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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2012, 12:18:21 PM »

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It should also be noted that Love is only 23, he should only get better.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2012, 12:21:07 PM »

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He is in no way the best 4 in the league. Griffin and Aldridge are better; and Dirk still is until he regresses. When/if Pau finds his balls and starts playing like he was in the first half of last season, he would still be better.

Good post, high five.


Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2012, 01:07:37 PM »

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He would be awesome for this team. I'd start him over KG.

there aren't many power forwards in this league I wouldn't start K-Love over.
I'd feel bad for Minnesota losing another PF but oh well. Pity doesn't bring banners.

I think Love will stick around.  As bad as the Timberwolves have been, things are looking up now, and Love has to like what he's seeing from Rubio.  Not many teams he could join with a promising young passer like that.
except for this one?

why join this one, though?  after this season, there will be much more young talent on the Timberwolves than on the Celtics.  Plus, the T-Wolves can offer him a good deal more money.

Well, Minnesota is still Minnesota, and if Kevin Love ever wants to be a true international superstar, he might feel like he needs to find a better market for himself.  What better market for that guy to become that than here in Boston?

It might be farfetched, but I'm just saying it might not be as unrealistic as some think that he signs his qualifying offer for one year with the Wolves and then makes himself a UFA in the 2013 off-season. 

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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2012, 01:28:23 PM »

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Well, Minnesota is still Minnesota, and if Kevin Love ever wants to be a true international superstar, he might feel like he needs to find a better market for himself.  What better market for that guy to become that than here in Boston?

New York can and will make a hard play for him if they lose out on Dwight.

Amare for Love straight up. New York gets a 4 who can nail a 3, and rebound as well as any 4 in the league who is also a very gifted passer to go with their gifted scorer and defensive center.

With Iman Shumpert lookin like a baller in his first 2 starts, I'm thinking the Knicks are about to become deadly.

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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2012, 01:59:02 PM »

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The whole concept of KG sitting is unreal. Simply because The Big Three is the core of the team and remains The Big Three until retired. Which means at least 2 more years. The only reason why you people keep saying KG is getting old is because you look at his age and not his game.

Even if we trade for Kevin Love and get him, without trading away our starting five, we still keep KG on the starting team because he's much, much more experienced, better defender and, again, part of that group. But also because our second unit can already score as much as the first. Imagine the fear factor of Dooling's shooting abilities, Avery's defense, Daniels' defense and penetration, Bass' shooting and Kevin Love's rebounding on both ends and shooting. Oh, and also, Avery can shoot.

On one side you have the experienced team that knows every trick in the book and can still play like they did 10 years ago, and on the other you have a young, athletic, hungry team that sounds better than 90% of the first teams in the league.

The only way Kevin Love would get starting position would be instead of Jermaine, but only if he's injured. It's not about the privilege of starting as much as each group's impact and style of play.
I think you'd be about the only one that would bench the better player (who's playing like a max-contract player) so that he'd only get 18 minutes a night behind a past-his-prime player that's not producing rebounds, blocked shots or buckets with any kind of consistency. 
If in some fantasy world we had both Love and KG, Love starts.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2012, 02:01:03 PM »

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Well, Minnesota is still Minnesota, and if Kevin Love ever wants to be a true international superstar, he might feel like he needs to find a better market for himself.  What better market for that guy to become that than here in Boston?

New York can and will make a hard play for him if they lose out on Dwight.

Amare for Love straight up. New York gets a 4 who can nail a 3, and rebound as well as any 4 in the league who is also a very gifted passer to go with their gifted scorer and defensive center.

With Iman Shumpert lookin like a baller in his first 2 starts, I'm thinking the Knicks are about to become deadly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyiL2X129sI

'Shump Shump ain't touch that.'

It's a good idea, but I think  Minnesota's got some real concerns about Amare's health and willingness to go more north.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2012, 02:05:11 PM »

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He would be awesome for this team. I'd start him over KG.

there aren't many power forwards in this league I wouldn't start K-Love over.
I'd feel bad for Minnesota losing another PF but oh well. Pity doesn't bring banners.

