How's my Historical Team? (Awesome right!)

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Donezo.

Steve Nash
Michael Finley
Scottie Pippen
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal

Josh Smith (PF)
Shane Battier (SG/SF)
M Okur (C)
Darrell Armstrong (PG)
Glen Rice (SF)
Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
Wesley Person (SG/SF)
Big Z (C)

If we can still trade I think you gotta look at getting some more speed at the 2. Right now you're completely reliant on Finley, without a real backup.

[Roy H.]

Donezo.

Steve Nash
Michael Finley
Scottie Pippen
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal

Josh Smith (PF)
Shane Battier (SG/SF)
M Okur (C)
Darrell Armstrong (PG)
Glen Rice (SF)
Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
Wesley Person (SG/SF)
Big Z (C)

If we can still trade I think you gotta look at getting some more speed at the 2. Right now you're completely reliant on Finley, without a real backup.

I suppose if any SG can play 48 minutes per night, it's Finley.

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Donezo.

Steve Nash
Michael Finley
Scottie Pippen
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal

Josh Smith (PF)
Shane Battier (SG/SF)
M Okur (C)
Darrell Armstrong (PG)
Glen Rice (SF)
Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
Wesley Person (SG/SF)
Big Z (C)

If we can still trade I think you gotta look at getting some more speed at the 2. Right now you're completely reliant on Finley, without a real backup.

Battier?

[Roy H.]

My general impression of the draft is that a few of the teams got a little too happy with role players.  It's great having guys who know their role, but you also need to have the talent to compete against Hall of Famers. 

Some of these teams will essentially be playing 4-on-5 on offense relative to their peers, and to me, that's not always the best strategy.  As much as I like guys like Posey, Bowen, Christie, etc., I'm not sure that they're starters in this format.  They're good players who could limit superstars, but the superstars are still going to outscore them by fairly significant margins on a nightly basis.

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Donezo.

Steve Nash
Michael Finley
Scottie Pippen
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal

Josh Smith (PF)
Shane Battier (SG/SF)
M Okur (C)
Darrell Armstrong (PG)
Glen Rice (SF)
Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
Wesley Person (SG/SF)
Big Z (C)

If we can still trade I think you gotta look at getting some more speed at the 2. Right now you're completely reliant on Finley, without a real backup.

Battier?

I don't know if even in his prime he's going to be quick enough defensively, and offensively, I don't think you're capitalizing on the 2 guard like you should be able to with Nash-Pippen.

[Moranis]

My general impression of the draft is that a few of the teams got a little too happy with role players.  It's great having guys who know their role, but you also need to have the talent to compete against Hall of Famers. 

Some of these teams will essentially be playing 4-on-5 on offense relative to their peers, and to me, that's not always the best strategy.  As much as I like guys like Posey, Bowen, Christie, etc., I'm not sure that they're starters in this format.  They're good players who could limit superstars, but the superstars are still going to outscore them by fairly significant margins on a nightly basis.

That was absolutely my thinking when I drafted.  I figured I would pick up some role players late (I really only ended up with one guy I'd call a true role player - AC Green), and just looked at talent, fit, chemistry, etc.  Sure the glue guys are nice, but in a league like this, your glue guys better be all time great glue guys (like a Rodman) or you are going to be giving up way too much on the offensive end of the floor (or defensive end if your glue guy, specialist is a shooter).

[wdleehi]

My general impression of the draft is that a few of the teams got a little too happy with role players.  It's great having guys who know their role, but you also need to have the talent to compete against Hall of Famers. 

Some of these teams will essentially be playing 4-on-5 on offense relative to their peers, and to me, that's not always the best strategy.  As much as I like guys like Posey, Bowen, Christie, etc., I'm not sure that they're starters in this format.  They're good players who could limit superstars, but the superstars are still going to outscore them by fairly significant margins on a nightly basis.

That was my thought as well.  Fill the court with guys that had to be defended but have shown the willingness and ability to fit into a deep offense.


I add certain role players at the end (big shots/defense, size/rebounding/shot blocking, defense/outside range;  all with good playoff/title winning experience)

[indeedproceed]

Donezo.

