Chris Brousard - "CP3 won't sign an extension with the c's"

[nickagneta]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

[CelticsFanNC]

 Sorry I try to deal in reality.  Reality is there is almost zero chance Boston gets both Paul and Howard.

  Are you guys also going to criticize Ainge when he doesn't live up to your pipe dreams?  

  You need assets to build a great team.  Ainge has shown that once.  He accumulated various assets and turned them into gold.  Right now I don't believe the Celtics have the kind of assets that will eventually land Chris Paul and Dwight Howard in other cities.

  If Ainge can get an extension I am all for trading Rondo for Paul and quite a few others but not for a one and done.  I wouldn't do it with out assurances that you're not trading your only young asset for a guy who may or may not make you better short term and wont be here more then one year.  

  Competent organizations play the percentages.  The percentages are stacked pretty high against either Howard or Paul landing in Boston in the near future.
  

You're right.  The chances of us getting Howard and Paul are extremely small.  Anyone who thinks that they aren't is kidding themselves.  

However, I also think you're kidding yourself if you think that the chances of us winning a title anytime soon any other way are any better.  In fact, they're probably worse.  

The simple fact of the matter is that the NBA is a league dominated by who has the best superstars.  That's why over the past 30 years, it's essentially been Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan who've won the bulk of the championships.  This isn't like baseball or football where you can simply build a team of good players, coach it well, and expect to be a contender.  Talent wins out.  

So what would you suggest we do?  A team led by Rondo and Pierce is going to be too good to get in the lottery and have us hit it big there.  Could we potentially draft a stud in the teens or early 20s?  Maybe, but that's a very long shot too.  The C's need to find a way to get new top, top notch talent on this team.  

And that's where Paul comes in.  Now, I do think it's a long shot he comes here, and an even longer shot he stays here.  But assuming the C's actually overcome that longshot, I think he improves the chances of us landing Howard.  

Now, say what you like about Rondo vs. Paul, but Paul is the bigger name that someone like Howard will consider coming Boston to play with.  

Again, it's a very long shot.  But the chances of us building another contender anytime soon is a long shot in general.  The Knicks haven't won a title in 40 years and they got lucky with the draft with Ewing and had a big payroll.  We need to find some way to get top tier talent here, and I don't know a better gamble than Paul and Howard other praying we get the next Kobe/LeBron/Durant at the 20th pick.  

  Personally I think Ainge is going to end up with second tear players.  I don't think Boston can match other teams bids for there top tier guys like Howard and Paul.  I also don't see them hitting free agency either, not after LBJ held the Cavaliers hostage and then walked while the world watched.  

They will be dealt to the highest bidder and it wont likely be Boston.  The Celtics best assets are Rondo, the expiring contracts of KG and Allen the Clips pick and other first rounders.  That's not enough to get Paul let alone Paul and Howard.

  The Celtics best option IMO is to aim a bit lower and then hope that the 2nd tier guys they bring in either via Free Agency or trade come in with a chip on their shoulders and kick some tail.  The top guys like Howard and Paul wont hit free agency IMO and even if they do they Boston and an ancient Big Three aren't going to attract them. Someone like Bogut, ya I can see that.

  Rondo, a young star in his own right and reasonably paid is the Celtics #1 asset.   If you're going to spend it you'd better spend it wisely.  The potential of one and done just isn't good enough because the long term effects could be crippling. 

[timpiker]

I say shoot for the moon and hope for the best.

Trade Rondo and anyone but KG, PP and RA for CP.

Make a nice run this year.  If CP signs with the C's in the off season, great.  We could offer way more than anyone else, NYK included. If he doesn't sign with C's we have almost unlimited cap space.

The real key is what would Rondo be like without PP, KG and RA down the road?  I think they all may be back again next year anyways.

I'd take my chances with CP signing after the season if he won't sign now.  Go for it Danny! 

[JBcat]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

All great points but I believe in the new CBA teams we will have to have salaries that account for up to 80% (or something like that) of the cap or face a penalty.   So with your last point if we lost Chris Paul in the offseason next year, we would probably have to keep Paul Pierce on the books to help get to that minimum total salary.

[GreenEnvy]

On a team as bad we are at rebounding , we need every board we can get.

That's like not wanting to move a Center because he can pass well, yet has no post moves and doesn't know how to box out.

Besides, you really think Rondo makes a significant difference in rebounding?

  In the playoffs, if you look at players that have played 20 or more games, he's one of the 10 best rebounding guards of all time. He also led the team in rpg against the Lakers in the finals in 2010.

What does that even mean?

Do you really think he ripped so many boards away from opposing teams? Rebounds that no other PG could but himself could get? Paul isn't exactly House or Nate on the glass.

Besides, those numbers are inflated because we didn't have a PF in 2009.

No doubt he is a good rebounder for his position. But no PG is going to make a poor rebounding team a good one, or in our case, an awful one a bad one. Bigs define how good a rebounding team you are, not wing players.

He scoops in and grabs them from our own guys half the time to start the break. Once every few games does he actually grab one that only he can.

