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Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2012, 09:15:30 AM »

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We were 2nd on defense last year. 26th on offense. How do either of those picks help us? Sullinger is slow and will not be able to score against anyone in the post. Melo could not throw the ball in the [dang] ocean. Danny's worst draft ever. Just pathetic.

The Cs were at the bottom of the league in rebounding, and soft as tissue paper in the paint.  Jeff or whomever Ainge uses that FA money on can provide more scoring. 

Did you really think Ainge could draft someone at 21 or 22 who would provide scoring this season?  The Cs tried to package their picks to move up  to maybe get someone like that, but didn't succeed. 


Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2012, 09:16:08 AM »

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We were 2nd on defense last year. 26th on offense. How do either of those picks help us?

Easy answer, we drafted the post post scorer to enter the NBA in the last 2 years.
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Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2012, 09:26:27 AM »

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Sigh... it's all over. Sully and Fab are leading this team back into the lottery next season. I am sure both players will land jobs in the Mexican league by 2014.

KG probably saw who the Cs drafted and started filling out his NBA retirement paperwork right away.

The Cs may not even break 9 win next year!!!

This is terrible.

The best we can hope for is to trade Rondo to the Heat for Mike Miller and a #1.

Excuse me while I drown my sorrows in coffee.

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Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2012, 09:28:58 AM »

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The draft was pretty good IMO. If you would have posted on this board even a few months ago that Sullinger would land in our lap, you would have been laughed out of the forums.
I don't like the Fab Melo pick, too many red flags for me, but I trust Danny. And at 22, right after making a solid pick, you have room to gamble. I'm not sure why people think we could pick up two starters with the 21st and 22nd picks--heck, our 1st round pick from last year never made it off the bench.
Plus, its hard for me to judge the draft when I haven't seen the moves Danny will make by training camp. The picks are pieces to the puzzle, and we only have like a third of a team assembled. Be a little patient maybe?

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2012, 09:52:55 AM »

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Could these moves mean we are moving Rondo?  These are not the types that will improve his game as I see it.

Contrary to popular belief, I think Rondo doesn't need to run on the break every 2 possessions. Nor would a team that does not do so hinder Rondo significantly (or in my opinion, at all).

Having a severely flawed team: one that lives or dies by the jumpshot and is largely inconsistent as a result, one that cannot rebound and loses momentum as almost once per game the opponent takes multiple attempts every possession, one that has no post presence on defense or on offense barring KG on the defensive end, one without depth at all leading to the only offensive weapons being Bass, Pierce and KG (post-season).



That's what hinders Rondo's production.




Rondo does everything except scoring and runs an offense exceptionally.

Not saying Fab Melo is even close to sniffing Shaq's level but having a big body on the inside who's scouted to have "soft hands" would certainly change the dynamics of the offense and Rondo's game a lot.

Sullinger would appreciate catching the ball in the post taking high percentage shots, unlike KG who's resorted to his jumpshot now. Rondo can get him there.




Not vouching for either players but saying that Rondo does not rely solely and entirely and completely and utterly on the break.




Running mates for Rondo? we've got Kris Joseph, Jajuan Johnson, Avery Bradley and possibly Jeff Green and Wilcox.

But, anyway, I hope the draft pans out. Drafts are indeed crapshoots and players are very malleable being only human. I'm rooting for our 3 rooks and 2 sophomores (who I hope will improve vastly after an actual summer camp).

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2012, 09:56:52 AM »

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Donny Marshall didn't like the Sullinger pick so, I couldn't be more pleased with it.

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2012, 10:01:01 AM »

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Donny Marshall didn't like the Sullinger pick so, I couldn't be more pleased with it.

I would trade Jared Sullinger for Donny Marshall...Hell I would trade 5 slightly used beer cans for Donny Marshall...not a fan.

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2012, 10:14:33 AM »

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Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2012, 11:31:59 AM »

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Sullinger was the perfect pick for us at the spot we were at.

Fab Melo may have been a slight reach but honestly we need the size. I'd take him over PJ3 any day.

The only other player I may have taken over Melo may have been a Quincy Miller/Tony Wroten just to solidify the back court/wing if Jeff Green/Ray Allen aren't coming back.


Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2012, 11:47:26 AM »

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melo has alot of question marks....but I feel ALOT more confident about the pick now that KG is back.

look what he has done with Stiemsma, BBD, Perkins,

Melo is a 7 footer who already has defensive instincts...if KG can mold him, he can be someone who when KG goes to the bench can be that "defensive anchor" so we dont fall off the map

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2012, 11:56:42 AM »

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I think the draft was solid. Great combo of getting a solid high IQ player that will help right now off the bench.

And  a project that if used right could help by the middle of the season. People crap on Melo, but after hearing some interviews, and reading an article on him, its quite impressive how far he's gotten in such a short time, and he has a great attitude on things, and doesn't think high on himself. Good call on DA taking a shot on this guy, low risk high reward.

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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2012, 12:12:55 PM »

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We were 2nd on defense last year. 26th on offense. How do either of those picks help us? Sullinger is slow and will not be able to score against anyone in the post. Melo could not throw the ball in the [dang] ocean. Danny's worst draft ever. Just pathetic.

  We weren't 26th on offense because we can't score. We were one of the worst offensive rebounding teams in history. If we were an average offensive rebounding team we'd have had an average (like 15th or so instead of 26th) offense.

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2012, 12:37:40 PM »

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 My bet for the C's was Andrew Nicholson, But Nicholson was selected in 19 Orlando, do you think that if Nicholson had been free the C's would have pick him?

 

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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2012, 01:24:31 PM »

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 My bet for the C's was Andrew Nicholson, But Nicholson was selected in 19 Orlando, do you think that if Nicholson had been free the C's would have pick him?

 

Yes.  I think Ainge loved the kid, maybe even more than Sullinger.  If he was there, it would've been Nicholson.  IMO

Re: Total Draft Failure
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2012, 01:31:50 PM »

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We were 2nd on defense last year. 26th on offense. How do either of those picks help us? Sullinger is slow and will not be able to score against anyone in the post. Melo could not throw the ball in the [dang] ocean. Danny's worst draft ever. Just pathetic.

  We weren't 26th on offense because we can't score. We were one of the worst offensive rebounding teams in history. If we were an average offensive rebounding team we'd have had an average (like 15th or so instead of 26th) offense.


High turnover rate as well. I don't think better off. rebounding would make us jump up 11 spots.

And it's clear that the OP hasn't watched enough of Sullinger. This pick will go down in Celtics lore.