Re: Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB H2H League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[nickagneta]

First trade to announce:

Utah Flash sends:
Brook Lopez, Goran Dragic, Reggie Williams, Jerryd Bayless, and #37 pick

Toine's Boys send:
Bismack Biyombo, Donatas Motiejunas, Tobias Harris, Jon Leuer, #3 pick, and #31 pick

any thoughts on the deal? I always love to hear people's opinions, good an bad, especially TWW's.

There is a follow up deal to announce that compliments it though.

I am no fan of Brrok Lopez and even less so considering he can't stay healthy. Dragic is the best player going back to Toine's Boys but Montiejunas was spectacular in summer league and will get tons of PT in Houston and the #3 pick could be a long time All-Star.

Have to give this one to Utah due to the long term potential of Biyombo, Montie and the #3 pick. In a couple years this could look like a Parish/McHale-like deal for Utah.

[nickagneta]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Rims. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

[hpantazo]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Bacon. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

wait...you mean you and Roy disagree with each other here  ?

[hpantazo]

First trade to announce:

Utah Flash sends:
Brook Lopez, Goran Dragic, Reggie Williams, Jerryd Bayless, and #37 pick

Toine's Boys send:
Bismack Biyombo, Donatas Motiejunas, Tobias Harris, Jon Leuer, #3 pick, and #31 pick

any thoughts on the deal? I always love to hear people's opinions, good an bad, especially TWW's.

There is a follow up deal to announce that compliments it though.

I am no fan of Brrok Lopez and even less so considering he can't stay healthy. Dragic is the best player going back to Toine's Boys but Montiejunas was spectacular in summer league and will get tons of PT in Houston and the #3 pick could be a long time All-Star.

Have to give this one to Utah due to the long term potential of Biyombo, Montie and the #3 pick. In a couple years this could look like a Parish/McHale-like deal for Utah.

I definitely see this side of it too, and I'm surprised no one brought up Tobias Harris' potential yet, but I'm a big fan of Lopez (as a fantasy player), I think he will do well with the current Nets lineup and Dragic is the best player in the deal. I'm taking a big risk, as Biyombo, Montiejunas, Harris, and the #3 all can become all-stars, but the chance of that happening is low imo. In the complementary trade (yet to be announced) I sort of make up for losing the #3 pick.

[nickagneta]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Bacon. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

wait...you mean you and Roy disagree with each other here  ?

Ummm no. Switch that, turn it around. Bacon traded the #2 pick right? So he got bad value. My bad, multitasking can be a ....well you know. Rusted Rims got the better of the trade.

[hpantazo]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Bacon. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

wait...you mean you and Roy disagree with each other here  ?

Ummm no. Switch that, turn it around. Bacon traded the #2 pick right? So he got bad value. My bad, multitasking can be a ....well you know. Rusted Rims got the better of the trade.

ahh, ok, everything makes sense now!  I agree with the assessment fwiw

[Rondo2287]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Bacon. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

wait...you mean you and Roy disagree with each other here  ?

Ummm no. Switch that, turn it around. Bacon traded the #2 pick right? So he got bad value. My bad, multitasking can be a ....well you know. Rusted Rims got the better of the trade.

ahh, ok, everything makes sense now!  I agree with the assessment fwiw

I dunno, I can see both sides.  Bacon only moves down 9 spots and picks up two nice young players.

Though this trade will be decided by who the Rusted rims take and how that guy pans out obviously

[hpantazo]

A third deal to announce:

Rusted Rims trade Kemba Walker, Avery Bradley, #11 pick, #20 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Wesley Johnson, #2 pick, #19 pick

Reall like this for Bacon. Walker and Bradley for the #2 pick this year is just not good value...IMHO.

wait...you mean you and Roy disagree with each other here  ?

Ummm no. Switch that, turn it around. Bacon traded the #2 pick right? So he got bad value. My bad, multitasking can be a ....well you know. Rusted Rims got the better of the trade.

ahh, ok, everything makes sense now!  I agree with the assessment fwiw

I dunno, I can see both sides.  Bacon only moves down 9 spots and picks up two nice young players.

Though this trade will be decided by who the Rusted rims take and how that guy pans out obviously

Yea, I think I know who RR is taking and also have a pretty good idea of how he will pan out though. That is one reason I traded down from the #3 pick.

[fairweatherfan]

I say up it to 50%

Hypothetically, would that be 50% total (10/20) or 50% of the teams not involved in the deal (9/18, or 17 if a 3-way deal)?  50% total is basically closer to 60%, since the guys making the deal aren't gonna veto it.

[hpantazo]

I say up it to 50%

Hypothetically, would that be 50% total (10/20) or 50% of the teams not involved in the deal (9/18, or 17 if a 3-way deal)?  50% total is basically closer to 60%, since the guys making the deal aren't gonna veto it.

the real question is, if we make a poll for this question, what percentage of the league will actually vote on it?

[fairweatherfan]

I dunno, I can see both sides.  Bacon only moves down 9 spots and picks up two nice young players.

Though this trade will be decided by who the Rusted rims take and how that guy pans out obviously

I'm obviously happy with my return but I agree with this - Walker is in line to score a ton the next couple of years on that Bobcat squad, and there's still plenty of talent at 11.  And that's without mentioning Bradley.

[Birdman]

Where is the draft order for the draft or did i over look it, lol..want to send some offers

[Kwhit10]

Where is the draft order for the draft or did i over look it, lol..want to send some offers

This has everyone's roster and designated draft picks.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&pli=1#gid=0

[Lucky17]

Where is the draft order for the draft or did i over look it, lol..want to send some offers

I will soon be posting a new thread dedicated to the upcoming 2012-13 season that includes the draft order for Thursday.

I'll want to coordinate with a mod, as I'd like to keep the thread locked until Thursday. Can someone PM me about doing this?

[The Walker Wiggle]

I believe this is the current full draft order  -

1. GomesFan
2. Rusted Rims (via Toine's Boys)
3. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon)
4. Boxer Rebellion (via Juggernauts)
5. Rusted Rims
6. Rubio & Friends
7. Y'all Hate (via Lucky17)
8. Larry Bird 17
9. Birdman
10. Designated Drinkers (via Blake)
11. Make Me Some Bacon (via Webskins)
12. Rusted Rims (via Gainesville Celtics)
13. Juggernauts (via Utah Flash)
14. Kwhit10
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Designated Drinkers)
16. Password is Taco
17. Toine's Boys (via Harden's Homeboys)
18. Make Me Some Bacon (via Boxer Rebellion)
19. Rusted Rims (via Ya'll Hate)
20. Make Me Some Bacon (via Draft Dodgers)

21. Kwhit10 (via Toine's Boys)
22. Gainesville Celtics (via Make Me Some Bacon)
23. Birdman (via Juggernauts)
24. GomesFan
25. Kwhit10 (via Rusted Rims)
26. Rubio & Friends
27. Lucky17
28. Larry Bird 17
29. Birdman
30. Blake
31. Utah Flash (via Webskins)
32. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics)
33. Designated Drinkers (via Utah Flash)
34. Rusted Rims (via Kwhit10)
35. Kwhit10 (via Designated Drinkers)
36. Password is Taco
37. Toine's Boys (via Ya'll Hate)
38. Draft Dodgers
39. Utah Flash (via Harden's Homeboys)
40. GomesFan (via Boxer Rebellion)