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Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2012, 09:44:34 AM »

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i really knew this was coming, with all those overflowing egos and an overrated coach, it's only a matter of time..they are brilliant in paper, at best...
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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2012, 09:47:29 AM »

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I don't see Melo going anywhere but if he did, perhaps a deal to the Lakers for Bynum and change then have Bynum flipped with Amare to Orlando for Dwight and pieces.

Dwight gets to be in NY with Lin and a few other pieces.  Not great for the Knicks but Orlando would do ok with getting Bynum and Amare for Dwight.

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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2012, 09:48:13 AM »

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Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

He's not fat.

Reminds me of my favorite Mike Tyson quote:

“[He] called me a ‘rapist’ and a ‘recluse.’ I’m not a recluse.”

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2012, 09:48:39 AM »

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As long as he's not in Boston I'm happy.

Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

I don't care if he can shoot 45%... So can a lot of others.

Amen.  Melo is never going to win anything.  The Knicks were much better before the Melo trade.  If they had Lin and the pre-Melo team, they'd be running away with the Atlantic Division.

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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2012, 10:05:15 AM »

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Don't blame Melo if this is true. I'd be disgusted with the franchise right now, too.  With my coach for misusing me, with my GM for not firing him in the offseason like he should have... and with New York fans for modifying their Melo jerseys by taping over "Anthony" with "Lin" and adding a 1 to "7" to create Lin's #17... Also be disgusted with my fans for blasting radio stations that "Melo should be traded.  He's a cancer.  We have Lin now" ... after all I did to manipulate my way there and save your garbage LeBron-less franchise, this is how you repay me??...  

Melo is the savior of that franchise and they are treating him like he's some kind of bum... all because a d-leaguer had an improbable 11 game stretch in a lockout-shortened-season that made him look like a poor man's Raymond Felton (who averaged 17 points, 9 assists and 1.8 steals last year in D'Antoni's system and lead the Knicks through a 14 game stretch where they won 13 games... including 8 in a row... all the while averaging 20+ points, 10+ assists, 4+ rebounds, 2.5 steals, 46% shooting.  Why you no remember Feltonsanity, Knicks fans?)

And btw, I don't mean to suggest Melo is jealous of Lin or can't play with him.  From what I hear, Lin and him get along.  I'd more just be disgruntled with how the media and fans are treating me, if I were him.  Thankless bunch of dillweeds.

Offer them Pierce and both 1st rounders.  It'd be a coup.  



And there is LarBrd33 again. In a Carmelo thread bashing Lin! You couldn't help yourself right?

Carmelo is highly overrated first and foremost interested in his own stats. A spoiled brat, always playing in LJ shadow!

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2012, 10:07:12 AM »

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Plus, if this is true, Melo has GOT to realize how bad this looks.

He leaves a very good team in DEN, with a GREAT Coach in Karl...that DEN team has played better without him.

Now? Rinse and repeat, unfortunately....a very good team in NY, with, YES - a GREAT Coach in D'Antoni....if he leaves, then NY would be left with Amar'e (who'd get more touches, which I bet would be a better thing for that team)...JR Smith, Chandler, Lin, B-Diddy, Landry Fields and Novak. Still a very good team, except they'd have a borderline superstar in Amar'e and a top 5 Center overall left in Tyson.

I know some may question my use of GREAT coaches, but BOTH of these guys led their respective teams deep in playoffs before. Karl has had a bit more success, with leading SEA to the Finals vs CHI back in the day. Mike has won Coach of the Year, too.

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2012, 10:07:32 AM »

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Don't blame Melo if this is true. I'd be disgusted with the franchise right now, too.  With my coach for misusing me, with my GM for not firing him in the offseason like he should have... and with New York fans for modifying their Melo jerseys by taping over "Anthony" with "Lin" and adding a 1 to "7" to create Lin's #17... Also be disgusted with my fans for blasting radio stations that "Melo should be traded.  He's a cancer.  We have Lin now" ... after all I did to manipulate my way there and save your garbage LeBron-less franchise, this is how you repay me??...  

Melo is the savior of that franchise and they are treating him like he's some kind of bum... all because a d-leaguer had an improbable 11 game stretch in a lockout-shortened-season that made him look like a poor man's Raymond Felton (who averaged 17 points, 9 assists and 1.8 steals last year in D'Antoni's system and lead the Knicks through a 14 game stretch where they won 13 games... including 8 in a row... all the while averaging 20+ points, 10+ assists, 4+ rebounds, 2.5 steals, 46% shooting.  Why you no remember Feltonsanity, Knicks fans?)

And btw, I don't mean to suggest Melo is jealous of Lin or can't play with him.  From what I hear, Lin and him get along.  I'd more just be disgruntled with how the media and fans are treating me, if I were him.  Thankless bunch of dillweeds.

Offer them Pierce and both 1st rounders.  It'd be a coup.  


Melo misuses himself. It isn't his coach's fault.

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »

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His agent just denied it. He's not going anywhere.
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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2012, 10:14:41 AM »

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Don't blame Melo if this is true. I'd be disgusted with the franchise right now, too.  With my coach for misusing me, with my GM for not firing him in the offseason like he should have... and with New York fans for modifying their Melo jerseys by taping over "Anthony" with "Lin" and adding a 1 to "7" to create Lin's #17... Also be disgusted with my fans for blasting radio stations that "Melo should be traded.  He's a cancer.  We have Lin now" ... after all I did to manipulate my way there and save your garbage LeBron-less franchise, this is how you repay me??...  

