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Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2012, 10:45:40 AM »

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If Eric Gordon is, indeed, the best under 30 shooting guard in the league, that's a sad statement for the talent at that position.
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Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2012, 10:46:34 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.
The first trade was a foolish attempt to make a run at the 7th/8th seed. It provides a superior "win now" because you're getting three high quality players, two of whom are PFs. (well we thought Odom was quality till he got to Dallas).

After that they seemed to value packages based on Gordon/Picks and Curry/Picks more than Rondo/Green. I can't say I blame them much as the C's weren't sending much of value other than Rondo.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2012, 10:55:15 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.
The first trade was a foolish attempt to make a run at the 7th/8th seed. It provides a superior "win now" because you're getting three high quality players, two of whom are PFs. (well we thought Odom was quality till he got to Dallas).

After that they seemed to value packages based on Gordon/Picks and Curry/Picks more than Rondo/Green. I can't say I blame them much as the C's weren't sending much of value other than Rondo.

Nevertheless you admittedly think that they felt that Odom, Scola, and Martin gave them a better chance to win, at the time, than Rondo and Green did. I wouldn't do that trade then even if it were based on one season. Again, people value players differently. Why is it a knock on Rondo if Demps doesn't think of him as highly as he did Gordon and Curry?  The reality is that Rondo is a great player, but he does come with baggage. Baggage that some are willing to deal with, while others aren't.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2012, 10:57:26 AM »

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Pretty straight forward -

New Orleans gets a great point guard to go with their new big man.

Boston gets the best under 30 SG in the league and a Top 10 Pick in a loaded draft.

Never.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2012, 10:59:57 AM »

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Rondo just had one of the best playoff performances in Celtics history.  We have him locked up for 3 more years at a reasonable price.  He is hitting his peak as a player right now.  Why on earth would we trade him for a draft pick?????

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2012, 11:02:28 AM »

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No thank you, next idea. keep em coming! ;D

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2012, 11:02:51 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.

  That trade would take the team in a different direction. It's more likely that he preferred the strategy than the packages.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2012, 11:05:35 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.
The first trade was a foolish attempt to make a run at the 7th/8th seed. It provides a superior "win now" because you're getting three high quality players, two of whom are PFs. (well we thought Odom was quality till he got to Dallas).

After that they seemed to value packages based on Gordon/Picks and Curry/Picks more than Rondo/Green. I can't say I blame them much as the C's weren't sending much of value other than Rondo.

Nevertheless you admittedly think that they felt that Odom, Scola, and Martin gave them a better chance to win, at the time, than Rondo and Green did. I wouldn't do that trade then even if it were based on one season. Again, people value players differently. Why is it a knock on Rondo if Demps doesn't think of him as highly as he did Gordon and Curry?  The reality is that Rondo is a great player, but he does come with baggage. Baggage that some are willing to deal with, while others aren't.

  When the Celts played the Hornets at the beginning of the season one of the Comcast reporters asked Demps about the Hornets not wanting Rondo and he said that most of the rumors that were going around about the situation were false.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2012, 11:05:54 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.
The first trade was a foolish attempt to make a run at the 7th/8th seed. It provides a superior "win now" because you're getting three high quality players, two of whom are PFs. (well we thought Odom was quality till he got to Dallas).

After that they seemed to value packages based on Gordon/Picks and Curry/Picks more than Rondo/Green. I can't say I blame them much as the C's weren't sending much of value other than Rondo.

Nevertheless you admittedly think that they felt that Odom, Scola, and Martin gave them a better chance to win, at the time, than Rondo and Green did. I wouldn't do that trade then even if it were based on one season. Again, people value players differently. Why is it a knock on Rondo if Demps doesn't think of him as highly as he did Gordon and Curry?  The reality is that Rondo is a great player, but he does come with baggage. Baggage that some are willing to deal with, while others aren't.
We were all responding to your assertion that:

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.
We're not saying anything about it being a knock on Rondo, we're providing the additional context of draft picks, contracts, and win now goal that were also a part of NOH thinking.

Your view Demps doesn't think much of Rondo, that's your opinion. The three of us who responded think that the additional factors of NOH situation very well could leave them open to such a move now. None of us really have more information than what's been presented in this thread leaving a lot of room for interpretation.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 11:08:27 AM »

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.

    They liked Gordon on a rookie contract, a pick they expected to be in the top 3 or so  in a great draft and other assets better than Rondo. They'd be crazy to turn down the deal and we'd be worse to consider it.


They also thought Kev. Martin, Scola, and Odom was a better package than Rondo and Green. Some GM's probably have a different opinion, but obviously Demps doesn't think that much of Rondo.
The first trade was a foolish attempt to make a run at the 7th/8th seed. It provides a superior "win now" because you're getting three high quality players, two of whom are PFs. (well we thought Odom was quality till he got to Dallas).

After that they seemed to value packages based on Gordon/Picks and Curry/Picks more than Rondo/Green. I can't say I blame them much as the C's weren't sending much of value other than Rondo.

Nevertheless you admittedly think that they felt that Odom, Scola, and Martin gave them a better chance to win, at the time, than Rondo and Green did. I wouldn't do that trade then even if it were based on one season. Again, people value players differently. Why is it a knock on Rondo if Demps doesn't think of him as highly as he did Gordon and Curry?  The reality is that Rondo is a great player, but he does come with baggage. Baggage that some are willing to deal with, while others aren't.
We were all responding to your assertion that:

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NO will probably say no to Rondo for Gordon straight up. They liked Gordon better just 6 months ago, which is why the chose the LAC deal rather than Boston's.
We're not saying anything about it being a knock on Rondo, we're providing the additional context of draft picks, contracts, and win now goal that were also a part of NOH thinking.

Your view Demps doesn't think much of Rondo, that's your opinion. The three of us who responded think that the additional factors of NOH situation very well could leave them open to such a move now. None of us really have more information than what's been presented in this thread leaving a lot of room for interpretation.


Again, but that's from our point of view. I admittedly wouldn't do that trade either. However, opinions might be different if it were asked to NO fans.

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2012, 11:09:15 AM »

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Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2012, 11:28:28 AM »

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Pretty straight forward -

New Orleans gets a great point guard to go with their new big man.

Boston gets the best under 30 SG in the league and a Top 10 Pick in a loaded draft.

No.

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Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2012, 11:30:01 AM »

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No.

Gordon hasn't proven that he can even be a star caliber player in this league, let alone a transcendent superstar.  While Rondo might not have proved he's quite the latter yet, he's certainly established himself as a star who is just a step away (perhaps) from being a transcendent top 5-10 superstar in the NBA.

You don't trade that away for a guy who might be a star and the #10 pick, which has a much better chance to be the next Jeromoe Moiso than the next Paul Pierce.  

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2012, 11:36:32 AM »

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No.

Rondo and one of our firsts for Gordon and #1, yeah. Of course that will not happen.

Maybe if we take back Okafur  ;)

Re: Would you deal Rondo for Gordon and #10
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2012, 11:45:03 AM »

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I am a little suprised the response is complete rejection, thought it would be a little more split - especially considering Deron Williams, Steve Nash and Goran Dragic are free agents.
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