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Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2012, 05:24:13 PM »

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Ray had a horrid game, but now he's a scrub? And people wonder why I never took them seriously when they bash JO. It basically proves the site will turn on any player at any time for any reason. It's kinda sad.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2012, 05:27:39 PM »

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bone spurs hurt. A lot.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2012, 05:28:41 PM »

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bone spurs hurt. A lot.

Then he shouldnt be playing if he cant play at a playoff level. A hurt Ray Allen brings nothing to this team.
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Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2012, 05:34:27 PM »

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bone spurs hurt. A lot.

Then he shouldnt be playing if he cant play at a playoff level. A hurt Ray Allen brings nothing to this team.

scored 17 the other night.

still spreads the floor.

Has good days and bad days.
Grab a few boards, keep the TO's under 14, close out on shooters and we'll win.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2012, 05:38:09 PM »

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  • You say when......

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/player/sasha-pavlovic/careerstats/141023?q=sasha-pavlovic

this guy can contribute....and give the team valuable minutes...look it up for those who haven't seen...but it isn't only him.....peitrus and md...and i care less for md....! but when your #1 choice is flat...he gotta sit.....

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2012, 05:39:54 PM »

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Ray had a horrid game, but now he's a scrub? And people wonder why I never took them seriously when they bash JO. It basically proves the site will turn on any player at any time for any reason. It's kinda sad.
I do NOT think Ray is a scrub.....he is an allstar..to me.....but when he has an off night....he should be played sparingly..to see if that helps......but i gotta get off this subject....it is making me mental..LOL...

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2012, 05:44:23 PM »

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SASHA CANNOT CONTRIBUTE.

HE'S BEEN ON THE TEAM FOR TWO SEASONS NOW, AND HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I don't care that you played or coach. That doesn't make you a good judge of talent. See Michael Jordan.

You feel the need to be the smartest guy in the room, so you create a theory in your head that will never happen, therefore you will never be wrong.

SASHA ******* PAVOLICH IS YOUR ANSWER? We might as well forfeit.

I don't care what he did 5 years ago in Cleveland. What has he done lately? Absolutely nothing. What has he done with the minutes he's been given? Absoltuely nothing.

End of story, game over. When your answer to our problem is Sasha ******* Pavolovic, you know you're trying to get too cute.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2012, 05:46:56 PM »

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Let's actually bring some facts into the conversation.  Ray so far in the playoffs:

29.9 MIN/G,
.449 FG%,
.286 3P%,
.600 FT%,
.9 STL/G
10.5 POINTS/G
4.4 RB/G

I'll admit it's a small sample size but those are scrub numbers. And for anybody that has watched, his defense has been awful.

I don't know if it injuries or age, but he doesn't belong on the floor, particularly against an athletic team like Philly.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2012, 05:48:46 PM »

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Let's actually bring some facts into the conversation.  Ray so far in the playoffs:

29.9 MIN/G,
.449 FG%,
.286 3P%,
.600 FT%,
.9 STL/G
10.5 POINTS/G
4.4 RB/G

I'll admit it's a small sample size but those are scrub numbers. And for anybody that has watched, his defense has been awful.

I don't know if it injuries or age, but he doesn't belong on the floor, particularly against an athletic team like Philly.

He was fine in game 1, really good in game 2.... His defense has been awful? False. Good? No. Ray Allen esque? Yes.

And you think the alternatives, Pietrus and Pavlovic are better options? Never.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2012, 07:06:43 PM »

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Ray's had one decent game against Philly, going 7-14 for 17 points in the Game 2 loss.  Overall, his offense this season has been tepid (36 points on 31 shots in 126 minutes).  Allen has been average to poor in every other facet of basketball besides shooting for a while now, and his play this series hasn't changed that.

Doc really doesn't have many other options, with AB playing with one arm, and the rest of the littles (Dooling, Sasha, Moore, and Quisy) marginal NBA players at best.

So Doc is going to play Ray 30 minutes and hope that, at a minimum, the threat of him catching fire from three will space the floor and allow opportunities for other, like in Game 3, when Ray got up only one shot in 25 minutes but the Cs had a huge game offensively.

I'm not going to disagree that Ray looks like a shell of his former self this series, but he's being a gamer.  I'd rather have Ray Allen hopping around on one leg than the alternatives at Doc's disposal right now.

 

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2012, 07:12:17 PM »

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Ray had a horrid game, but now he's a scrub? And people wonder why I never took them seriously when they bash JO. It basically proves the site will turn on any player at any time for any reason. It's kinda sad.

TP.  Yeah, it's really quite sad. 
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Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 07:20:10 PM »

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bone spurs hurt. A lot.

Then he shouldnt be playing if he cant play at a playoff level. A hurt Ray Allen brings nothing to this team.

  Maybe Doc should decide who to play. If all the players went up to Doc and said they can't play because they aren't fully healthy you'll be seeing a lot of Moore and JJJ and the like.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 07:27:26 PM »

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Horrid over reaction to a man that has given the last 5 years of his life for our enjoyment. Ray Allen is hurt and doing everything he can to help this team. Perhaps a modicum of respect should be shown here.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 07:36:15 PM »

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People sure have a short memory, a lack of respect, and originality when they start new posts.  Sure RA has lost a step, he is injured, isn't anywhere near 100%.  But he is out there, giving it his all just like the rest of them.

Have a little respect for our players, and lighten up on RA.  All of the C's want to win and play well.  This kind of negativity doesn't help.

Re: Ray Allen Is An Abosolute, Certified Scrub At This Point
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2012, 07:36:43 PM »

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Horrid over reaction to a man that has given the last 5 years of his life for our enjoyment. Ray Allen is hurt and doing everything he can to help this team. Perhaps a modicum of respect should be shown here.

Thank you.  Well said.
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