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nba players should be treated the same as nhl players...

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Metta World War + Pittman = Assault & Battery

nba players should be treated the same as nhl players...

You mean actual criminal charges?

I violently disagree.

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Metta World War + Pittman = Assault & Battery

nba players should be treated the same as nhl players...

You mean actual criminal charges?

I violently disagree.

Flagrantly?
Yup

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pre-meditated assault and battery is the same wherever you go...whether it is on the street...in the hood...on an nba court...on nhl ice...if this was not so...then...how and why are nhl players being prosecuted in court and nba players are not...that is a double standard...

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pre-meditated assault and battery is the same wherever you go...whether it is on the street...in the hood...on an nba court...on nhl ice...if this was not so...then...how and why are nhl players being prosecuted in court and nba players are not...that is a double standard...

You're talking about two main incidences in the last 20 years, neither of which have occurred within the last 8 years, and IIRC, both of which happened in Canada.

They're different sports, with different organizations, so I don't think they're by any means judged by the same standard, and, it happened in another country, AND both incidences resulted in grievous injury.

There is no double standard here, they're not remotely relevant.

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the fatal flaw in your logic...and...it could be fatal...you seem willing to wait for grievous injury...i'm not willing to wait for grievious injury...oh...let's just wait for grievious injury...or...better yet...death...that's a grand idea...

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the fatal flaw in your logic...and...it could be fatal...you seem willing to wait for grievous injury...i'm not willing to wait for grievious injury...oh...let's just wait for grievious injury...or...better yet...death...that's a grand idea...

Yup. I'll sit here and wait until someone in basketball dies on the court from an injury caused by an intentionally malicious dirty play. Its its happened before, right? And isn't the game definitely slanting more towards the physical, dirty play that could provoke another such incident?
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
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"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

kudos to roger goodell...he did not idly sit by and do nothing...

stern and his cronies should follow suit...

i'm sorry...i forgot...football is a different sport...so...it doesn't count...

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

kudos to roger goodell...he did not idly sit by and do nothing...

stern and his cronies should follow suit...

i'm sorry...i forgot...football is a different sport...so...it doesn't count...

haha are you aware that these are all sports? no need to quote whatever moonbat that was

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it's too bad you do not who edmund burke is...

it is only one of the most quoted quotes of all time...

moonbats unite!!!

lol...

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

kudos to roger goodell...he did not idly sit by and do nothing...

stern and his cronies should follow suit...

i'm sorry...i forgot...football is a different sport...so...it doesn't count...

First, I'm pretty sure Edmund Burke never said that.

Second, Roger Goodell has never to my knowledge advocated prosecuting players criminally for on the field actions. Even with the Saints bounty scandal, the NFL is not advocating pressing criminal charges against any players, and they're not advocating pressing charges on any of the coaches, unless I missed a critical news release.

When Albert Haynesworth stomped on Andre Guode's head, was he criminally prosecuted? Goodell didn't think so then.

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how much do you want to bet...google it right now...wow...that's all i can say...

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how much do you want to bet...google it right now...wow...that's all i can say...

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/12/04/good-men-do/

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

kudos to roger goodell...he did not idly sit by and do nothing...

stern and his cronies should follow suit...

i'm sorry...i forgot...football is a different sport...so...it doesn't count...

First, I'm pretty sure Edmund Burke never said that.

Second, Roger Goodell has never to my knowledge advocated prosecuting players criminally for on the field actions. Even with the Saints bounty scandal, the NFL is not advocating pressing criminal charges against any players, and they're not advocating pressing charges on any of the coaches, unless I missed a critical news release.

When Albert Haynesworth stomped on Andre Guode's head, was he criminally prosecuted? Goodell didn't think so then.

Stop giving Stern a free pass for not using his second job as Miami district attorney to prosecute these guys.   ;)

It's tough arguing against the Goodell fetish that a lot of fans seem to have.  How can you disagree with these kinds of results?

http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/

Look - only 44 arrests in the past year, and only 15 for violent offenses!  Guy runs a tight ship, players know they can't step out of line. 

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not bad...too bad you still miss the point...