Ray or Mayo

[SHAQATTACK]

Hold the .. Mayo

, lett-us have  Ray .

[2dark]

Mayo doesn't want to play here and I don't want him here. On the other hand Ray was our best player (RR too butthurt from CP3 trade talks and was incosistent to the point of screaming) early on in the season while Pierce was still losing summer baby fat and KG was suprised there was a season to play.

 He averaged nearly 20ppg until the game ag the Nets when some european guy (Vesely?) triped him twice during the game comming off screen to the point Doc said in post game presser "It looked as they sent him out to get him".

He missed few games then, came back but seemed out of his usual rythm (that was maybe 10ish or so games in the season, those 2 orlando wins a blowout and a 30 pt comeback for those who remember, that he missed) and PP and KG together with rondo finally got into game shape.

He fought with ankles until finally siting down when he reaggrivated it (meaning he was still hurt, not freshly injured) near the end of season.

I really hate to say it as his big fan, but when he is healthy he is still top10 SG in the league, and would be top5 in a system that suits shooters (ugh...Miami), but what worries he s that he is too stuborn to call it quits for a while when hurt. That cost us 18# in 2010 when he couldn't hit a gym cause of Meta world artests knee in the thigh, but kept playing and fireing away.

Limited minutes and with Gods luck of avoiding injuries I d rather have Ray that Mayo and Tony Allen combined, but if injured again...idk its a gamble.

[kozlodoev]

Mayo doesn't want to play here and I don't want him here. On the other hand Ray was our best player (RR too butthurt from CP3 trade talks and was incosistent to the point of screaming) early on in the season while Pierce was still losing summer baby fat and KG was suprised there was a season to play.

Apparently, Allen doesn't want to play here either, so you can flush that argument down the toilet

[2dark]

Mayo doesn't want to play here and I don't want him here. On the other hand Ray was our best player (RR too butthurt from CP3 trade talks and was incosistent to the point of screaming) early on in the season while Pierce was still losing summer baby fat and KG was suprised there was a season to play.

Apparently, Allen doesn't want to play here either, so you can flush that argument down the toilet

http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Mayo-on-Celtics-I-dont-care-about-the-ba?%20blockID=692434&feedID=10424
You give me link where Ray Allen says he doesn 't wont to come back and I ll tattoo LeBron on my.. shoulder:P

[kozlodoev]

Mayo doesn't want to play here and I don't want him here. On the other hand Ray was our best player (RR too butthurt from CP3 trade talks and was incosistent to the point of screaming) early on in the season while Pierce was still losing summer baby fat and KG was suprised there was a season to play.

Apparently, Allen doesn't want to play here either, so you can flush that argument down the toilet

http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Mayo-on-Celtics-I-dont-care-about-the-ba?%20blockID=692434&feedID=10424
You give me link where Ray Allen says he doesn 't wont to come back and I ll tattoo LeBron on my.. shoulder:P

I don't see what an article from mid-April in which Ray Allen is absent altogether has to do with the his widely publicized rift with Rondo.

Just for the record, two years ago, it took Ray until July 7th to resign with the Celtics -- want to bet that all we'll be talking about next Sunday is which _other_ teams are in the hunt for him?

[2dark]

Article was making a point how much Mayo  wants to play here, I'm just strucken at the Ray Allen bashing lately.
I politely asked for your sources in statement that he doesn't want to be here as well? That is what a 6 months old article has to do with it.
Listening to offers and trying to raise your stocks is OK in my eyes, specially when being traded few months back.

[kozlodoev]

Article was making a point how much Mayo  wants to play here, I'm just strucken at the Ray Allen bashing lately.
I politely asked for your sources in statement that he doesn't want to be here as well? That is what a 6 months old article has to do with it.
Listening to offers and trying to raise your stocks is OK in my eyes, specially when being traded few months back.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2012/6/12/3079646/ray-allen-set-for-surgery-may-have-had-friction-with-rondo

[colincb]

I say Mayo because Ray is to old and if we pass on a young 24 year old great offensive player that can learn how to play defense easily, if you sign Ray over Mayo, then u get an old great offensive player who has only 1 or 2 years left in him.

I would rather take Mayo because he still has a long career ahead of him!

What do you guys think?

I think you need to reconsider your opinion that Mayo is a great offensive player.  He's yet to have a PER of 15 during his career and Ray on a bad ankle beat him by a sliver this year during the regular season. Mayo in this year's playoffs had the third worst NBA efficiency for players with 20+ mpg per game.

OJ Mayo Career PER
Regular season 14.1
Playoffs 11.0

Ray Allen Career PER
Regular season 19.0
Playoffs 16.9

Memphis is letting him walk without a qualify offer as a RFA because they're afraid he'd take it.

Those numbers are awfully misused there considering Ray is not going to be the player going forward that he was in his prime when posting a higher PER and OJ Mayo will be soon entering his prime so we should expect to start posting higher PERs than he has thus far in his career.

Based on what?

Mayo's PERs
2008 - 14.2
2009 - 14.6
2010 - 12.6 (12.7 playoffs)
2011 - 14.7 (7.7 playoffs)

A PER of 15 is suppose to be average.  Basketball-Reference.com has his 4 year career path having the highest similarity to Vinny DelNegro, Darwin Cook, Larry Miller, and Jim McElroy.  Immortals all.

The Grizzlies who are letting Mayo walk without making a qualifying offer and they reportedly plan to pursue Ray Allen.

[2dark]

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2012/06/dont_give_ray_allen_his_new_mi.html

If there is a reporter I consider valid its Jackie, and she said that there was some friction with Rondo and I belive it. Still he didn't say nothing even remotely close to him leaving, and I hate that it is enough that LeBrick tweets it and some reports about who wants him to people to consider him gone and/or start hating him.

HALF of NBA is after a guy that is too bad to play for us. Grass is always greener on other side I guess, but don't imply he is gone please.

NBA.tv right now talking about him having a starting job waiting in heat uniform... that idiots are the same people starting all the other "rumors" too:/

[SCBirdman]

Ray

pass the OJ. Ray is past his expiration date.

[cman88]

they just said on NBAtv(and espn) that the Celtics are going to make a run at mayo(and that allen is basically going to Miami)


where theres smoke, theres fire I guess...danny really seems to like OJ mayo..maybe he feels theres some untapped potential there. the guy was a 18ppg scorer his rookie year

Rondo
AB/Mayo

our guard rotation could be set for the next 5 years or so..

[ballerbt]

Mayo doesn't want to play here and I don't want him here.

Ya he wants to play with rondo and ray doesnt want to play here.

[ballerbt]

Ray

pass the OJ. Ray is past his expiration date.

hahaha i agree

[celticinorlando]

Neither....give me josh smith or jamaal Crawford

[ballerbt]

they just said on NBAtv(and espn) that the Celtics are going to make a run at mayo(and that allen is basically going to Miami)


where theres smoke, theres fire I guess...danny really seems to like OJ mayo..maybe he feels theres some untapped potential there. the guy was a 18ppg scorer his rookie year

Rondo
AB/Mayo

our guard rotation could be set for the next 5 years or so..



Ya in 2010 mayo said that if there was one point guard he would want to play with, it would be rondo.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1242643-nba-free-agency-five-moves-boston-should-make-after-kg-return/page/2

i agree with this article