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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1185 on: July 25, 2011, 01:28:56 PM »

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I've added Carmelo Anthony, Evan Turner, and JJ Hickson to an already very talented young team, and I go from 4th to 3rd in just the Division?!? I think my team is being highly under-rated, simply because their "young".


This is awesome press conference fodder. You have really done a great job of improving your team through trades, but trades are easy to get lost in the mix when there's so much going on. I'm looking forward to hearing your take on how your guys panned out, although I've got some questions about your depth and just how many young, unproven guys (Benson, the Thompsons, Jimmer) that you'll have to rely on.
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1186 on: July 25, 2011, 01:37:37 PM »

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I've added Carmelo Anthony, Evan Turner, and JJ Hickson to an already very talented young team, and I go from 4th to 3rd in just the Division?!? I think my team is being highly under-rated, simply because their "young".


Atlantic

(1) Phily - dependent on how Hedo Turkoglu is utilized
(2) New Jersey
(3) Boston
(4) New York

Central

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Atlanta
(4) Miami

I see six clear cut playoff teams. Final two spots yet to be won.


Atlantic Division

(1) Phily
(2) New York
(3) New Jersey
(4) Boston

Central Division

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast Division

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Miami
(4) Atlanta

Undecided on the two final playoff spots. Between Boston, Detroit and Orlando.

You might be right. I think its time you started advocating, and going on the offensive. People have alternated on who is better, you or Atlanta, but maybe its time you took aim at the rest of your conference and your division and showed clearly why you're the better team.  

Indeed, Indeed, (always wanted to say that ;)) ... I have a rather "lively" press conference planned, and I'm taking no prisoners. There's much more to these Samurai than just youth.
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1187 on: July 25, 2011, 01:41:42 PM »

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1188 on: July 25, 2011, 01:44:24 PM »

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Indeed, Indeed, (always wanted to say that ;)) ... I have a rather "lively" press conference planned, and I'm taking no prisoners. There's much more to these Samurai than just youth.

Well, if I were you I'd start throwing some of those arguments out there early to see how they fair. There is nothing more annoying than spending hours on something just for some jerk to throw logic bombs at it you didn't see coming.

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1189 on: July 25, 2011, 02:00:16 PM »

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Indeed, Indeed, (always wanted to say that ;)) ... I have a rather "lively" press conference planned, and I'm taking no prisoners. There's much more to these Samurai than just youth.

Well, if I were you I'd start throwing some of those arguments out there early to see how they fair. There is nothing more annoying than spending hours on something just for some jerk to throw logic bombs at it you didn't see coming.


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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1190 on: July 25, 2011, 03:26:30 PM »

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Southwest Division

(1) San Antonio
(2) Cleveland
(3) Dallas
(4) Memphis

Northwest Division

(1) Portland
(2) Denver
(3) Utah
(4) Oklahoma

Pacific Division

(1) Sacramento
(2) Phoenix
(3) Golden State
(4) Los Angeles

4th place? kobe+rondo 4th place? what is this the flint tropics mega bowl?

my northwest would be
1.UTah
2.OKC
3.portland
4.denver
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1191 on: July 25, 2011, 04:31:46 PM »

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I've added Carmelo Anthony, Evan Turner, and JJ Hickson to an already very talented young team, and I go from 4th to 3rd in just the Division?!? I think my team is being highly under-rated, simply because their "young".


Atlantic

(1) Phily - dependent on how Hedo Turkoglu is utilized
(2) New Jersey
(3) Boston
(4) New York

Central

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Atlanta
(4) Miami

I see six clear cut playoff teams. Final two spots yet to be won.


Atlantic Division

(1) Phily
(2) New York
(3) New Jersey
(4) Boston

Central Division

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast Division

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Miami
(4) Atlanta

Undecided on the two final playoff spots. Between Boston, Detroit and Orlando.

Bahku,

I think the main issue is yes your team is young, but you have team without a guy I would consider a leader. Neither Melo, Harris, or Lopez has shown they have what it takes to lead a team to a title now or in the future. There is no 2009 Brandon Roy - young superstar and definite leader - on your team. IMO.  :)


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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1192 on: July 25, 2011, 04:39:06 PM »

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Miami's biggest struggle in my book is on the defensive end. I'm interested in the press conference and your vision of your team.

