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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2012, 07:59:54 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 

Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2012, 08:19:29 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2012, 08:22:11 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.

The only reason Garnett doesn't like playing center is because he doesn't like being a bruiser, or going against bruisers. It takes a huge toll on your body says he. It's not semantics, it's old bones.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2012, 08:26:16 PM »

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I like Green and want him back, but my number 1 priority is getting a real center to slide KG back over to the 4.  Melo might be something down the line, but not this year.  DA said as much with a comment that he expected only 1 of the draft picks to contribute this year, and I can't imagine he meant anyone other than Sullinger with that comment.

I hope we go strong after Hibbert, who happens to have been Green's classmate at Georgetown, and shares the same agent (who DA seems to have a solid relationship with.) Maybe give Green a 1-year deal to prove he's healthy to earn a big contract in 2013 (hopefully from us, maybe from elsewhere.)
KG is not playing PF. That ship sailed midseason last year.

I'm not so sure. Garnett has expressed repeatedly that he hates playing the 5 and prefers the 4. I want him to play the 5. Anyone who payed attention to the celtics last season wants him at the 5. Doc wants him at the 5. But will he play the 5? Only time will tell.
He played the 5 last year :P The reason for that being a combination of: (1) Doc doesn't really care about hurting his players' feelings by asking them to do stuff they don't like, if it's best for the team, and (2) Garnett having too much pride not to give his all no matter where they put him on the court.

I see no reason why it wouldn't happen again this year (and the two years after that). Especially if the alternative is fielding some vet min guy to be the "center".
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2012, 08:29:27 PM »

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I like Green and want him back, but my number 1 priority is getting a real center to slide KG back over to the 4.  Melo might be something down the line, but not this year.  DA said as much with a comment that he expected only 1 of the draft picks to contribute this year, and I can't imagine he meant anyone other than Sullinger with that comment.

I hope we go strong after Hibbert, who happens to have been Green's classmate at Georgetown, and shares the same agent (who DA seems to have a solid relationship with.) Maybe give Green a 1-year deal to prove he's healthy to earn a big contract in 2013 (hopefully from us, maybe from elsewhere.)
KG is not playing PF. That ship sailed midseason last year.

I'm not so sure. Garnett has expressed repeatedly that he hates playing the 5 and prefers the 4. I want him to play the 5. Anyone who payed attention to the celtics last season wants him at the 5. Doc wants him at the 5. But will he play the 5? Only time will tell.
He played the 5 last year :P The reason for that being a combination of: (1) Doc doesn't really care about hurting his players' feelings by asking them to do stuff they don't like, if it's best for the team, and (2) Garnett having too much pride not to give his all no matter where they put him on the court.

I see no reason why it wouldn't happen again this year (and the two years after that). Especially if the alternative is fielding some vet min guy to be the "center".


What Garnett wants, Garnett gets. That's what it comes down to. If he absolutely has to play center then he will, he's not a jerk. But he prefers not to.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2012, 08:47:52 PM »

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What Garnett wants, Garnett gets. That's what it comes down to. If he absolutely has to play center then he will, he's not a jerk. But he prefers not to.
Garnett wants to win. So it's quite apparent to me that he's playing C for the rest of his career.  ;D
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2012, 08:52:09 PM »

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What Garnett wants, Garnett gets. That's what it comes down to. If he absolutely has to play center then he will, he's not a jerk. But he prefers not to.
Garnett wants to win. So it's quite apparent to me that he's playing C for the rest of his career.  ;D

To be completely truthful, NOBODY knows what goes on in that crazy ol head of his, not even him. He's just a weird guy with a weird thought process.

Anyone who gets on all fours and barks at players during a game is pretty prettyyy prettyyy hard to speculate on.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2012, 10:25:50 PM »

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All the quotes I heard about KG hating to play the four came in the early spring just after he had recently been officially asked to play at that position much more full time. 

I wonder if he still feels as strongly about that now that he just finished one of the most awe inspiring stints of his career, or anyone else's career really, playing as a center.  His run through the second half of the season and the playoffs was legendary.

I'd put it like this to Kevin; "I understand your attachment to being considered a power forward.  You more or less single handedly revolutionized the position.  That trend of the long, athletic, agile, quick, skilled power forward, you are the prototype.  That will be a big part of your legacy.  That won't be forgotten.  Now you have a perfect opportunity to add something new to that legacy.  The history books will be able to add a chapter, saying; 'in his mid thirties, Kevin Garnett, one of the greatest power forwards to ever play the game, switched to the center position, and dominated there for a 3 and a half year stretch until he retired at close to 40 years of age.'"