Our rebounding numbers would not vary much (if at all) with CP3 instead of Rondo.

  That's a pretty nonsensical post. Of course he ripped quite a few rebounds away from the other team. The point isn't that he's the only point guard that *can* get a lot of the rebounds, it's that he's the one who *does*. You can say that playing without a good rebounding pf skewed his numbers, but plenty of point guards play with a weak rebounding big. Rondo's 10 boards a game in those playoffs helped keep the Celts from getting beat on the boards that year, I seriously doubt that you'll ever see a similar effort from Paul.

I'm not sure what you are getting at, when he averaged over 4 more rebounds per game in the playoffs that year than his other 3 trips. I'm not gonna say he was statpadding, but he wasn't playing his normal game.

Paul averaged 22/11/7 this year in the playoffs. I'd take those numbers every single game.

And I'd much rather that than Rondo's 17/10/10.

We are not losing anything defensively, and rebounding is the least important facet of a PG's game, regardless of how poor the rest of the team is at it.

The best rebounding PG is not going to stop the other teams' bigs the whole game. Maybe he can grab one or two that take a tricky bounce or sneak in to steal one, but it is not something I would rely on night in.

And BTW, career numbers favor Paul (4.6 vs 4.4 regular season, 5.3 vs 4.9 minus the 2009 abberation in the playoffs).

The more I look at it, the less I believe Rondo is a better rebounder at all. If he is, it is marginal at best, like his defense and passing. Paul is head and shoulders above him offensively.

[action781]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

TP nick. You hit up on all the points and reasons why I agree with you. Let's just hope it happens now... Extension or no extension.

[EJPLAYA]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

Can everyone on here please give Nick a TP?! As usual Nick you are dead on the money with this and hopefully Danny is thinking the exact same thing. If we won a championship next year and we lost Paul and didn’t get Howard we would STILL be all thrilled to death. Paul, Ray, KG, and filler is enough to put us back in the finals. Do the deal. Rondo is right now at his peak which albeit is really really good, isn’t enough.

What will teams do when they can’t sink into the paint off of Rondo anymore. Ray will get MANY more wide open 3’s. KG will get many more wide open 17 footers. Paul will get many more one on one opportunities and open 3’s for that matter. Do the deal!!! We’ll cross the other bridges as they come.

[BballTim]

On a team as bad we are at rebounding , we need every board we can get.

That's like not wanting to move a Center because he can pass well, yet has no post moves and doesn't know how to box out.

Besides, you really think Rondo makes a significant difference in rebounding?

  In the playoffs, if you look at players that have played 20 or more games, he's one of the 10 best rebounding guards of all time. He also led the team in rpg against the Lakers in the finals in 2010.

What does that even mean?

Do you really think he ripped so many boards away from opposing teams? Rebounds that no other PG could but himself could get? Paul isn't exactly House or Nate on the glass.

Besides, those numbers are inflated because we didn't have a PF in 2009.

No doubt he is a good rebounder for his position. But no PG is going to make a poor rebounding team a good one, or in our case, an awful one a bad one. Bigs define how good a rebounding team you are, not wing players.

He scoops in and grabs them from our own guys half the time to start the break. Once every few games does he actually grab one that only he can.

Our rebounding numbers would not vary much (if at all) with CP3 instead of Rondo.

  That's a pretty nonsensical post. Of course he ripped quite a few rebounds away from the other team. The point isn't that he's the only point guard that *can* get a lot of the rebounds, it's that he's the one who *does*. You can say that playing without a good rebounding pf skewed his numbers, but plenty of point guards play with a weak rebounding big. Rondo's 10 boards a game in those playoffs helped keep the Celts from getting beat on the boards that year, I seriously doubt that you'll ever see a similar effort from Paul.

I'm not sure what you are getting at, when he averaged over 4 more rebounds per game in the playoffs that year than his other 3 trips. I'm not gonna say he was statpadding, but he wasn't playing his normal game.

Paul averaged 22/11/7 this year in the playoffs. I'd take those numbers every single game.

And I'd much rather that than Rondo's 17/10/10.

We are not losing anything defensively, and rebounding is the least important facet of a PG's game, regardless of how poor the rest of the team is at it.

The best rebounding PG is not going to stop the other teams' bigs the whole game. Maybe he can grab one or two that take a tricky bounce or sneak in to steal one, but it is not something I would rely on night in.

And BTW, career numbers favor Paul (4.6 vs 4.4 regular season, 5.3 vs 4.9 minus the 2009 abberation in the playoffs).

The more I look at it, the less I believe Rondo is a better rebounder at all. If he is, it is marginal at best, like his defense and passing. Paul is head and shoulders above him offensively.

  I'll disagree with most of this. Rondo is clearly a better rebounder than CP3. You're dismissing his rebounding in a year when we were in great need of it because KG was out as an aberration, I'll call it play that Rondo's clearly capable of but CP3 probably isn't. Rondo is a better defender than CP3 although Paul is pretty good.

