2012 CB Historical Draft Board (New News, Check It Out)

[StartOrien]

Either I get to pick now, or I start refueling some of these crazy conspiracy threads.

IE: How come no ones considered that the ping pong balls could be weighted? Has anyone even touched the ping pong balls besides Stern? Could be a hologram.

You forgot to add 'you guys'

let me try that again -

Just read that Tim Donaghy said that last night's Celtics game was TOTALLY rigged and he has some pretty condemning evidence. Maybe it's time we start looking for the bodies under DICTATOR Stern's office, you guys.

[StartOrien]

Question for the mods -

Can you add 'Donaghy' to the list of words that immediately gets retracted from the site when posted in a forum?

[indeedproceed]

Noice.

"Just saw FUHRER STERN's personal man servant Comrade SILVER on NBA TV, sayin sumthin about NBA Officials. Proof is in the pudding, you guys."

[Moranis]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

Penny is a match up nightmare. He'll post up smaller guards and dribble around forward if you put them on him. He's tough to stop on transition being tall and fast and agile and a willing distributor, no matter how low his assist % is.

He can do what D-Rose does, plus a post up game, plus 4 inches. Give me the tall dude. 

[Who]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

I like Penny better because I think he is superior at creating high percentage shot attempts (whereas Rose takes a higher proportion of medium-to-good percentage shot attempts) + at 6-7, he creates a major matchup problem size wise, both of which enabled him to be a much more efficient scorer (TS% of around 60%) and also allowed him to be more consistent (tougher to shut down, like Rose was by LeBron).

I also like that Penny didn't need to dominate the ball as much as Rose to create those shot attempts which makes life easier on his teammates. Allows for more ball movement and involvement from his teammates. Overall, I think that makes him a considerably more effective offensive player.

In terms of defense, I'd give Rose the nod over Penny and give Penny the edge as a possession creator.

Anyway, that's why I rate Penny higher.

[Rondo2287]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

Penny is a match up nightmare. He'll post up smaller guards and dribble around forward if you put them on him. He's tough to stop on transition being tall and fast and agile and a willing distributor, no matter how low his assist % is.

He can do what D-Rose does, plus a post up game, plus 4 inches. Give me the tall dude. 

Also when you take into account percentage of college entrance exams that Derrick Rose took, 0%, it makes Penny look alot better

[StartOrien]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

Penny is a match up nightmare. He'll post up smaller guards and dribble around forward if you put them on him. He's tough to stop on transition being tall and fast and agile and a willing distributor, no matter how low his assist % is.

He can do what D-Rose does, plus a post up game, plus 4 inches. Give me the tall dude. 

Also when you take into account percentage of college entrance exams that Derrick Rose took, 0%, it makes Penny look alot better

Didn't Penny almost drop out of school because he was home sick?

[Rondo2287]

I am a big fan of the Penny Hardaway, Vince Carter and Deron Williams picks. Also Yao.

I have Penny and Deron as my third and fourth best PGs in this draft behind Kidd and Payton.

Penny's best AST% season was 32.2% (and that was his only season over 30 and had just 2 more over 28).  Not exactly good for a PG (I mean Rose, who I've been getting a ton of crap for was at 38.7% his MVP season).  And Penny, while he was a fairly decent steal generator, was a horrid defender overall.  He doesn't make up for any of that by being an excellent outside shooter or rebounder either, and it isn't like he was going for 30 a night.  

I'd take Rose over Penny any day of the week and twice in the playoffs.  

Penny is a match up nightmare. He'll post up smaller guards and dribble around forward if you put them on him. He's tough to stop on transition being tall and fast and agile and a willing distributor, no matter how low his assist % is.

He can do what D-Rose does, plus a post up game, plus 4 inches. Give me the tall dude. 

Also when you take into account percentage of college entrance exams that Derrick Rose took, 0%, it makes Penny look alot better

Didn't Penny almost drop out of school because he was home sick?

I dunno but he had a 3.4 GPA

[StartOrien]

I think I made that joke above in every Historical draft so far.