I want Kevin Garnett to be our center for the next three years. 
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2012, 10:28:21 PM »

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Signing green is vital. We have nobody behind pierce that is athletic like him

Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2012, 10:47:03 PM »

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Signing green is vital. We have nobody behind pierce that is athletic like him

Except for Kris Joseph.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2012, 10:48:47 PM »

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Signing green is vital. We have nobody behind pierce that is athletic like him

Except for Kris Joseph.

Kris Joseph is going to spend most the season in the d league. He is not a legit option at sf

Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2012, 11:11:15 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.

The only reason Garnett doesn't like playing center is because he doesn't like being a bruiser, or going against bruisers. It takes a huge toll on your body says he. It's not semantics, it's old bones.
Sorry I must disagree. KG doesnt want to be a center, I get that. KG doesnt want to be known as a center or called a center. Doesnt mean he doesnt still play center and has for many years in certain situations.

My point was that every player during every game has to switch or rotate defensively for matchups. KG knows this and does it without complaint. An example is a couple of years ago against the Cavs. He checked big Z while Perk took on Gooden for most of the game. Doesnt mean he was a center but he was guarding a center because Z would shoot over Perk everytime he was matched up.

There are plenty of examples of this to make my point. KG is the best defender and longest guy on the court for his team most of the time. That matches him up against the center in many situations.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2012, 11:17:25 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.

The only reason Garnett doesn't like playing center is because he doesn't like being a bruiser, or going against bruisers. It takes a huge toll on your body says he. It's not semantics, it's old bones.
Sorry I must disagree. KG doesnt want to be a center, I get that. KG doesnt want to be known as a center or called a center. Doesnt mean he doesnt still play center and has for many years in certain situations.

My point was that every player during every game has to switch or rotate defensively for matchups. KG knows this and does it without complaint. An example is a couple of years ago against the Cavs. He checked big Z while Perk took on Gooden for most of the game. Doesnt mean he was a center but he was guarding a center because Z would shoot over Perk everytime he was matched up.

There are plenty of examples of this to make my point. KG is the best defender and longest guy on the court for his team most of the time. That matches him up against the center in many situations.

Doesn't mean he enjoys it. Garnett will do whatever Doc asks, but he's said himself it takes a toll on his body and he doesn't like the positions itself, not the name. That's just ridiculous that he doesn't wanna be a center just because of the label. He doesn't care, he just wants to win.
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Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2012, 11:20:06 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.

The only reason Garnett doesn't like playing center is because he doesn't like being a bruiser, or going against bruisers. It takes a huge toll on your body says he. It's not semantics, it's old bones.
Sorry I must disagree. KG doesnt want to be a center, I get that. KG doesnt want to be known as a center or called a center. Doesnt mean he doesnt still play center and has for many years in certain situations.

My point was that every player during every game has to switch or rotate defensively for matchups. KG knows this and does it without complaint. An example is a couple of years ago against the Cavs. He checked big Z while Perk took on Gooden for most of the game. Doesnt mean he was a center but he was guarding a center because Z would shoot over Perk everytime he was matched up.

There are plenty of examples of this to make my point. KG is the best defender and longest guy on the court for his team most of the time. That matches him up against the center in many situations.

Why doesn't Doc just tell KG that this year they are running a two PF line up?

Re: Jeff Green back playing 5v5, still favors Celtics
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2012, 11:21:55 PM »

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KG probally won't be our starting center, thats why Danny is looking for Centers. 

He doesn't want to be a center , full time anyway. I don't expect him to play anywhere near as much center , unless he has too .

 
Its all just semantics.

KG will start games as a PF and cover centers for large portions of the game as matchups dictate. IMO the key is that when we play a team with a true center then the Celtics have a couple of legit bigs to bring out for matchups.

The real worry IMO is that KG had zero help on the boards. Danny needs to find and add several real live rebounding bigs to adress this shortfall if we want a better end to next season.

This addition is of course including our recently added draft picks, an improved contributing JJJ, a healthy Green, a healthy Bradley and a resigned KG.

The only reason Garnett doesn't like playing center is because he doesn't like being a bruiser, or going against bruisers. It takes a huge toll on your body says he. It's not semantics, it's old bones.
Sorry I must disagree. KG doesnt want to be a center, I get that. KG doesnt want to be known as a center or called a center. Doesnt mean he doesnt still play center and has for many years in certain situations.

My point was that every player during every game has to switch or rotate defensively for matchups. KG knows this and does it without complaint. An example is a couple of years ago against the Cavs. He checked big Z while Perk took on Gooden for most of the game. Doesnt mean he was a center but he was guarding a center because Z would shoot over Perk everytime he was matched up.

There are plenty of examples of this to make my point. KG is the best defender and longest guy on the court for his team most of the time. That matches him up against the center in many situations.

Why doesn't Doc just tell KG that this year they are running a two PF line up?

Haha, I like that idea, actually. TP.
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