could this be a draft trade by danny in the making?

[jyyzzoel]

just saw this rumor and i remembered that someone said danny and kevin mchale were sitting side by side at some workout. we all know theyve had dealings in the past.

Steve Kyler: Hearing Houston Rockets have a deal in the works to move Sam Dalembert and possibly the 16th pick. Twitter

additionally, when u think about it, danny wants a center so kg can come back and play pf. obv first choice is camby, but danny also wants a pick to grab sullinger...  he looks at team needs.

we need rebounding. this trade and a little luck with sully falling to us in the draft would be perfect.

now, for all those who say danny wouldnt have the pieces to make the deal happen: danny wants potency rather than a lot of good (semi-good players) see the big 3 trade where we only had rondo, kg, pierce, ray, and perk left after the dust settled.

how many players will we have to play with this season? rondo, kg, pierce, bass, stiemsma, pietrus, ray ray, bradley, dooling, green, wilcox, sean williams (who is signed thru next season), moore, johnson, 2 first round draft picks... and hollins   but seriously, how many players fit on a roster?

then u factor in that the celts are interested in sonny weems, and apparently jamal crawford... either danny is gonna go for a huge trade or he wants to start a football team.

i know it's speculation at this point, but it sounds like danny would def give up a bunch of them for that trade... (of course, rondo, kg, pierce are untouchable - and prob bradley too)...

and why would the rockets do that trade?

According to sources with knowledge of the situation, they may have found a way to move one of those picks. Samuel Dalembert says all the right things in talking about wanting to be back in Houston, but his relationship with Rockets head coach Kevin McHale could have been better, and partially because of that, he is no longer considered to be in the Rockets’ long-term plans. The fact that he can become a free agent in July makes him an attractive trade piece, either for a team looking for a decent starting center, or for a team looking to create cap space. HoopsWorld


what do u guys think?

[mkogav]

just saw this rumor and i remembered that someone said danny and kevin mchale were sitting side by side at some workout. we all know theyve had dealings in the past.

Steve Kyler: Hearing Houston Rockets have a deal in the works to move Sam Dalembert and possibly the 16th pick. Twitter

additionally, when u think about it, danny wants a center so kg can come back and play pf. obv first choice is camby, but danny also wants a pick to grab sullinger...  he looks at team needs.

we need rebounding. this trade and a little luck with sully falling to us in the draft would be perfect.

now, for all those who say danny wouldnt have the pieces to make the deal happen: danny wants potency rather than a lot of good (semi-good players) see the big 3 trade.

how many players will we have to play with this season? rondo, kg, pierce, bass, stiemsma, pietrus, ray ray, bradley, dooling, green, wilcox, sean williams (who is signed thru next season), moore, johnson, 2 first round draft picks...

i know it's speculation at this point, but it sounds like danny would def give up a bunch of them for that trade... (of course, rondo, kg, pierce are untouchable - and prob bradley too)...

what do u guys think?

SamDal & #16 for....

It depends on what the Cs are giving up beside taking on SamDal's salary. As long as the deal does not include Rondo, PP, KG, and Bradley I am probably down with it.

Mk

[Lucky17]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

[jyyzzoel]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

i dont think danny would be that insane to trade pierce, even if he has green's bird rights. he needs pierce to get kg imo... but then again, he's danny... unpredictable gambler danny 

[jyyzzoel]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... mostly... worried  


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sh22gn

[rondohondo]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... worried 

ugh Rondo is a top 10-15 player in this league, no way am I trading him for that package. Lowry gets talked up so much around here and yet has never even led his team to the playoffs.

[Lucky17]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... worried 

They do match. That trade would work per the CBA.

Would Ainge deal Rondo? And would Houston trade Lowry for another PG, instead of for help elsewhere? Maybe they'd deal Dragic in a follow up move.

[snively]

Half the league probably wants Dalembert (solid defensive/rebounding big signed one year for cheap): this could be anybody.

The question is who are the Rockets trying to add?

