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Quote from: KJ33 on July 03, 2012, 03:38:18 PMQuote from: KG_ended_Bias on July 03, 2012, 03:29:30 PM@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to pair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.I suspect that is why they want Ray back as well, because no, Terry isn't going to be asked to cover those guys much, that will be for Bradley, who has shown he can cover Wade, and perhaps Allen. As to the age question, that is another reason to get both Terry and Ray, since they are both advancing in age, they each have to do less and both should be fresher for the playoffs. I am actually more concerned about Ray than Terry though in terms of limiting his minutes. We all might think its best for a 37 yr old guard to play less, Doc and Danny may think so too, but I think Ray still wants to play 35 minutes a game. Also, like starting pitching, figuring out how everyone can get minutes in an 82 game season, discounts the almost certainty that someone will do down for any # of games. This kind of depth protects against any major dips if/when one of them is out.Ray Allen is 37 and can run run cirlces around pierce who is what 34?Ray Allen at 37 is different from any other 37 year old in the NBA
Quote from: KG_ended_Bias on July 03, 2012, 03:29:30 PM@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to pair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.I suspect that is why they want Ray back as well, because no, Terry isn't going to be asked to cover those guys much, that will be for Bradley, who has shown he can cover Wade, and perhaps Allen. As to the age question, that is another reason to get both Terry and Ray, since they are both advancing in age, they each have to do less and both should be fresher for the playoffs. I am actually more concerned about Ray than Terry though in terms of limiting his minutes. We all might think its best for a 37 yr old guard to play less, Doc and Danny may think so too, but I think Ray still wants to play 35 minutes a game. Also, like starting pitching, figuring out how everyone can get minutes in an 82 game season, discounts the almost certainty that someone will do down for any # of games. This kind of depth protects against any major dips if/when one of them is out.
@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to pair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.
Wow, Terry is 34. Oh and only two months away from being 35. A 35, 36, 37 year old undersized two guard. Next three years.
Quote from: Roy H. on July 03, 2012, 03:45:08 PMQuote from: KG_ended_Bias on July 03, 2012, 03:38:53 PM Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.No, but he can help our scoring. Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win. Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake. Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.I'd prefer Terry to Kaman. Kaman isn't a very good rebounder or an efficient scorer. Plus he's a plodder and we desparately need quickness in the frontcourt as much as rebounding.I don't think Humphries goes for 5 million per year.
Quote from: KG_ended_Bias on July 03, 2012, 03:38:53 PM Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.No, but he can help our scoring. Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win. Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake. Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.
Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.
We just got the best rebounder in the draft in Jared Sullinger.
Quote from: Who on July 03, 2012, 03:48:12 PMWow, Terry is 34. Oh and only two months away from being 35. A 35, 36, 37 year old undersized two guard. Next three years. looking like 3 years from now is when Danny is going to rebuild and go after those free agents
Quote from: Fafnir on July 03, 2012, 03:46:19 PMQuote from: Roy H. on July 03, 2012, 03:45:08 PMQuote from: KG_ended_Bias on July 03, 2012, 03:38:53 PM Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.No, but he can help our scoring. Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win. Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake. Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.I'd prefer Terry to Kaman. Kaman isn't a very good rebounder or an efficient scorer. Plus he's a plodder and we desparately need quickness in the frontcourt as much as rebounding.I don't think Humphries goes for 5 million per year.I don't think there's any way that either goes for $5 million per season.Assuming we get Ray back, I'd prefer Kaman to Terry, but 1) beauty is in the eye of the beholder; and 2) it's a moot point.
Quote from: Snakehead on July 03, 2012, 03:47:17 PMWe just got the best rebounder in the draft in Jared Sullinger.Is Jared Sullinger some sort of alias for Anthony Davis or Thomas Robinson?
I'm pumped, but 3 years is kinda dumb.
Big props to Wyc and Co. for okaying all these deals / offers. If we bring back Green, Bass, Ray, and/or Krstic, we've pretty much locked ourselves into the luxury tax for the foreseeable future.