Melo asking out of NY?

[Chris]

He doesn't want out of NY, he wants D'Antoni out...and rightfully so.  He is an arrogant (something), and his coaching style is a bad fit for the roster.

Anthony is not going anywhere, but I think the Knicks could make some significant changes to the roster, and will certainly have a new coach within the next 6 months.

[Fafnir]

I do blame D'Antoni some for never benching Melo when Melo refused to play within the system. I seem to remember Doc benching Pierce early on for the same thing. Doc left no alternative but to submit to his system. Melo has not done so and there have been no repercussions within the organization. It is only the fans and the press that are calling him out for this.

It takes a strong coach to deal with strong-willed players whose instincts are to play a selfish game.

I don't think D'Antoni felt/feels (and rightly so) he has the ownership and GM support to take that sort of hard line with Melo.

[soap07]

He has the same level of muscle tone that Paul Pierce has and he is 7 years his junior. That shows me a complete lack of commitment to working out and being an elite athlete, despite being paid like one. For proof see his minutes. For a guy who is the star of the team, why is he only averaging 34 minutes per?

Paul Pierce has the same muscle tone he had 7 years ago. This doesn't make much sense to be honest. And as far as not having
the minutes per game, he's averaged 36 minutes a game for his career...while playing in a fast break system his whole career. That's a lot. Again, I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.

[Fafnir]

He has the same level of muscle tone that Paul Pierce has and he is 7 years his junior. That shows me a complete lack of commitment to working out and being an elite athlete, despite being paid like one. For proof see his minutes. For a guy who is the star of the team, why is he only averaging 34 minutes per?

Paul Pierce has the same muscle tone he had 7 years ago. This doesn't make much sense to be honest. And as far as not having
the minutes per game, he's averaged 36 minutes a game for his career...while playing in a fast break system his whole career. That's a lot. Again, I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make.

I don't know if he's out of shape, but he plays lazy especially on defense. That's a problem and costs his teams wins every year.

[GrandTheftRondo]

They'll eventually fire D'antoni...but then what happens when the Knicks still suck?

D'antoni is a problem but he's not THE problem.

The Knicks are going to be an interesting team to follow in the next year or so. Off the court moreso than on though.

[guava_wrench]

As long as he's not in Boston I'm happy.

Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

I don't care if he can shoot 45%... So can a lot of others.

He's Pierce 10 yrs ago... They were saying the same things about Paul after the World Champs in Indy... Would give up almost any combo of guys on our roster for him. He's easily the #1 scorer on a title team... There's only a few of those around. He's acting like a brat now for sure. But surrounded by the right supporting cast, you could win a title with this guy as your go to crunch time scorer. It took Pierce teaming up with KG to get him to the next level. Carmelo needs his KG....

It's too bad but without a third team we do not have the assets to get Melo!
Melo in Boston would be fun. 
He's one of the few players that you fear with the ball.  On any night.

I fear Monta Ellis more, but I wouldn't want Ellis on my team.

Same approach to the game though. Pass on both.

I also don't fear Melo. I trust him to take dumb shots to hurt his team. I felt the same way when he has in Denver. I would only fear him if Pierce and Pietrus are both injured.

[guava_wrench]

They'll eventually fire D'antoni...but then what happens when the Knicks still suck?

D'antoni is a problem but he's not THE problem.

The Knicks are going to be an interesting team to follow in the next year or so. Off the court moreso than on though.

I feel D'Antoni is only a problem because the acquired Melo, and I felt this way when the trade rumors were circulating. Melo can't play in a system like that because he doesn't want to. Perhaps a stronger coach could get him in line.

As much as I don't like Melo, I expect the Knicks would be better with a different coach because a lesser system that everyone buys into is better than a great system that your 'star' player doesn't buy into, even if he is grossly overrated.

[guava_wrench]

Could it be that the best quality of Lin is not his ability to play, but his willingness to actually implement D'Antoni's system?