Melo is the savior of that franchise and they are treating him like he's some kind of bum... all because a d-leaguer had an improbable 11 game stretch in a lockout-shortened-season that made him look like a poor man's Raymond Felton (who averaged 17 points, 9 assists and 1.8 steals last year in D'Antoni's system and lead the Knicks through a 14 game stretch where they won 13 games... including 8 in a row... all the while averaging 20+ points, 10+ assists, 4+ rebounds, 2.5 steals, 46% shooting.  Why you no remember Feltonsanity, Knicks fans?)

And btw, I don't mean to suggest Melo is jealous of Lin or can't play with him.  From what I hear, Lin and him get along.  I'd more just be disgruntled with how the media and fans are treating me, if I were him.  Thankless bunch of dillweeds.

Offer them Pierce and both 1st rounders.  It'd be a coup.  



And there is LarBrd33 again. In a Carmelo thread bashing Lin! You couldn't help yourself right?
I have a track record of creating really long-winded, verbose, and incredibly error-filled posts stating my points... the more ellipsis the better...  and then shoehorning ultra-condensed versions of them in every thread I find.  I should get points for self-awareness and staying in character.  Also, I'm fairly certain Bill Simmons is stalking me.    

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2012, 10:15:56 AM »

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Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

He's not fat.

Fine, he is unfit. Better? Its true.

Begin Rant

He has the same level of muscle tone that Paul Pierce has and he is 7 years his junior. That shows me a complete lack of commitment to working out and being an elite athlete, despite being paid like one. For proof see his minutes. For a guy who is the star of the team, why is he only averaging 34 minutes per?

He is behind guys like Javale Mcgee and Monta Ellis in overall efficiency rating despite both of those guys collectively earning about 13 million this year and he is on 18 million plus alone.

Currently in field goal percentage he is ranked below such esteemed small forward names as Marvin Williams, Donte Green, and Linas Kleiza.

Despite these struggles and being part of one of the most high powered offensive teams in the league (when you look at the knicks' personnel), melo still manages to jack up the 3rd most field goal attempts per game at the small forward spot. So when he scores in high numbers, its due to a quantity of shots, rather than a quality.

To top it all off in the space of one season, he has managed to completely choke and destroy all of the drive and offensive force that Stoudemire brought to that team. Stat was blowing teams out of the water with his offensive performances before melo arrived, and at the moment he isnt getting the shots he deserves. See the last two minutes of the bulls game, where stat was on fire offensively, and got completely frozen out by his teammates, including melo, who decided to hoist contested corner long 2 pointers instead of finding the man that kept his team in the game.

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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2012, 10:16:07 AM »

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I do blame D'Antoni some for never benching Melo when Melo refused to play within the system. I seem to remember Doc benching Pierce early on for the same thing. Doc left no alternative but to submit to his system. Melo has not done so and there have been no repercussions within the organization. It is only the fans and the press that are calling him out for this.

It takes a strong coach to deal with strong-willed players whose instincts are to play a selfish game.

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2012, 10:17:17 AM »

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Lol @ Melo being the Knicks savior. They were fine before they gutted their team for him. They were fine during the stretch he sat out. Denver is fine now that he's gone. But Melo is the savior. Right.

I have never seen a more overrated player in my life and I'm glad the world is starting to see what I've seen for years. He can score lots of points when he takes lots of shots. And???

The Knicks should trade him. They can do no worse without him than they're doing with him. Only problem is they're never going to get back what they gave up for him. His trade value has gone done drastically.

Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2012, 10:31:05 AM »

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As long as he's not in Boston I'm happy.

Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

I don't care if he can shoot 45%... So can a lot of others.

He's Pierce 10 yrs ago... They were saying the same things about Paul after the World Champs in Indy... Would give up almost any combo of guys on our roster for him. He's easily the #1 scorer on a title team... There's only a few of those around. He's acting like a brat now for sure. But surrounded by the right supporting cast, you could win a title with this guy as your go to crunch time scorer. It took Pierce teaming up with KG to get him to the next level. Carmelo needs his KG....


It's too bad but without a third team we do not have the assets to get Melo!
Melo in Boston would be fun. 
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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2012, 10:32:53 AM »

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According to Chris Broussard:

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When Anthony first returned -- and it still appears to be the case -- Lin would bring the ball upcourt and try to run D'Antoni's system. When Anthony would abandon the offense, Lin would not pass him the ball, which irritated Anthony, sources said. So when Lin tried to talk to Anthony on the court, Anthony would turn his back to the point guard and tune him out. The two never had heated exchanges, though, and the players tried to come to a compromise, agreeing to run D'Antoni's system while also mixing in post-ups for Anthony.

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Some players believe D'Antoni had the leverage to force Anthony to adjust to his system when he first returned from injury. The Knicks were rolling, showing they could win without Anthony, and their fan base was believing in D'Antoni's system. If D'Antoni had checked Anthony, perhaps even benching him, when he strayed from the offense, the players and fans would have been behind the coach and Anthony would have had no choice but to conform. But D'Antoni, ever the one to avoid confrontation with his players, would not do it, and now it's too late. That's when he lost the locker room for good.

The article also says that Carmelo Anthony refuses to consistently do what he is supposed to on defense (defense on a Mike D'Antoni team?) despite knowing what he is supposed to be doing, unlike Amare Stoudemire.

I think the Knicks will probably get a new coach who will install a different offense and give that most of a year before they start seriously thinking about trading Melo, but there are people in management who are already inclined that way.  Maybe they will give a lot of money to Jeremy Lin, then go with an offense that is ill-suited for his talents.  That sounds like the Knicks way.
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Re: Melo asking out of NY?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2012, 10:37:19 AM »

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I think they're going to fire D'Antoni and use that as the excuse going into next year