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Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2012, 03:42:52 PM »

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A bench consisting of Terry, Ray Allen and Jeff Green can score 20 pts easily, maybe even 30. Thats a big upgrade from last year. It's a bench that we can rely on for scoring.

I actually think Green, if he doesn't have much rust, should start over Pierce. Pierce likes to go a lot of iso and can do it much more effectively going up against second team guys. Plus, I think Pierce and Terry could be especially deadly on high pick and pops. Think how good Pierce and House were in these plays. I also think Green needs someone to set him up and would be much better starting and having Rondo giving him easy looks.


Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #151 on: July 03, 2012, 03:43:45 PM »

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Can't say I'm thrilled about this.  I have a hard time seeing enough time for Rondo/Bradley/Terry/Allen.  Allen might very well be gone.

Ray might be gone anyway; it certainly looked that way at the end of this season.  This looks like Danny hedging his bets - we have a guy to step into (most of) Ray's role if he leaves, and tremendous guard depth if he doesn't.  Either way I don't think this makes a major difference in Ray's decision.

The real guy who should be sweating right now is E'Twaun Moore.  He's running out of role to fill in a hurry.

The more I crunch the numbers the more I think Ray's gone. There's just not enough minutes. I think Ainge saying he wanted to bring on both was his way of saving face in negotiations with Ray if Terry fell through.

I think we're hoping for a sign and trade opportunity, and I'm not sure it'll be there.
I think there are enough minutes for everyone, just that Terry/Allen would both signing up for a diminshed role based on what they did last year.

Ray's 37, cutting down his minutes would probably be for the best anyways.

He might still go, but it can work.

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #152 on: July 03, 2012, 03:44:12 PM »

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@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to pair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.

I suspect that is why they want Ray back as well, because no, Terry isn't going to be asked to cover those guys much, that will be for Bradley, who has shown he can cover Wade, and perhaps Allen.  As to the age question, that is another reason to get both Terry and Ray, since they are both advancing in age, they each have to do less and both should be fresher for the playoffs. 

I am actually more concerned about Ray than Terry though in terms of limiting his minutes.  We all might think its best for a 37 yr old guard to play less, Doc and Danny may think so too, but I think Ray still wants to play 35 minutes a game.  Also, like starting pitching, figuring out how everyone can get minutes in an 82 game season, discounts the almost certainty that someone will do down for any # of games.  This kind of depth protects against any major dips if/when one of them is out.


Ray Allen is 37 and can run run cirlces around pierce who is what 34?

Ray Allen at 37 is different from any other 37 year old in the NBA

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #153 on: July 03, 2012, 03:44:20 PM »

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I can't possibly see Ray coming back at this point.  Personally, I'm hoping he doesn't.  We simply don't need that many guards looking for big minutes.  Sign Pietrus and Dooling on the cheap to mop up whatever minutes are left over or to fill in in case of injuries.  

If Jet is really on board and cleared for take off, let's turn our attention to the big man situation.  
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Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #154 on: July 03, 2012, 03:45:08 PM »

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Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

No, but he can help our scoring.  Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win.  Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.

If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake.  Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.


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Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #155 on: July 03, 2012, 03:45:52 PM »

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Assuming the Celtics bring back Ray Allen the Celtics will have 3 of the top 9 3 point shooters of all time.

Ray Allen #1
Jason Terry #4
Paul Pierce #9

I think the way we can beat the Heat and other contenders is with perimeter shooting since we aren't athletic enough to keep up with them.

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #156 on: July 03, 2012, 03:45:54 PM »

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A bench consisting of Terry, Ray Allen and Jeff Green can score 20 pts easily, maybe even 30. Thats a big upgrade from last year. It's a bench that we can rely on for scoring.

I actually think Green, if he doesn't have much rust, should start over Pierce. Pierce likes to go a lot of iso and can do it much more effectively going up against second team guys. Plus, I think Pierce and Terry could be especially deadly on high pick and pops. Think how good Pierce and House were in these plays. I also think Green needs someone to set him up and would be much better starting and having Rondo giving him easy looks.

No. No, no, no, no, no.

While it might be nice to stagger Pierce and Rondo at times, I don't like Pierce coming off the bench. I'd just work on getting Rondo his rest while Pierce is in the game.

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #157 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:19 PM »

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Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

No, but he can help our scoring.  Add Jason Terry in the fourth quarter of Game 7 against Miami, and we win.  Long scoring droughts should be a thing of the past.

If guys like Kris Humphries or Chris Kaman ultimately take the mid-level, I'll agree that this was a mistake.  Barring that, I think we need to upgrade where we can.
I'd prefer Terry to Kaman. Kaman isn't a very good rebounder or an efficient scorer. Plus he's a plodder and we desparately need quickness in the frontcourt as much as rebounding.

