The blame of Rondo is getting ridiculous..

[vinnie]

Where are the people putting the blame on Rondo? It's like this thread is replying to no one, or at most 2 or 3 loons who think Rondo is the reason they lost tonight.

Go to the game thread.

I was in the game thread. What were there, 2 or 3 people blaming Rondo? Clearly those are people who don't like the guy. I just see this thread as an overreaction to a couple of anti-Rondo posters. Just my opinion. Anyone blaming Rondo tonight clearly knows nothing about basketball.

[Rtpas11]

I think you all are missing the critical point about Rajon Rondo.

We're not blaming him, we're simply stating the obvious. I don't think we all watch the same game, if you can't see what we see when he plays. 1st of all stats don't matter unless you're winning games. Look at Jeremy Lin for example: Statistically he's not that great being a point guard because of his turnovers. Averaging about 7 TO a game in his last 7 games, but he's WINNING! He's not winning because he's better than Rondo, he has better players or even has better coaching. He's winning because he does what he needs to in order to make his team win. Rondo pad stats and wants to prove to the world that he's the best point guard.

Anyhow this isn't about Rondo stats... its about his ability to execute when it matters most. For 4 years now we've been talking about his horrid jump shot... why hasn't he worked on another form of shot...like a floater (D. Rose, Sherman Dougls, Allen Iverson) etc...

Lastly I don't blame him for this either, but why is Doc leaving him in games to close out knowingly teams will only collapse on the wings & bigs in the paint to force Rondo to make a jump shot. Honestly i'm amazed more teams don't play like the Mavs when they play the Celtics and just zone up and force Rondo to beat them. The Celtics are too easy to beat with a player like Rondo dominating the posessions. When a player like Pierce dominated the posessions (previously to Rondo coming back from injury) Its a different ball game. Pierce is unpredictable & Rondo is very predictable.

There you have it, we're not blaming him or saying he's not good. He's just not a good fit for what this team needs.

Allen Iverson C'mon Down!!!

[ejk3489]

I think you all are missing the critical point about Rajon Rondo.

We're not blaming him, we're simply stating the obvious. I don't think we all watch the same game, if you can't see what we see when he plays. 1st of all stats don't matter unless you're winning games. Look at Jeremy Lin for example: Statistically he's not that great being a point guard because of his turnovers. Averaging about 7 TO a game in his last 7 games, but he's WINNING! He's not winning because he's better than Rondo, he has better players or even has better coaching. He's winning because he does what he needs to in order to make his team win. Rondo pad stats and wants to prove to the world that he's the best point guard.

Anyhow this isn't about Rondo stats... its about his ability to execute when it matters most. For 4 years now we've been talking about his horrid jump shot... why hasn't he worked on another form of shot...like a floater (D. Rose, Sherman Dougls, Allen Iverson) etc...

Lastly I don't blame him for this either, but why is Doc leaving him in games to close out knowingly teams will only collapse on the wings & bigs in the paint to force Rondo to make a jump shot. Honestly i'm amazed more teams don't play like the Mavs when they play the Celtics and just zone up and force Rondo to beat them. The Celtics are too easy to beat with a player like Rondo dominating the posessions. When a player like Pierce dominated the posessions (previously to Rondo coming back from injury) Its a different ball game. Pierce is unpredictable & Rondo is very predictable.

There you have it, we're not blaming him or saying he's not good. He's just not a good fit for what this team needs.

Allen Iverson C'mon Down!!!

LOL so your solution to our problems is to sign Iverson?! The guy whose been out of the league since 2010 and last averaged 14 points and 4 assists on 41% shooting?

[blink]

Iverson?  really?  or was that sarcastic?  I hope so.  AI isn't a pro level player right now anymore than larry bird is. 

I think you all are missing the critical point about Rajon Rondo.

We're not blaming him, we're simply stating the obvious. I don't think we all watch the same game, if you can't see what we see when he plays. 1st of all stats don't matter unless you're winning games. Look at Jeremy Lin for example: Statistically he's not that great being a point guard because of his turnovers. Averaging about 7 TO a game in his last 7 games, but he's WINNING! He's not winning because he's better than Rondo, he has better players or even has better coaching. He's winning because he does what he needs to in order to make his team win. Rondo pad stats and wants to prove to the world that he's the best point guard.

