The clippers pick from the perk trade was smart

[wdleehi]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2). 

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick. 

Green plus 24 is greater than an 8 million trade exception.

There is no Green.

[Moranis]

Deep draft or not, it's more likely than not that the 24th pick fails to contribute much of value.  I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you'll never convince me that it was worth trading Perk for a late 1st rounder.  Heck, Semih + Harangody landed almost as much (a future Minnesota #2).  

Worst case scenario, we would have landed a large cap exception for Perk.  I'd say an $8 million exception is worth as much as that #24 pick.  

Green plus 24 is greater than an 8 million trade exception.

If people are projecting that Perk never would have re-signed in Boston (or that Danny wouldn't have signed him) I think it's fair to similarly argue that Green never had a long-term future with the Celtics.  Thus, why he was offered a one year deal, rather than a long-term one.  Jeff Green is a mediocre role player, not somebody that you waste your space on.

So, adding a half season of Jeff Green (or, to be charitable, 1.5 seasons) doesn't change my opinion.  I would still rather have the cap exception.

I actually think Green would have been signed here long term or would have been used in a sign and trade to bring someone else here, something I don't think would have happened with Perk (New Orleans for example wouldn't have wanted Perk, but was wiling to take Green in the West trade).

[Cman]

kills me that our pick could be better than the Clips pick

never saw that coming

Ditto.

On the other hand, it is still early in the season (says the optimist ).

[heitingas]

our own pick is certainly not going to be #24, more likely close to the lottery #15-17.

[Jeff]

Ainge was pushing for Harden in that deal (I've heard from more than one source) and when he couldn't get him, he should have backed away from the table

I'd rather have let Perkins walk this summer - or as Roy says, gotten a trade exception for him in a sign and trade

bottom line: if you could give me the option of trading Jeff Green's bird rights and the Clips pick for a chance to go back in time and have Perkins on the floor last year - I'd take it (and this is knowing full well that Perkins might not have been the difference in the Miami series)

that's just me - but I'm doing my best to move on

[Roy H.]

I actually think Green would have been signed here long term or would have been used in a sign and trade to bring someone else here, something I don't think would have happened with Perk (New Orleans for example wouldn't have wanted Perk, but was wiling to take Green in the West trade).

New Orleans was reportedly willing to take Jermaine O'Neal for West.  I'm sure they would have been happy to facilitate the deal with us for a trade exception and cash.

I don't think there's any indication we planned to sign Green to a long-term deal, or include him in a S&T.  We signed him to a one-year deal, which eliminated both of those options.

[Roy H.]

bottom line: if you could give me the option of trading Jeff Green's bird rights and the Clips pick for a chance to go back in time and have Perkins on the floor last year - I'd take it (and this is knowing full well that Perkins might not have been the difference in the Miami series)

Here, here.

[green7]

besides the pick danny could of got a way better deal player wise

[indeedproceed]

Ainge was pushing for Harden in that deal (I've heard from more than one source) and when he couldn't get him, he should have backed away from the table

Everyone just sit down for a moment and imagine if this happened.

shh...shh...just sit back, relax, and imagine our reserve swingman hitting 17 ppg on 46% shooting and 38% from deep, with 4 boards and 4 assists and solid defense.

Shhh...shh...just...imagine....


How's that feel for everyone?.....yes, I'm sad now too.

[Marcus13]

Considering it is the only thing we got from the trade and the Clippers are now a much better team than us...it doesn't seem to smart

[indeedproceed]

bottom line: if you could give me the option of trading Jeff Green's bird rights and the Clips pick for a chance to go back in time and have Perkins on the floor last year - I'd take it (and this is knowing full well that Perkins might not have been the difference in the Miami series)

Here, here.

Yeah, agree on this.

[green7]

i would've tried to trade perk for nene` once james harden was a no go

[cman88]

Eh, Perkins wouldve likely walked for nothing...as much as I love perk lets not act like he was bill russell...and if we signed him, do we want 9million$ locked up in an offensively inept player on a rebuilding team who will need scoring?

for all we know, Jeff Green could be a piece in a trade that lands us a solid player in the future.

danny was gambling the present with the future last year...it hasnt worked out so well for the present...but the jury is still out on how it will work out for the future.

[Inside-Out]

I think people tend to forget that Perk was not only a near-perpetual injury risk (shoulder, too), but NEVER averaged even 30 minutes.

I wouldn't tie up starter money in a player that can't or doesn't, for whatever reason, consistently play starter minutes.


It kills me that the pick isn't looking so high these days.  I can't believe how bad we got screwed in the lockout, and then by simple bad luck.  First the big we get in trade heads overseas to a lucrative contract (how unlikely for an NBA player to get more money overseas?), then Stern hands CP to the Clips the year we have their pick, and finally JG's medical issue.

It feels like 1990's era luck, doesn't it?

[Q_FBE]

Eh, Perkins wouldve likely walked for nothing...as much as I love perk lets not act like he was bill russell...and if we signed him, do we want 9million$ locked up in an offensively inept player on a rebuilding team who will need scoring?

for all we know, Jeff Green could be a piece in a trade that lands us a solid player in the future.

danny was gambling the present with the future last year...it hasnt worked out so well for the present...but the jury is still out on how it will work out for the future.

Do we still have the Bird rights to Jeff Green now that we voided his contract?

My opinion is that Danny Ainge got completely boned on the Perkins to OKC deal. But even with Perkins, I am beginning to think we were not going to make it to the 2011 NBA finals. If we had, we would have lost to Dallas.

Now without Jeff Green or Nenad Krstic (I guess Doc did not like him), we really don't have the energy to compete. We need energy from somewhere.