[clover]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

i dont think danny would be that insane to trade pierce, even if he has green's bird rights. he needs pierce to get kg imo... but then again, he's danny... unpredictable gambler danny 

I think Wyc would make Danny jump through hoops on fire before he'd go along with trading Pierce.

[slamtheking]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... mostly... worried  


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sh22gn

I'd do a Dalembert/#16 for #21/#22 deal.  Would have to probably renounce some players first or resign a couple of our FA's (like KG) that will be in line for a pay cut to reduce the caphold hit we're taking now.  If Houston's that desperate to free up Dalembert's salary, they should kick in that pick as an incententive.  (I'd prefer the #14 pick but that's not happening.) 

Houston could then conceivably flip a combination of the #14 with #21, #22 or both to get higher for a really good player.  Maybe flip the picks in a deal with LA for Gasol instead (while moving some players like Scola and Lowry.)

[Sketch5]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... worried 

They do match. That trade would work per the CBA.

Would Ainge deal Rondo? And would Houston trade Lowry for another PG, instead of for help elsewhere? Maybe they'd deal Dragic in a follow up move.

I don't think KG will come back if either Peirce or Rondo get traded. He wants an other run at a ring. With out PP and Rondo you can get it done next season.

Probably there could be a trade on draft night, but wont know the full details till after FA starts.

I wouldn't mind seeing a 3 way with Atlanta where Dalembert gets moved to Atlanta, and Boston gets Smith. The 16th would proably go to Atlanta, they want to move up in draft. Who would be involved on Bostons side? Not sure, could be players we would even consider that would be cool being shipped to Huston.

I know KG wants to go back to PF, but would be be cool with it if Smith played next to him?

[clover]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

Just a wild guess, but if the deal definitely instead of "possibly" involves the #16 pick, then I am guessing a resurrected version of the deal with LA for Pau Gasol.

would a rondo for lowry, dalembert, and the 16th pick do it? i remember hearing lowry wasnt happy in houston... oh MY goodness... i just realised the salaries match... worried 

ugh Rondo is a top 10-15 player in this league, no way am I trading him for that package. Lowry gets talked up so much around here and yet has never even led his team to the playoffs.

Danny's got one star for the next generation of team and he needs to add two more to rebuild.  The last thing he would do is trade that one star for a package of fillers.

[greenpride32]

I'm going to have to say that adding Lowry and Dalembert, and subtracting Rondo makes us a better team.  Bring back KG, Green, along with Pierce; and if Bradley continutes to develop that's a pretty strong core.

[LarBrd33]

Won't happen on draft night, unless it involves Rondo or Pierce.

i dont think danny would be that insane to trade pierce, even if he has green's bird rights. he needs pierce to get kg imo... but then again, he's danny... unpredictable gambler danny  

I think Wyc would make Danny jump through hoops on fire before he'd go along with trading Pierce.

According to Broussard, we already traded Pierce to the Nets at the trade deadline for their top 3 protected pick (ended up 6th), but Pierce stopped it from happening and the Nets traded for Wallace instead.  

Also, one of the first moves Ainge tried to make was trading Paul Pierce to Portland prior to the 2005 draft for an instantly expiring contract and the 3rd pick... which Ainge intended to use on Chris Paul... but Pierce refused to play in Portland.

I think when it comes to Pierce trade ideas, it's definitely not Wyc who would prevent it... it's Paul Pierce.  My guess is that Pierce would rather retire than allow the Celtics to trade him to a situation where he needs to start over.  Maybe there are a couple teams he'd actually play for, though... I haven't heard any rumors to suggest there are.

[BballTim]

I'm going to have to say that adding Lowry and Dalembert, and subtracting Rondo makes us a better team.  Bring back KG, Green, along with Pierce; and if Bradley continutes to develop that's a pretty strong core.

  The team won't contend without Rondo without major changes. If you aren't getting a better player than Rondo in a trade or else two players that are well above average you lose the trade. In the nba, a quarter is worth much more than 2 dimes and a nickel, or in this case, a dime and a nickel.