Steve Nash
Michael Finley
Scottie Pippen
Elton Brand
Jermaine O'Neal

Josh Smith (PF)
Shane Battier (SG/SF)
M Okur (C)
Darrell Armstrong (PG)
Glen Rice (SF)
Ersan Ilyasova (PF)
Wesley Person (SG/SF)
Big Z (C)

If we can still trade I think you gotta look at getting some more speed at the 2. Right now you're completely reliant on Finley, without a real backup.

Battier?

I don't know if even in his prime he's going to be quick enough defensively, and offensively, I don't think you're capitalizing on the 2 guard like you should be able to with Nash-Pippen.

I agree with the last part, kinda. Battier in his prime was guarding Kobe and Wade, he can abs cover the 2 here, IMO. Better than most, infact.

But as far as offense goes, I see what you're saying aobut not utilizing the 2 enough. ANother guy I took a serious look at was Bonzi Wells, but I wanted to glue there, and my thinking was this:

my swingmen will look mostly like,

Finley-Pippen (most of the game)
Battier-Pippen
Pippen-RIce
Battier-Rice
Persons-Battier

Basically one of Pippen/Battier on the floor at all times, taking the tougher defensive assignment.

My thoughts were that between the offense at the 4 in Brand, the offense from Nash, the offense from Pippen, the offense from O'neal, the offense from Finley, J-Smith, Okur, how much more could I get out of my 2 other than good to great defense and a lot of spot-up 3's a lot of the times?

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Battier could keep Bryant, Wade to their averages but not a lot much more. He's not the pure role player as referenced above, but his limited offensive ability is only going to be exaggerated in this format.

He's not the prototype of the shooting guard I'd like to see next to Pippen and Nash (that'd be Sprewell), but I was surprised to see Stephen Jackson not get picked at all. He probably would've been a nice fit.

But again, I think you need someone with some speed at 2, which is why I suggested the Eddie Jones trade. I'm sure there's a ton out there you could acquire and it wouldn't take much.

[Who]

I think you need a shooter in there in between Pippen and Nash.

I wouldn't go with a Sprewell or Bonzi Wells type.

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I think you need a shooter in there in between Pippen and Nash.

I wouldn't go with a Sprewell or Bonzi Wells type.

In his breakout season with Golden State he shot .360 from behind the arc. Pretty respectable number, and you could argue that would only improve with the looks he'd get from Nash and Pippen.

Defensively he'd create nightmares for passing lanes with Pippen, and he'd capitalize with some ferocious dunks in transition.

[Who]

I think you need a shooter in there in between Pippen and Nash.

I wouldn't go with a Sprewell or Bonzi Wells type.

In his breakout season with Golden State he shot .360 from behind the arc. Pretty respectable number, and you could argue that would only improve with the looks he'd get from Nash and Pippen.

Defensively he'd create nightmares for passing lanes with Pippen, and he'd capitalize with some ferocious dunks in transition.

Okay, you sold me. That sounds workable (offensively I mean, I love it defensively). 

Still not wild about it but I can live with that combination.

[GreenFaith1819]

C - Yao Ming/Joakim Noah/Manute Bol
PF - KG/Zach Randolph/Antonio Davis
SF - Eddie Jones/Derrick Mckey/Dennis Scott
SG - Michael Redd/Tony Allen
PG - Chauncey Billups/Sam Cassell

Thoughts? Matchup issues?

[indeedproceed]

I think you guys are forgetting how good Finley was, and how athletic he was in his prime. He's a shot creator, plus defender, solid shooter, and good lockerroom guy, plus although he and Nash didn't work spectacularly in Nellie ball, they didn't have a cast remotely as sound as this one.

And Shane battier has been underestimated for years. Look up the article on him from the ny times, the plus minus numbers. He makes his teammates better, he was the bat perimeter defender in the league for a year or two, and he can hit his corner 3. Not a prototype, but I'm not concerned about him checking anyone.

[KCattheStripe]

And Shane battier has been underestimated for years. Look up the article on him from the ny times, the plus minus numbers. He makes his teammates better, he was the bat perimeter defender in the league for a year or two, and he can hit his corner 3. Not a prototype, but I'm not concerned about him checking anyone.

That article should have been written about Robert Horry or James Posey but the writer fell in love with the Mediocre genius that is Darryl Morey.