How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)

[Rondo2287]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

[Donoghus]

Alright, my presentation is finally up.  Sorry for the delay.

Feel free to attack ask questions, comment, etc...

[Rondo2287]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

[KCattheStripe]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

And if M. Gasol had been on those Lakers teams, he'd have three rings.

[Rondo2287]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

And if M. Gasol had been on those Lakers teams, he'd have three rings.

Maybe, but he wasnt and Bynum does have 2 compared to Gasol's 0

[KCattheStripe]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

And if M. Gasol had been on those Lakers teams, he'd have three rings.

Maybe, but he wasnt and Bynum does have 2 compared to Gasol's 0

Bynum is also a punk and Gasol is a leader.

[StartOrien]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

And if M. Gasol had been on those Lakers teams, he'd have three rings.

Maybe, but he wasnt and Bynum does have 2 compared to Gasol's 0

Scalabrine has a ring. Charles Barkley doesn't.

[Rondo2287]

Guys,

Chris Paul with 23 pts, 11 assts and 5 boards.

VC 27 ppg, 4 assts and 5 boards,

Jamal Mashburn, 19 ppg, 5 assts and 5 boards,

Dirk, 26 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards

Marc Gasol 14 ppg, 3 assts, 9 boards


SO MUCH TEAMWORK!

Not really sure how that compares to this

Derrick Rose 25/7.7/4.1 PER 23.5 with improved numbers in 16 post season games and the league MVP

Paul Pierce 26.1/3.2/6.9 PER 22.3 with improved rebounding and passing in 16 post season games

Joe Johnson 17.1/3.5/5.1 PER 15.1, with 47% from three and improved numbers (including 55.6% from three) in 9 post season games

Karl Malone 27.4/4.5/9.9 PER 28.9 with comparable numbers in 20 post season games and the league MVP

Andrew Bynum 18.7/1.4/11.8 PER 22.9 with comparable numbers in 12 post season games

I'd take CP3 over Rose any day of the week on thirteen extra  times on Sunday.

At the points we've chosen them, Vince was a far better player than Pierce.

I like the Mash versus JJ match-up for both teams, although in the team context I like that I took mash towards the end of his career where he's more experienced.

I'm going to say this, but Dirk is better than the Mailman. Comprable all time scoring numbers without playing with John Stockton for his entire career as well as being an MVp and a champion.

I actually wonder if Gasol wouldn't have been a better fit  on-court for your team and Bynum would have been a better one for mine.

I would also take CP3 over Rose and IMO Rose's MVP was a bit of a joke.

I would say at that point in there careers VC and PP were very similar players.  I don't think the edge one way or another is discernable

Dirk and Mailman is an interesting matchup, not sure where the edge goes there to be honest.  Both are fantastic players.

Bynum has the rings but Gasol has the personality and team first attitude.  Numbers are about equal.  Probably going to lean Bynum cause of the rings.

Actually I think the Gap between Bynum and Gasol is pretty large.  If Bynum were healthy in 07-08 there is a good chance he would have 3 rings at this point. 

And if M. Gasol had been on those Lakers teams, he'd have three rings.

Maybe, but he wasnt and Bynum does have 2 compared to Gasol's 0

Scalabrine has a ring. Charles Barkley doesn't.

Thats true but when comparing similar talents Rings is a very useful barometer IMO

[StartOrien]

Thats true but when comparing similar talents Rings is a very useful barometer IMO

Not when their supporting casts are drastically different.

[Who]

Dirk Nowitzki was a guy I had trouble ranking. Still not comfortable with where to place him - in front or behind Karl Malone.

I had him behind (because of the large difference defensively) but I am not totally comfortable with that. Dirk is such a lethal offensive player. Probably about even in terms of rebounding in the playoffs. Dirk usually stepped up his board work while Malone's decreased (as did his offense). Dirk put his team on the back and carried them in a way Malone never did.

Hmm ... yeah, I am thinking that's wrong and that Dirk should be ahead of Malone. That would put him in 2nd place behind KG amongst PFs.

[Rondo2287]

Thats true but when comparing similar talents Rings is a very useful barometer IMO

Not when their supporting casts are drastically different.

I disagree.  I still think it means something

[KCattheStripe]

Dirk Nowitzki was a guy I had trouble ranking. Still not comfortable with where to place him - in front or behind Karl Malone.

I had him behind (because of the large difference defensively) but I am not totally comfortable with that. Dirk is such a lethal offensive player. Probably about even in terms of rebounding in the playoffs. Dirk usually stepped up his board work while Malone's decreased (as did his offense). Dirk put his team on the back and carried them in a way Malone never did.

Hmm ... yeah, I am thinking that's wrong and that Dirk should be ahead of Malone. That would put him in 2nd place behind KG amongst PFs.

Counting Duncan as a center?

[StartOrien]

Thats true but when comparing similar talents Rings is a very useful barometer IMO

Not when their supporting casts are drastically different.

I disagree.  I still think it means something

Why?

If you were to swap Marc Gasol and Andrew Bynum in the past 10 years, what are the chances the Grizzlies win a championship? What are the chances the Lakers still win 3?

[KCattheStripe]

Thats true but when comparing similar talents Rings is a very useful barometer IMO

Not when their supporting casts are drastically different.

I disagree.  I still think it means something

Not when Bynum's teammates were a top 5 PF in this format and a top 5 player in this format and the best player Marc has played with was taken in the 5th round of this draft.

[Who]

Dirk Nowitzki was a guy I had trouble ranking. Still not comfortable with where to place him - in front or behind Karl Malone.

I had him behind (because of the large difference defensively) but I am not totally comfortable with that. Dirk is such a lethal offensive player. Probably about even in terms of rebounding in the playoffs. Dirk usually stepped up his board work while Malone's decreased (as did his offense). Dirk put his team on the back and carried them in a way Malone never did.

Hmm ... yeah, I am thinking that's wrong and that Dirk should be ahead of Malone. That would put him in 2nd place behind KG amongst PFs.

Counting Duncan as a center?

Yes, I have Ben Wallace at PF.