Anyhow this isn't about Rondo stats... its about his ability to execute when it matters most. For 4 years now we've been talking about his horrid jump shot... why hasn't he worked on another form of shot...like a floater (D. Rose, Sherman Dougls, Allen Iverson) etc...

Lastly I don't blame him for this either, but why is Doc leaving him in games to close out knowingly teams will only collapse on the wings & bigs in the paint to force Rondo to make a jump shot. Honestly i'm amazed more teams don't play like the Mavs when they play the Celtics and just zone up and force Rondo to beat them. The Celtics are too easy to beat with a player like Rondo dominating the posessions. When a player like Pierce dominated the posessions (previously to Rondo coming back from injury) Its a different ball game. Pierce is unpredictable & Rondo is very predictable.

There you have it, we're not blaming him or saying he's not good. He's just not a good fit for what this team needs.

Allen Iverson C'mon Down!!!

[ejk3489]

BTW here are Rondo's stats from the last two games: 67 points, 21 assists, 15 rebounds and six steals.

[soap07]

I think you all are missing the critical point about Rajon Rondo.

We're not blaming him, we're simply stating the obvious. I don't think we all watch the same game, if you can't see what we see when he plays. 1st of all stats don't matter unless you're winning games. Look at Jeremy Lin for example: Statistically he's not that great being a point guard because of his turnovers. Averaging about 7 TO a game in his last 7 games, but he's WINNING! He's not winning because he's better than Rondo, he has better players or even has better coaching. He's winning because he does what he needs to in order to make his team win. Rondo pad stats and wants to prove to the world that he's the best point guard.

Anyhow this isn't about Rondo stats... its about his ability to execute when it matters most. For 4 years now we've been talking about his horrid jump shot... why hasn't he worked on another form of shot...like a floater (D. Rose, Sherman Dougls, Allen Iverson) etc...

Lastly I don't blame him for this either, but why is Doc leaving him in games to close out knowingly teams will only collapse on the wings & bigs in the paint to force Rondo to make a jump shot. Honestly i'm amazed more teams don't play like the Mavs when they play the Celtics and just zone up and force Rondo to beat them. The Celtics are too easy to beat with a player like Rondo dominating the posessions. When a player like Pierce dominated the posessions (previously to Rondo coming back from injury) Its a different ball game. Pierce is unpredictable & Rondo is very predictable.

There you have it, we're not blaming him or saying he's not good. He's just not a good fit for what this team needs.

Allen Iverson C'mon Down!!!

This is the best troll post I've seen here in a couple weeks. Subtle, but effective.

[celtics2]

Lin has gotta hurt Rondo's ego.

[Rtpas11]

Here we go again... You missed the point of my previous post. I stated its not about stats and what do you guys immediately respond with... RONDO STATS!!! Even Rondo said it that their still 1-1 based on his last 2 performance. Truth be told this team should 0-2 based on his last 2 performance. We barely beat the bulls without their starting/mvp all-star point guard. They also did not have their starting shooting guard.

I don't care if Rondo scores 100 points & has 50 assists & 20 steals.. if the score board says Bos 100 CLE 101 We still lost. Stats mean nothing. Ivesron could shoot terrible on this team but still be more effective than Rondo because of his presence. We all know not to leave A.I. ever open so this will help the burden attentions on Pierce & Ray. A.I. is not predictable, Rose is not predictable. Rondo is good just not for this team or at least use him for the start but add Iverson to be our closer. A.I. is still legit don't sleep on him.

[greenlion]

as it is, basketball is a team sport, any sensible person who knows or at least plays the game would know the difference..so many aspects contribute to its success or failures, pinning blame on particulars doesn't really sum up the whole..

