basically they were saying that no one beat him in both categories who was drafted. The issue is that several players were better in a single category by enough of a margin for them to be better overall rebounders.

Thomas Robinson OReb% 11.1 DReb% 30.6 Reb% 21.4
Jared Sullinger OReb% 12.4 DReb% 23.9 Reb% 18.2

That's just one example, among players who were drafted were better rebounders were:

Thomas Robinson, Anthony Davis (tied him), Miles Plumlee, and Draymond Green

I wouldn't be shocked if there were more.

That being said, I'd be surprised if Sully didn't help the rebounding.

[celticinorlando]

ok..if we miss on Ray...then who does Danny target?

C's pretty much resign Green, Bass, and Pietrus.

and another wing on the cheap IMO