EDIT: Rondo, I was j/k'ng. He was only homesick in the movie "Blue Chips"

[Rondo2287]

I think I made that joke above in every Historical draft so far.

EDIT: Rondo, I was j/k'ng. He was only homesick in the movie "Blue Chips"

Oh, never saw it.  Never even heard of it actually, sounds like a good one for the netflix queue.

[StartOrien]

I think I made that joke above in every Historical draft so far.

EDIT: Rondo, I was j/k'ng. He was only homesick in the movie "Blue Chips"

Oh, never saw it.  Never even heard of it actually, sounds like a good one for the netflix queue.

It's kind of terrible, though humorously so at some points.

[indeedproceed]

I think I made that joke above in every Historical draft so far.

EDIT: Rondo, I was j/k'ng. He was only homesick in the movie "Blue Chips"

Oh, never saw it.  Never even heard of it actually, sounds like a good one for the netflix queue.

You never saw Blue Chips? Ye gawds.

[Kane3387]

With the 11th pick in the third round the Thunder select the 2000-01 Version of Rasheed Wallace.

 Rd   Pk   Ovr#   Time      Team (GM)              
   3.      1      (33)      1:30 PM      Sixers (Who) Shawn Kemp
   3.      2      (34)      1:45 PM      Lakers (GreenFaith1819) Yao Ming
   3.      3      (35)      2:00 PM   KnicksNuggets Anfernee Hardaway
   3.      4      (36)      2:15 PM      Pacers (Celtic Fan Forever) Tyson Chandler
   3.      5      (37)      2:30 PM      Grizzlies (Dons)  Kevin Johnson      
   3.      6      (38)      2:45 PM      Hawks (wdleehi / Redz)        Deron Williams
   3.      7      (39)      3:00 PM      Mavericks (Moranis)  Derrick Rose  
   3.      8      (40)      3:15 PM   Clippers Spurs Elton Brand
   3.      9      (41)      3:30 PM      Celtics (KCattheStripe) Vince Carter    
   3.      10      (42)      3:45 PM      Bulls (33-00-32)  Brad Daugherty    
   3.      11      (43)      4:00 PM      Thunder (Kane3387)  Rasheed Wallace    
   3.      12      (44)      4:15 PM      Magic (syfy9)      
   3.      13      (45)      4:30 PM   Spurs Clippers
   3.      14      (46)      4:45 PM      Nuggets (Yoki)      
   3.      15      (47)      5:00 PM      Jazz (bdm860)      
   3.      16      (48)      5:15 PM      Heat (RebusRankin)

   

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 Rd   Pk   Ovr#   Time      Team (GM)               
   3.      1      (33)      1:30 PM      Sixers (Who) Shawn Kemp
   3.      2      (34)      1:45 PM      Lakers (GreenFaith1819) Yao Ming
   3.      3      (35)      2:00 PM   KnicksNuggets Anfernee Hardaway
   3.      4      (36)      2:15 PM      Pacers (Celtic Fan Forever) Tyson Chandler
   3.      5      (37)      2:30 PM      Grizzlies (Dons)  Kevin Johnson     
   3.      6      (38)      2:45 PM      Hawks (wdleehi / Redz)        Deron Williams
   3.      7      (39)      3:00 PM      Mavericks (Moranis)  Derrick Rose 
   3.      8      (40)      3:15 PM   Clippers Spurs Elton Brand
   3.      9      (41)      3:30 PM      Celtics (KCattheStripe) Vince Carter     
   3.      10      (42)      3:45 PM      Bulls (33-00-32)  Brad Daugherty   
   3.      11      (43)      4:00 PM      Thunder (Kane3387)  Rasheed Wallace   
   3.      12      (44)      4:15 PM      Magic (syfy9)  Manu Ginobli 
   3.      13      (45)      4:30 PM   Spurs Clippers
   3.      14      (46)      4:45 PM      Nuggets (Yoki)     
   3.      15      (47)      5:00 PM      Jazz (bdm860)     
   3.      16      (48)      5:15 PM      Heat (RebusRankin)