  Paul is a better offensive player but I don't think he's head and shoulders above Rondo. He is if you only look at individual output, he isn't if you consider impact on the game. Everyone keeps talking about how hard Rondo makes it on the other players because of his outside shot, but when Rondo's healthy you watch the Celts get easy shot after easy shot. Ray and Paul both shot significantly better with Rondo playing, in fact most of the players on the Celts this year had the most efficient scoring years of their careers or came close to it. Think you can say the same for CP3's teammates?

[PosImpos]

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

totally with you here.  it's the unfortunate reality for rebuilding teams in the NBA.  i want to have faith in danny, but im worried that hitting rock bottom in the next couple of seasons is the only hope the celtics have for being a top contender again within the next 5 or 6 years.

[j804]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

Can everyone on here please give Nick a TP?! As usual Nick you are dead on the money with this and hopefully Danny is thinking the exact same thing. If we won a championship next year and we lost Paul and didn’t get Howard we would STILL be all thrilled to death. Paul, Ray, KG, and filler is enough to put us back in the finals. Do the deal. Rondo is right now at his peak which albeit is really really good, isn’t enough.

What will teams do when they can’t sink into the paint off of Rondo anymore. Ray will get MANY more wide open 3’s. KG will get many more wide open 17 footers. Paul will get many more one on one opportunities and open 3’s for that matter. Do the deal!!! We’ll cross the other bridges as they come.

Better yet if we win a championship CP3 is just too competitive so he wouldn't go anywhere and would want to go for another

[Change]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

Oh! For crying out loud, give this man a TP.

you nailed it nick.

[GreenFaith1819]

As was discussed in a previous thread about CP3's knees - article from A. Sherrod Blakely:

http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/news/Celtics-concerned-about-Pauls-knee?blockID=603168&feedID=3945

Danny - please punt on this one. Roll with Rondo.

[CelticHooligan3]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

I feel ya Nick TP!

[Drucci]

TP Nick, dead on the money!

What worries me, though, and GreenFaith mentioned it, is CP3's knees condition. He clearly can become a "Brandon Roy 2.0", which would be a nightmare scenario for us if we were able to sign him long term. I hope Danny really gets a good look at Paul's medical condition if he ever has to pull the trigger on such a trade.

[CelticsFanNC]

If you have the chance to land Chris Paul for Rondo(with other parts also moving) you have to do it. Here's why:


1. Simply put, Chris Paul is the better overall, all-around player. Both players are so close in all aspects of their game as to be indistinguishable from the other. But Paul's ability to shoot FTs and from long range make him the better player.

2. Having the better player with this group of vets gives this team a better chance to win this year. The C's problems this year will not be defensively. Their problems, especially with older legs and players taking back ends of back-to-backs off, will be offensively and Paul will help in that regard much more than Rondo being here would.

3. Regardless of what Paul is saying now about signing an extension here, his best contract will come from Boston after he is traded here. Therefore, if the C's covertly and Paul overtly, could tell Howard that the C's will give him a max contract to come play in Boston with CP3 in 2012, Paul will in fact re-sign here if he knows Howard is coming here too. And he wouldn't have to re-sign until after Howard does. And if Howard doesn't sign here Chris Paul has another choice. To re-sign elsewhere for a smaller contract than he could get here or:

4. He could be sign and traded with his max contract amount given to him by Boston which then could land Boston, young assets to build with, a huge trade exception to deal with, draft picks or any combination of any and all of these things.


Really the only scenario where Boston loses out is if Paul decides to resign elsewhere for a smaller contract in years and dollars than he could get here by signing with the Celtics long term or being sign and traded by the Celtics.

And if he is sign and traded, its better long term for the Celtics not to have Rondo, amnesty Pierce and to be pathetic for several years accumulating high 1st round picks than it would be to have Pierce, Rondo, and mid level talent surrounding them from the cap space the Celtics will have and being mediocre for a decade.

  I agree with much of what you said but you are still making one huge....and IMO wrong assumption.

  That assumption is that Boston has the kind of assets it is going to take to get Chris Paul from New Orleans which IMO it doesn't.  

  People need to start bracing themselves for the idea that neither Chris Paul or Dwight Howard are going to land in Boston because getting one of them would take all of our assets and then some IMO and getting two of them is almost impossible unless one of the two hit free agency which I highly doubt either will.  If you have to trade one or two of the big three's expiring contracts, along with Rondo and picks to get it done then not only are you once again falling short of being a true title contender you are also almost certainly taking on bad contracts in return which in turn would end the idea of having cap space going forward.

  Also people keep saying stuff like "Danny get it done" like he is working in a bubble where there are no other teams with better assets to make these kind of deals then the assets the Celtics currently have.  There are other teams involved and those other teams in many cases as it currently stands have better assets then the Celtics have to make the kind of deals it will take to get Paul or Howard.  If they actually hit free agency then it is a different story but I don't think they will and even if they do Boston wont be high on their list of desired destinations.


  I hate to be the one who is p---ing in everyone beer but the chances of Boston landing Paul are minimal.  The chances of them landing Howard are also minimal.  The chances of both landing in Boston are so minimal that they probably shouldn't even be discussed by rational people.