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1193 on: July 25, 2011, 04:52:28 PM »

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Need thoughts on my rotation, where/if I should make changes.

PG: Lowry (37), Sessions (11)
SG: Harden (32), Morrow (16)
SF: Delfino (25), Derrick Williams (13), Jonas Jerebko (10)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (24), Derrick Williams (15), Jonas Jerebko (6)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (10), Robin Lopez (6)

Deep Bench: Gerald Hendersen, Anthony Tolliver, Patty Mills

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1194 on: July 25, 2011, 05:04:17 PM »

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Need thoughts on my rotation, where/if I should make changes.

PG: Lowry (37), Sessions (11)
SG: Harden (32), Morrow (16)
SF: Delfino (25), Derrick Williams (13), Jonas Jerebko (10)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (24), Derrick Williams (15), Jonas Jerebko (6)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (10), Robin Lopez (6)

Deep Bench: Gerald Hendersen, Anthony Tolliver, Patty Mills

(1) Big Lineup

PG: Lowry (36), Sessions (12)
SG: Harden (35), Morrow (13)
SF: Delfino (30), Derrick Williams (18)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (36), Derrick Williams (13)
C: Andrew Bogut (33), Robin Lopez (15)

(2) Small Lineup

PG: Lowry (36), Sessions (12)
SG: Harden (35), Morrow (13)
SF: Delfino (32), Jonas Jerebko (16)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (20), Derrick Williams (28)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (16)

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1195 on: July 25, 2011, 05:06:18 PM »

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Need thoughts on my rotation, where/if I should make changes.

PG: Lowry (37), Sessions (11)
SG: Harden (32), Morrow (16)
SF: Delfino (25), Derrick Williams (13), Jonas Jerebko (10)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (24), Derrick Williams (15), Jonas Jerebko (6)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (10), Robin Lopez (6)

Deep Bench: Gerald Hendersen, Anthony Tolliver, Patty Mills

(1) Big Lineup

PG: Lowry (36), Sessions (12)
SG: Harden (35), Morrow (13)
SF: Delfino (30), Derrick Williams (18)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (36), Derrick Williams (13)
C: Andrew Bogut (33), Robin Lopez (15)

(2) Small Lineup

PG: Lowry (36), Sessions (12)
SG: Harden (35), Morrow (13)
SF: Delfino (32), Jonas Jerebko (16)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (20), Derrick Williams (28)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (16)

But basically you're saying that I have the right combination of guys in my main rotation, and Mills/Hendersen/Tolliver should ride the pine most nights?

EDIT: Ah, you took out Jerebko.

Double edit: actually, no you didnt.

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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1196 on: July 25, 2011, 05:15:38 PM »

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I've added Carmelo Anthony, Evan Turner, and JJ Hickson to an already very talented young team, and I go from 4th to 3rd in just the Division?!? I think my team is being highly under-rated, simply because their "young".


Atlantic

(1) Phily - dependent on how Hedo Turkoglu is utilized
(2) New Jersey
(3) Boston
(4) New York

Central

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Atlanta
(4) Miami

I see six clear cut playoff teams. Final two spots yet to be won.


Atlantic Division

(1) Phily
(2) New York
(3) New Jersey
(4) Boston

Central Division

(1) Indiana
(2) Chicago
(3) Detroit
(4) Milwaukee

Southeast Division

(1) Washington
(2) Orlando
(3) Miami
(4) Atlanta

Undecided on the two final playoff spots. Between Boston, Detroit and Orlando.

Bahku,

I think the main issue is yes your team is young, but you have team without a guy I would consider a leader. Neither Melo, Harris, or Lopez has shown they have what it takes to lead a team to a title now or in the future. There is no 2009 Brandon Roy - young superstar and definite leader - on your team. IMO.  :)

Not in the future ... really??

Devin Harris may not have had the pieces on his team yet to lead to a championship, but he is definitely a leader, and has shown that in his willingness to share the ball, his quickness, athleticism, (6-7 1/2 wingspan), his explosiveness, running the pick-and-roll to perfection, (45% of his offense), and getting the ball to his other scorers efficiently.