[GrandTheftRondo]

As long as he's not in Boston I'm happy.

Fat, overrated, cancerous presence for a basketball team to handle.

I don't care if he can shoot 45%... So can a lot of others.

He's Pierce 10 yrs ago... They were saying the same things about Paul after the World Champs in Indy... Would give up almost any combo of guys on our roster for him. He's easily the #1 scorer on a title team... There's only a few of those around. He's acting like a brat now for sure. But surrounded by the right supporting cast, you could win a title with this guy as your go to crunch time scorer. It took Pierce teaming up with KG to get him to the next level. Carmelo needs his KG....

It's too bad but without a third team we do not have the assets to get Melo!
Melo in Boston would be fun. 
He's one of the few players that you fear with the ball.  On any night.

I fear Monta Ellis more, but I wouldn't want Ellis on my team.

Same approach to the game though. Pass on both.

I also don't fear Melo. I trust him to take dumb shots to hurt his team. I felt the same way when he has in Denver. I would only fear him if Pierce and Pietrus are both injured.

I don't fear him either. Same way I don't fear Lebron. I fear Kobe. Kevin Durant. Even Jason Terry more than I fear Carmelo lol

[indeedproceed]

Could it be that the best quality of Lin is not his ability to play, but his willingness to actually implement D'Antoni's system?

Its an interesting thought that passes the smell test.

[Fafnir]

Could it be that the best quality of Lin is not his ability to play, but his willingness to actually implement D'Antoni's system?

You could phrase it that way, he's a good pick and roll player which is what D'Antoni's system is based upon.

[syfy9]

Don't blame Melo if this is true. I'd be disgusted with the franchise right now, too.  With my coach for misusing me, with my GM for not firing him in the offseason like he should have... and with New York fans for modifying their Melo jerseys by taping over "Anthony" with "Lin" and adding a 1 to "7" to create Lin's #17... Also be disgusted with my fans for blasting radio stations that "Melo should be traded.  He's a cancer.  We have Lin now" ... after all I did to manipulate my way there and save your garbage LeBron-less franchise, this is how you repay me??...  

Melo is the savior of that franchise and they are treating him like he's some kind of bum... all because a d-leaguer had an improbable 11 game stretch in a lockout-shortened-season that made him look like a poor man's Raymond Felton (who averaged 17 points, 9 assists and 1.8 steals last year in D'Antoni's system and lead the Knicks through a 14 game stretch where they won 13 games... including 8 in a row... all the while averaging 20+ points, 10+ assists, 4+ rebounds, 2.5 steals, 46% shooting.  Why you no remember Feltonsanity, Knicks fans?)

And btw, I don't mean to suggest Melo is jealous of Lin or can't play with him.  From what I hear, Lin and him get along.  I'd more just be disgruntled with how the media and fans are treating me, if I were him.  Thankless bunch of dillweeds.

Offer them Pierce and both 1st rounders.  It'd be a coup.  

The Knicks were doing just fine without him...They had Galiinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, and Amare, which is a very good core. They were better off without Melo, in my opinion.

[indeedproceed]

The Knicks were doing just fine without him...They had Galiinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, and Amare, which is a very good core. They were better off without Melo, in my opinion.

They were about .500, IIRC. They've been about .500 since. They're doing about the same.

[Fafnir]

The Knicks were doing just fine without him...They had Galiinari, Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, and Amare, which is a very good core. They were better off without Melo, in my opinion.

They were about .500, IIRC. They've been about .500 since. They're doing about the same.

If anything it has been Amar'es decline that has hurt the team.

Part of that is that he looks slower this year, another part is that he's no longer playing C with a lineup full of shooters to open up the paint for him.

[clover]

His agent just denied it. He's not going anywhere.
http://rotoworld.com/player/nba/929/carmelo-anthony

Did his agent actually deny the report--or just refer to it as 'laughable'?