[crownsy]

Here we go again... You missed the point of my previous post. I stated its not about stats and what do you guys immediately respond with... RONDO STATS!!! Even Rondo said it that their still 1-1 based on his last 2 performance. Truth be told this team should 0-2 based on his last 2 performance. We barely beat the bulls without their starting/mvp all-star point guard. They also did not have their starting shooting guard.

I don't care if Rondo scores 100 points & has 50 assists & 20 steals.. if the score board says Bos 100 CLE 101 We still lost. Stats mean nothing. Ivesron could shoot terrible on this team but still be more effective than Rondo because of his presence. We all know not to leave A.I. ever open so this will help the burden attentions on Pierce & Ray. A.I. is not predictable, Rose is not predictable. Rondo is good just not for this team or at least use him for the start but add Iverson to be our closer. A.I. is still legit don't sleep on him.

1) leave A.I open was pretty much the standard strategy for the lst 2-3 years of his career. he shot a awful percentage, yet kept shooting. why wouldn't you leave him open?

2) your boy Lin has some pretty crazy stats....if he wasen't scoring 28 a night the knicks would be sunk.

[Celtics4ever]

Rondo isn't the reason we lost last night.  For the most part he was on fire and kept us in the game.   O'Neal is shot.   PP and RA didn't show.  I know the ball movement was not that great but that is on Doc not Rondo.  We let them score 98 points is the reason we lost.  We let a bad team play well against us probably looking ahead to Chi-town.

AI is washed up.  He is the Puerto Rico league now.   If he had something in the tank don't you think the Clippers would have called when Billups went down or the Knicks before they tried Lin?

[CelticsFanNC]

  Don't like the fact the Pierce didn't get enough touches?  Don't blame that on Rondo blame it on Pierce for loafing up the court and hanging around the 3pt line all night long.

  Pierce was lazy last night.  I know, I know....he is the sacred cow around here.  That is BS.  He played like crap and i'm not afraid to say it.  When guys run with Rondo the get the ball.  When they walk up the court and hang out at the 3pt line they don't.  He put in about a 50% effort and that is not tolerable.

  What to know why we lost.  The best defensive team in the NBA gave up 98 point to the Pistons.  Ray's man lit us up in the 4th quarter.  That is lack of effort and has nothing to do with rondo because he was one of about 3 guys who showed up last night ready to play.

[BballTim]

Yep. Rondo has got to be the only player who can put up 35 points on 55% shooting and get blamed for a team's loss.

Don't lump everyone in the same sack... I don't blame him for the loss. I just point out that as great as he played if he's trying to carry us we will lose much more than we win. When your PG is your best offensive threat, it takes everyone else out of it because it never gets in anyone else's
hands. To win a championship you have to have your studs be at the 3,4, or 5.

  Jordan, Wade and Kobe said hello. Magic, Isiah and Chauncey told them they're wasting their breath.

[CelticG1]

For Rondo supporters, generally what I hear is that Rondo gives the team what it needs, he runs the offense, gets guys involved, hes not asked to.shoot etc etc.

My question for you is are you happy with his play last night? Or does it give you a chance to turn to "Rondo haters" and say, "thats why he shouldn't take over games, because we are better when he is getting other guys involved"

Were you happy with his game or were you mad that he want getting others involved?

[CelticsFanNC]

For Rondo supporters, generally what I hear is that Rondo gives the team what it needs, he runs the offense, gets guys involved, hes not asked to.shoot etc etc.

My question for you is are you happy with his play last night? Or does it give you a chance to turn to "Rondo haters" and say, "thats why he shouldn't take over games, because we are better when he is getting other guys involved"

Were you happy with his game or were you mad that he want getting others involved?

  I personally was happy with his game because other then Wilcox no one else played hard.  Pierce was walking up and down the court and hanging out at the 3pt line like he is 45 years old.  The defense was terrible all game long.

  Rondo wasn't even in the game when it was decided.  Pierce was running the offense during a stretch early in the 4th quarter when this game was decided.  He turned the ball over a couple of times and forced a couple of terrible shots.  This led directly to the run that gave the Pistons a lead we would never recover from.  By the time Rondo was reinserted into the game we were down double digits.

  Rondo did all he could do.  Other then Wilcox he got very little help.