I don't think Humphries goes for 5 million per year.

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #158 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:28 PM »

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yes the bench will be MUCH better offensively...but Danny knows to get to the title he needs to be able to defend lebron and durant. ...load up on SF and athletic wings..

boston is going to be so much better defensively....Melo might not be a factor on offense but he can defend the rim...green and a HEALTHY peaches are 2 pretty good wing defenders...i hope kris joseph turns into another one


i think green, sully, melo will help rebounding..now we need to get ray back. he is a real weapon as a scoring SG

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« Reply #159 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:34 PM »

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I'm pumped, but 3 years is kinda dumb.

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #160 on: July 03, 2012, 03:46:53 PM »

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I'm happy with this especially since he would be a great scoring option off the bench, but I also hope they can keep Ray.
If Danny can somehow get this and keep Ray...

Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #161 on: July 03, 2012, 03:47:17 PM »

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play JET at the point and ray at the 2 off the bench..

And Ray can play 3 and Green can play 4 on a small lineup so plenty of flexibility off the bench, which I love.

@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to oair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.

C'mon dude with the Scal comment.  On a serious note don't belittle Terry he's the 3rd biggest contributor to Dallas' championship.

We've seen Avery guard Wade plenty well, the best among the SG's you mentioned.  I'm not worried.  You're picking apart a back up here.
that's. Sort of the point I was yet to make, we use the MLE on a position we are just duplicating. We should went & bought the best Center or PF/C we could find with the MLE. I agree with a earlier poster who said it's a improper allocation of funds! Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

We just got the best rebounder in the draft in Jared Sullinger.

You aren't going to get a good big right now for the MLE.  Have you seen any of the contracts being handed out?

Our biggest need was not rebounding but scoring.  With another scorer we get over the hump IMO.
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Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #162 on: July 03, 2012, 03:47:33 PM »

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play JET at the point and ray at the 2 off the bench..

And Ray can play 3 and Green can play 4 on a small lineup so plenty of flexibility off the bench, which I love.

@Roy.... Scalabrine has championship pedigree & I'm not clamoring to get him back. We need youth & athleticism & size to oair with the old dogs, not just another old dog! I know Jet can ball no doubt but it's a weird fit here being Bradley already isn't a prototypical SG himself. If he is our backup PG im ok with that, but can he guard the Wade's & Kobe's & Harden's? Because we are gonna need that from him.

C'mon dude with the Scal comment.  On a serious note don't belittle Terry he's the 3rd biggest contributor to Dallas' championship.

We've seen Avery guard Wade plenty well, the best among the SG's you mentioned.  I'm not worried.  You're picking apart a back up here.
that's. Sort of the point I was yet to make, we use the MLE on a position we are just duplicating. We should went & bought the best Center or PF/C we could find with the MLE. I agree with a earlier poster who said it's a improper allocation of funds! Last I checked Jason Terry couldn't help correct our rebounding woes.

Because you guys are with DA and know there are those supposed bigs out there waiting to sign....

Just because we have the MLE to spend doesn't mean a big we would want was willing to take it!

I can't see how anyone would think that if we could afford Kaman or Camby with the MLE that DA wouldn't have tried to get them!

After Kaman and Camby, what bigs do you think we could get that would be better than picking up JET (again, a big that we could get with the MLE)?!!
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Re: Celtics Sign Jason Terry (Multiple Reports)
« Reply #163 on: July 03, 2012, 03:47:51 PM »

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I think there are enough minutes for everyone, just that Terry/Allen would both signing up for a diminshed role based on what they did last year.

Ray's 37, cutting down his minutes would probably be for the best anyways.

He might still go, but it can work.

The way I see it he'd have to expect 20 minutes a game, and an increasingly likely chance that he'll neither start nor end games.

Any cap experts know if we'd be able to amnesty Terry in year 3 if we hadn't used it at that point? I'd have to think not.

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« Reply #164 on: July 03, 2012, 03:47:58 PM »

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I can't possibly see Ray coming back at this point.  Personally, I'm hoping he doesn't.  We simply don't need that many guards looking for big minutes.  Sign Pietrus and Dooling on the cheap to mop up whatever minutes are left over or to fill in in case of injuries.  

If Jet is really on board and cleared for take off, let's turn our attention to the big man situation.  


Now that Terry is on board we've pretty much priced ourselves out of the remaining "good" big men.  At this point Danny should make a hard run at Ray and look to bring Wilcox & Peaches back.

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