Just because a player hasn't been put in the right situation, doesn't mean he's not capable of carrying that load, and I think you're selling Devin a bit short here. You sometimes have to take players out of their context to assess them on their own merits, and a fantasy draft is one of those times.

Melo has plenty of star power to supply the team with energy and incentive and the drive to chase a title, but again, he's just needed the right people around him to do so, and a faster, more athletic point guard than Chauncey. Billups is a superb PG, don't get me wrong, but I don't believe he was the best fit for Carmelo.

Devin is much more of a complimentary guard, one that can explode to the basket, run the pick-and-roll, shoot, or get the ball to his superstar when and where he needs it, and run the floor without being a ball-hog, (as some of the "superstar" guards have a tendency of being). I think the one-two punch of chemistry that he has already established with Brook, will encourage each to come out of their shells, so to speak, and energize them to raising the bar alongside their star.

I think you're also selling Jerryd Bayless and Jimmer Fredette short, as Bayless has already shown flashes of brilliance, and Fredette earned just about every award possible in the NCAA, and is a very mature young man who almost everyone feels is an excellent fit for the NBA.

I did a great deal of homework on these Rookies before I picked them, and as you'll see in my press conference, they are not just extraordinary basketball players, they are extraordinary people as well, with experience beyond their years.

Thanks and a TP for the post, Kane, (and Fafnir), much appreciated ... and I'm hoping to have more time on Wednesday and not be confined to five-minutes-here-and-there like I have been most of the time lately. I'd love to be more involved in the running dialogue ... it's a bit like shooting in the dark when I come home at 11:30 and try to catch-up with all that's gone on.

Crossing my fingers ... thanks again! :)


By the way, Devin Harris has a much better chance of leading a team to a championship than Brandon Roy ever will, (unfortunately). ;)
« Last Edit: July 25, 2011, 05:27:05 PM by Bahku »
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1197 on: July 25, 2011, 05:25:37 PM »

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Ok, so the Cavaliers have a center now. There are you happy?

PG Ricky Rubio/ Aaron Brooks/ Eric Bledsoe
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SF Danilo Gallinari/ Reggie Williams/ Dahntay Jones
PF Blake Griffin/ Ekpe Udoh/ Trevor Booker
C Pau Gasol/ Timofey Mozgov

Question, could I start a mended Josh Howard? 62 playoff games and when he was last healthy he averaged 18 points on 45% shooting, 5.1 rebounds, 1.6 assists, and 1.1 steals as a plus defender.

Heck even in an injury plagued 2009-10 Howard was good for 12.7 points, 3.6 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 26 minutes. Although his offensive efficiency has suffered markedly.

This team I think is a bit improved by that last trade and I like a lot more now.  I think adding Pau's willingness to play inside/outside allows me to envision this team being a lot more effective offensively vs. Garnett who is basically just turning into a jump shooting PF.

Defense is still the obvious question mark for this team.
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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1198 on: July 25, 2011, 05:42:40 PM »

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Need thoughts on my rotation, where/if I should make changes.

PG: Lowry (37), Sessions (11)
SG: Harden (32), Morrow (16)
SF: Delfino (25), Derrick Williams (13), Jonas Jerebko (10)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (24), Derrick Williams (15), Jonas Jerebko (6)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (10), Robin Lopez (6)

Deep Bench: Gerald Hendersen, Anthony Tolliver, Patty Mills

I'd increase Harden and Lopez' minutes and half Jerebko's

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #1199 on: July 25, 2011, 05:44:18 PM »

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Need thoughts on my rotation, where/if I should make changes.

PG: Lowry (37), Sessions (11)
SG: Harden (32), Morrow (16)
SF: Delfino (25), Derrick Williams (13), Jonas Jerebko (10)
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire (24), Derrick Williams (15), Jonas Jerebko (6)
C: Andrew Bogut (32), Amar'e Stoudemire (10), Robin Lopez (6)

Deep Bench: Gerald Hendersen, Anthony Tolliver, Patty Mills

I'd increase Harden and Lopez' minutes and half Jerebko's

... and then half Jerebko's again after you give Delfino the 30 minutes or so per game he deserves. ;)


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