We can kill the Mashon Brooks talks now

[Roy H.]

So if JJJ is better why is he buried behind Steamy on the bench? Etwaun isn't.

Call me crazy, but could it be because they all play different positions, and because they've got different players in front of them?

One guy has the perpetually injured Jermaine O'Neal in front of him.  The other has KG, Bass, and Wilcox.  The third has...  Avery Bradley right now.

With all due respect, that's not even a serious argument.

I agree. PF position (considering health) has got to be our most solid position at the moment

Oh I didn't realize a first round pick and recent Big Ten defensive and Big Ten player of the year with cat like quickness and a good outside shot couldn't be expected to beat out a slower untalented career d leaguer at the center position in both their rookie years in the league

This is why folks sometimes accuse you of hyperbole and/or baiting, eja.  You dang well know that power forward ≠ center, but you're pretending otherwise.  You're better / smarter than that.

You're fully capable of making a legit argument, but you're playing silly games here.  I mean, seriously?  E'Twaun Moore gets minutes, so that means that JuJuan Johnson sucks?  Why even waste everyone's time typing that?  You hold legitimate opinions, so back them up with logic, rather than nonsense.

[southshorematt]

Jujuan will be a beast in 3 years. I love his game


steal of the draft

[GreenFaith1819]

.....but I thought we already did?

For me, E'twaun broke out in that ORL game with those important 16 pts.

JJ? he has many more games like tonight in him. Granted, it was a blowout, but his time is coming, too.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

It may be a garbage time but man, 5/5 from JJJ. So can you still say that our pick won't be a factor? He didn't get attention because he barely make it on the rotation.

No offense or anything but if you've been won over by 10 minutes of garbage time it doesn't take much to impress you.  Marshon has played real minutes against first units.

And played great. He might not have the same amount of playing time here compare to NJ, but knowing that we have a up and coming legit scorer (and an efficient one) in the next two years instead of a solid power forward is probably a much better thing for me.

[Surferdad]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

[Chris]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

[Change]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

Channing Frye 7foot Ray Allen. Pshht Jajuan has nice post game. Did you see his turnover J? it reminiscent of KG's.

[dtrader]

I'd trade JJJ for Marshon in a nano second

Maybe I'm a blind optimist, but I'm willing to gamble on JJ.

Me too.  I have no idea if JJ will be a player, but I love his attitude and work ethic, and I have a lot of questions about Brooks.  

The fact that Brooks said he modeled his game on Jamal Crawford's was enough of a red flag to me.

Can't really call it a fact, when he never said it.  He said, that he's heard comparisons (from other people) to Crawford in terms of his ball handling ability.  Only player I've ever heard Brooks say he modeled his game after, was Kobe.

[Surferdad]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

It's fair to say JJ's upside is higher than Mikki Moore.  How about Boris Diaw with a better jump shot?

[Celtics18]

JJJ played great today, but he isnt on Marshons level yet.

The issue with JJJ IMO was never his offense...its his defense.  He's not strong enough to hold down the paint.  That was just as apparent as his prowess on offense today, as Ed Davis was able to push him wherever he wanted.

Marshon is NBA ready on both ends.

Are you kidding?  JJ's an Ed Davis stopper.

[dtrader]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

It's fair to say JJ's upside is higher than Mikki Moore.  How about Boris Diaw with a better jump shot?

Unless he starts knocking down 3's and making plays with his passing/court vision, I wouldnt compare him to Diaw.

[Celtics18]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

It's fair to say JJ's upside is higher than Mikki Moore.  How about Boris Diaw with a better jump shot?

Unless he starts knocking down 3's and making plays with his passing/court vision, I wouldnt compare him to Diaw.

. . . and gains a hundred pounds.

[Surferdad]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

It's fair to say JJ's upside is higher than Mikki Moore.  How about Boris Diaw with a better jump shot?

Unless he starts knocking down 3's and making plays with his passing/court vision, I wouldnt compare him to Diaw.

. . . and gains a hundred pounds.

Hoopshype lists Diaw as 6-8 and 215lbs.  It's not comparison right now, but just possible future upside.

[Celtics18]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

How about this, lets start with Channing Frye, and go from there.  Right now, he still needs to pass Mikki Moore first.

It's fair to say JJ's upside is higher than Mikki Moore.  How about Boris Diaw with a better jump shot?

Unless he starts knocking down 3's and making plays with his passing/court vision, I wouldnt compare him to Diaw.

. . . and gains a hundred pounds.

Hoopshype lists Diaw as 6-8 and 215lbs.  It's not comparison right now, but just possible future upside.

Diaw's no 215.  I was just making a joke, but it's a really poor comparison.  Diaw's a heady player, but nowhere near the athlete that JaJuan Johnson is.

[ianboyextreme]

We'll be lucky if this kid approaches Bosh's level, let alone KG's.

Well, if he ever approaches Bosh's level, he will have far surpassed Brooks.  

Me, I'll be happy if he turns into Nick Collison.  That's probably still equally as valuable to a team as Brooks is.

I can see some McHale in his jumper.  He's got room on that frame for more muscle, and play the 4.

I see that McHale too. Hes gonna be good. If he can get some of those McHale post moves, hes gonna be serious serious.