I think Love will stick around.  As bad as the Timberwolves have been, things are looking up now, and Love has to like what he's seeing from Rubio.  Not many teams he could join with a promising young passer like that.
except for this one?

why join this one, though?  after this season, there will be much more young talent on the Timberwolves than on the Celtics.  Plus, the T-Wolves can offer him a good deal more money.
I dont see how they have more money to offer. If we have enough to offer dwight in the offseason, then we certainly have enough to offer kevin love.
Another thing, not pertaining to what you said, I'm really suprised that eveeryone thinks KG is gonna still start, if play at all, next year. I love KG but yall...hes gonna be a 36 year old PF. I still think he can play well this year, great even, but its the natural cycle of things that we get a new starting power foward next season.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2012, 02:07:16 PM »

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Well, Minnesota is still Minnesota, and if Kevin Love ever wants to be a true international superstar, he might feel like he needs to find a better market for himself.  What better market for that guy to become that than here in Boston?

New York can and will make a hard play for him if they lose out on Dwight.

Amare for Love straight up. New York gets a 4 who can nail a 3, and rebound as well as any 4 in the league who is also a very gifted passer to go with their gifted scorer and defensive center.

With Iman Shumpert lookin like a baller in his first 2 starts, I'm thinking the Knicks are about to become deadly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyiL2X129sI

'Shump Shump ain't touch that.'

It's a good idea, but I think  Minnesota's got some real concerns about Amare's health and willingness to go more north.

They probably do. I imagine, however, that if Kevin Love is not willing to sign an extension, they'll have even bigger concerns about retaining any star talent on their roster. They need someone under-contract already.

Honestly though I imagine that they'll keep him. Just saying, if he's gonna walk, we're not gonna get him.

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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2012, 02:13:34 PM »

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He would be awesome for this team. I'd start him over KG.

there aren't many power forwards in this league I wouldn't start K-Love over.
I'd feel bad for Minnesota losing another PF but oh well. Pity doesn't bring banners.

I think Love will stick around.  As bad as the Timberwolves have been, things are looking up now, and Love has to like what he's seeing from Rubio.  Not many teams he could join with a promising young passer like that.
except for this one?

why join this one, though?  after this season, there will be much more young talent on the Timberwolves than on the Celtics.  Plus, the T-Wolves can offer him a good deal more money.
I dont see how they have more money to offer. If we have enough to offer dwight in the offseason, then we certainly have enough to offer kevin love.
Another thing, not pertaining to what you said, I'm really suprised that eveeryone thinks KG is gonna still start, if play at all, next year. I love KG but yall...hes gonna be a 36 year old PF. I still think he can play well this year, great even, but its the natural cycle of things that we get a new starting power foward next season.

You're right.  If Love becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2013, we'll certainly be able to have the dough to offer him a max contract.

I think Indeed Proceed may have a valid point, though, that if Love doesn't sign long-term with the Wolves, they would probably start shopping him before he ever reaches free agency.  

It'd be harder to get in that game, but who knows with two first rounder coming up this summer, Danny may have the time to put the assets together for a go at Love via the trade route.
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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2012, 02:31:58 PM »

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He would be awesome for this team. I'd start him over KG.

there aren't many power forwards in this league I wouldn't start K-Love over.
I'd feel bad for Minnesota losing another PF but oh well. Pity doesn't bring banners.

I think Love will stick around.  As bad as the Timberwolves have been, things are looking up now, and Love has to like what he's seeing from Rubio.  Not many teams he could join with a promising young passer like that.
except for this one?

why join this one, though?  after this season, there will be much more young talent on the Timberwolves than on the Celtics.  Plus, the T-Wolves can offer him a good deal more money.
I dont see how they have more money to offer. If we have enough to offer dwight in the offseason, then we certainly have enough to offer kevin love.

Bird Rights - teams can offer their own players more money than anothers'.  The max Minnesota can offer Love is  significantly larger than what we can offer.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2012, 02:39:10 PM »

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He would be awesome for this team. I'd start him over KG.

there aren't many power forwards in this league I wouldn't start K-Love over.
I'd feel bad for Minnesota losing another PF but oh well. Pity doesn't bring banners.

