stop suggesting we pick up a center, its not a need.

[Army_of_One_Nation]

Jason Thompson of Sacramento is a good player to have. Might be available at the right price, too.

[perks-a-beast]

Jason Thompson of Sacramento is a good player to have. Might be available at the right price, too.

I would love that. Thompson is still young and can run the floor and rebound. Can play the 4 when Garnetts in and the 5 when we go small. Easily capable of putting up 14 and 8 with Rondo getting him easy buckets. The question is how much will he cost. I think the Kings would match anything south of 7 mil...so yikes.

[pearljammer10]

teams dont win championships without legit centers or pf's that can move to the center spot.

2011 - Dallas - Chandler
2010 - Lakers - Bynum Gasol
2009 - Lakers - Bynum Gasol
2008 - Celtics - Perkins
2007 - Spurs - Duncan
2006 - miami - Shaq
2005 - Spurs - Duncan
2004 - Pistons - Wallace
2003 - Spurs - Duncan
2002 - Lakers - Shaq
2001 - Lakers - Shaq
2000 - Lakers Shaq

You get the idea.

we have KG.

KG is a PF playing Center. As effective as he was, itll be a huge risk if we log him a ton of minutes going against guys who are more of the times stronger than him. Sure he creates mismatches for them offensively, but it'll take a toll on an already old KG, we should have at least a legit one even as a backup.

Still, not exactly a need. Worst case scenario we get our PF to play center and go smallball.

It is a need and has been since Perk left,  you can't rely on small ball it's something that works in stretches but you don't want to always go there

Yeah because small ball has worked so amazing for us over the years   completely agree J8, since Perk left is has been a GLARING need that we are missing a big body to clog up the middle on defense. Yes garnett played the center role well but Miami drove it right down our throats when they were attacking. We cant rely on an older Garnett to take over the middle, we need an intimidating shot changing sidekick.

if u watched the game they had LBJ at the 4, a big body down low is not going to stop that they will spread the floor and let wade and james attack easiest offense you can set up with them 2.. this is a reason why we really needed jeff green and avery.. but we got the bad luck

What does this have to do with a center and how does green and bradley help us stop james at the 4?

If james is playing the four, great. If we had a center in the middle to stop the attack, we could have done that while giving garnett extra rest.

[sdceltsfan]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

[jc3celticsphan]

teams dont win championships without legit centers or pf's that can move to the center spot.

2011 - Dallas - Chandler
2010 - Lakers - Bynum Gasol
2009 - Lakers - Bynum Gasol
2008 - Celtics - Perkins
2007 - Spurs - Duncan
2006 - miami - Shaq
2005 - Spurs - Duncan
2004 - Pistons - Wallace
2003 - Spurs - Duncan
2002 - Lakers - Shaq
2001 - Lakers - Shaq
2000 - Lakers Shaq

You get the idea.

we have KG.

KG is a PF playing Center. As effective as he was, itll be a huge risk if we log him a ton of minutes going against guys who are more of the times stronger than him. Sure he creates mismatches for them offensively, but it'll take a toll on an already old KG, we should have at least a legit one even as a backup.

Still, not exactly a need. Worst case scenario we get our PF to play center and go smallball.

It is a need and has been since Perk left,  you can't rely on small ball it's something that works in stretches but you don't want to always go there

Yeah because small ball has worked so amazing for us over the years   completely agree J8, since Perk left is has been a GLARING need that we are missing a big body to clog up the middle on defense. Yes garnett played the center role well but Miami drove it right down our throats when they were attacking. We cant rely on an older Garnett to take over the middle, we need an intimidating shot changing sidekick.

if u watched the game they had LBJ at the 4, a big body down low is not going to stop that they will spread the floor and let wade and james attack easiest offense you can set up with them 2.. this is a reason why we really needed jeff green and avery.. but we got the bad luck

What does this have to do with a center and how does green and bradley help us stop james at the 4?

If james is playing the four, great. If we had a center in the middle to stop the attack, we could have done that while giving garnett extra rest.

so u rather overpay for a center when we already have one kg puttin up 20-10 numbers.. and can strectch the floor for rondo?  sure he needs a backup but nothing special. DA wont overpay for some one who isnt going to play meaningful minutes. he will go with the low risk high reward option again.


and it has everything to do with the center spot. you cant help off bosh to clog the lane is my point. jeff green can force lebron into shooting and avery bradley can hold wade

point blank theres no need for a center

[lightspeed5]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

oh ok, thats why OKC benches perk and miami benches all their centers.

[KCattheStripe]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

oh ok, thats why OKC benches perk and miami benches all their centers.

None of Miami's centers are 7 feet and Perk is offensively deficient so he can't balance out the mismatch Bosh has on him at the other end.

[Change]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

oh ok, thats why OKC benches perk and miami benches all their centers.

They call that adjustments my friend. Perk served his purpose against Lakers bigs, and defending Timmy Duncan. Miami Heat on the other hand play small ball. Bad matchup for big Perk.

[lightspeed5]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

oh ok, thats why OKC benches perk and miami benches all their centers.

They call that adjustments my friend. Perk served his purpose against Lakers bigs, and defending Timmy Duncan. Miami Heat on the other hand play small ball. Bad matchup for big Perk.

well our team needs to be built to fight the eastern teams. minus dwight howard, all the eastern contenders are small and fast.

[Change]

quite possibly the most ridiculous thread ever created....

No offense to KG/Stiemsma/Hollins, but are you serious on this? Even the statement itself that the dominant bigman center in the middle is a "dying breed" (like the average human is progressively getting smaller), completely contradicts itself.

The big-bodied 7-footer may be a rare breed, but that doesn't make them any less desirable to teams; if anything, it is the opposite. Every team wishes they could get a guy like Dwight Howard, Shaq, DeAndre Jordan, Bynum, Brook Lopez in those top 5-10 picks in the draft, and when those type of players are FA's.

You build a defense around that type of player, and all of those guys are basically career double-double machines.

The OP's request is dismissed as far as I'm concerned.

oh ok, thats why OKC benches perk and miami benches all their centers.

They call that adjustments my friend. Perk served his purpose against Lakers bigs, and defending Timmy Duncan. Miami Heat on the other hand play small ball. Bad matchup for big Perk.

well our team needs to be built to fight the eastern teams. minus dwight howard, all the eastern contenders are small and fast.

What about the Bulls? Hawks coming back with more size next year. Don't forget the Knicks have 2 seven footers in their lineup. Again Miami Heat are the exception. But size still matters in the NBA.

[lightspeed5]

you either choose size or speed. when you have rondo on  your team, you choose speed by default to stock up on. playing 2 power forwards can do wonders for us in transition as well as offenively.

[CoachBo]

We need a rebounder. Whether that rebounder plays the 4 or the 5 is rather irrelevant.

[KCattheStripe]

you either choose size or speed. when you have rondo on  your team, you choose speed by default to stock up on. playing 2 power forwards can do wonders for us in transition as well as offenively.

You're right, that's why the Lakers of the 80's built a team around Magic and Kareem and the Lakers of the 00s built a team around Kobe and Shaq and the Spurs around duncan and Parker. Because you have to choose between size and speed.

[jc3celticsphan]

We need a rebounder. Whether that rebounder plays the 4 or the 5 is rather irrelevant.

exactly

[MaxAMillion]

Hopefully Moultrie is our future center. I think DA can package our two picks to move up into the low teens to get him.