I think Love will stick around.  As bad as the Timberwolves have been, things are looking up now, and Love has to like what he's seeing from Rubio.  Not many teams he could join with a promising young passer like that.
except for this one?

why join this one, though?  after this season, there will be much more young talent on the Timberwolves than on the Celtics.  Plus, the T-Wolves can offer him a good deal more money.
I dont see how they have more money to offer. If we have enough to offer dwight in the offseason, then we certainly have enough to offer kevin love.

Bird Rights - teams can offer their own players more money than anothers'.  The max Minnesota can offer Love is  significantly larger than what we can offer.
I see

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2012, 02:49:30 PM »

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If Minnesota feels that even with the extra cash they can give Love that he will not re-sign with them because he doesn't like the market, they would almost have to sign and trade him this off season.

Why?

Because they risk him taking the qualifying offer this off season because he doesn't want to sign an offer sheet and have the T-Wolves match it. If he accepts the qualifying offer, then Love basically has to play for the Wolves for the entire season, can't be traded, and then enters unrestricted free agency where Minnesota can lose him without compensation, though, it is still possible they could sign and trade him then as well. But that is no guarantee though Minnesota could guarantee getting something back this year as they still have right of first refusal and could force the situation.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »

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If Minnesota feels that even with the extra cash they can give Love that he will not re-sign with them because he doesn't like the market, they would almost have to sign and trade him this off season.

Why?

Because they risk him taking the qualifying offer this off season because he doesn't want to sign an offer sheet and have the T-Wolves match it. If he accepts the qualifying offer, then Love basically has to play for the Wolves for the entire season, can't be traded, and then enters unrestricted free agency where Minnesota can lose him without compensation, though, it is still possible they could sign and trade him then as well. But that is no guarantee though Minnesota could guarantee getting something back this year as they still have right of first refusal and could force the situation.

Yeah, but even if they S&T'd him as an unrestricted FA, they're looking at considerably less coming back, and that's 100% certain. They lack nearly all the leverage in that situation.

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Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2012, 02:57:14 PM »

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If Minnesota feels that even with the extra cash they can give Love that he will not re-sign with them because he doesn't like the market, they would almost have to sign and trade him this off season.

Why?

Because they risk him taking the qualifying offer this off season because he doesn't want to sign an offer sheet and have the T-Wolves match it. If he accepts the qualifying offer, then Love basically has to play for the Wolves for the entire season, can't be traded, and then enters unrestricted free agency where Minnesota can lose him without compensation, though, it is still possible they could sign and trade him then as well. But that is no guarantee though Minnesota could guarantee getting something back this year as they still have right of first refusal and could force the situation.

Yeah, but even if they S&T'd him as an unrestricted FA, they're looking at considerably less coming back, and that's 100% certain. They lack nearly all the leverage in that situation.
They might just want to let him get a max offer from another team and then match it immediately. His own statements could just be manuevering to put pressure on them to step up and just offer a Derek Rose type deal instead of that.

Re: Love Won't Commit To Signing Deal With Twolves
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2012, 03:01:32 PM »

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If Minnesota feels that even with the extra cash they can give Love that he will not re-sign with them because he doesn't like the market, they would almost have to sign and trade him this off season.

Why?

Because they risk him taking the qualifying offer this off season because he doesn't want to sign an offer sheet and have the T-Wolves match it. If he accepts the qualifying offer, then Love basically has to play for the Wolves for the entire season, can't be traded, and then enters unrestricted free agency where Minnesota can lose him without compensation, though, it is still possible they could sign and trade him then as well. But that is no guarantee though Minnesota could guarantee getting something back this year as they still have right of first refusal and could force the situation.

Yeah, but even if they S&T'd him as an unrestricted FA, they're looking at considerably less coming back, and that's 100% certain. They lack nearly all the leverage in that situation.
They might just want to let him get a max offer from another team and then match it immediately. His own statements could just be manuevering to put pressure on them to step up and just offer a Derek Rose type deal instead of that.

If he's unrestricted though they can't match with any guarantee they'll retain his services.

That's why if he won't sign a deal as a RFA, they ought to trade his butt.

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