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Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #915 on: July 21, 2011, 08:37:08 PM »

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Good. Itd be a shame if nobody got a good Sisqo reference.

For the kids out there, Sisqo was a terrible affliction that accosted America's senses from 1997 to 2002. You'll know him as 'That thong song guy'.

Or, the lead singer of the band that sung 'In My Bed'.... anyone?.... anyone?

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #916 on: July 21, 2011, 08:42:13 PM »

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Good. Itd be a shame if nobody got a good Sisqo reference.

For the kids out there, Sisqo was a terrible affliction that accosted America's senses from 1997 to 2002. You'll know him as 'That thong song guy'.

Or, the lead singer of the band that sung 'In My Bed'.... anyone?.... anyone?

All I can remember is 'someone's been sleeping in my beeeeddddd'

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« Reply #917 on: July 21, 2011, 08:42:38 PM »

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Good. Itd be a shame if nobody got a good Sisqo reference.

For the kids out there, Sisqo was a terrible affliction that accosted America's senses from 1997 to 2002. You'll know him as 'That thong song guy'.

I'll always remember him as the Black Guy from Get Over It:


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« Reply #918 on: July 21, 2011, 08:44:35 PM »

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For educational purposes only.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #919 on: July 21, 2011, 08:46:11 PM »

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Good. Itd be a shame if nobody got a good Sisqo reference.

For the kids out there, Sisqo was a terrible affliction that accosted America's senses from 1997 to 2002. You'll know him as 'That thong song guy'.

Or, the lead singer of the band that sung 'In My Bed'.... anyone?.... anyone?

Hahaha...now that is some CORNBALL 90's music. I love it. Reminds me of being in a super-hot record store in the summertime deciding between getting Ini Kamoze record in tape or CD, because tapes were cheaper, but they were like riding a moped.

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« Reply #920 on: July 21, 2011, 08:47:54 PM »

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Better 90's one hit wonder: BlackStreet's No Diggity, or Montell Jordan's This Is How We Do It.

Its like arguing LeBron vs Durant. Your heart says Durant, but you know LeBron is better.

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« Reply #921 on: July 21, 2011, 08:48:12 PM »

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After revisiting "The Thong Song",  That song would be amazing if you gave it new words. Just a waste of a beat.

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« Reply #922 on: July 21, 2011, 08:49:24 PM »

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Better 90's one hit wonder: BlackStreet's No Diggity, or Montell Jordan's This Is How We Do It.

Its like arguing LeBron vs Durant. Your heart says Durant, but you know LeBron is better.

And in the end you know neither of them are going to ever be Michael:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aofoBrFNdg

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« Reply #923 on: July 21, 2011, 10:06:56 PM »

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McDyess was said to be retiring at the end of last season so what's the deal with that? 
San Antonio and McDyess decided to leave the decision until the end of the lockout.

Word is that he will consider returning if the season is shortened considerably but won't be back if there is a full schedule on the books.


Until he is retired, he is not retired.


Like Wallace

Big Z

KG (because we all heard the talk of him retiring if the lockout goes the distance)



Therefor, I am going ahead with the fact that he is on an NBA roster. 


And I expect Kanter to pass him on the depth chart before the end of the season. 

Re: 2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings
« Reply #924 on: July 21, 2011, 10:37:46 PM »

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Better 90's one hit wonder: BlackStreet's No Diggity, or Montell Jordan's This Is How We Do It.

Its like arguing LeBron vs Durant. Your heart says Durant, but you know LeBron is better.

I'd like to make a request to temporarily lift all  Celtics Blogs rules so I can tell you guys how much better "no diggity" is than "this is how we do it."

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« Reply #925 on: July 21, 2011, 10:49:33 PM »

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Better question:

Is there a more underrated 90's R&B song than Soul 4 Real "Every Little Thing I Do (You're On My Mind)"

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« Reply #926 on: July 21, 2011, 11:48:57 PM »

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Memphis Grizzlies  GM: Donoghus  Coach: Doug Collins
PG Derrick Rose/ Brandon Knight/ Mike Bibby
SG Ray Allen/ Kyle Korver/ Michael Redd
SF Tayshaun Prince/ Omri Casspi
PF Kris Humphries/ Patrick Patterson/ Kenneth Faried
C Roy Hibbert/ Spencer Hawes


Pros: Derrick Rose won the MVP for a reason. Offensively his team wasn't that talented, or at least, it didn't really click as well as a lot of people (myself included) thought it would. He got past that, because they played smothering defense, and kept the score close enough for Derrick Rose to be the difference maker. He can score on any defense in the NBA. He's a leader, he's not a great passer, but he's good enough, and he's a heck of a competitor. This team complements him well.

One of the biggest flaws in Chicago's system is that their 2 guards were mediocre to just plain bad. Memphis has mediocre (Kyle Korver) and likely bad (Michael Redd), but that's fine because they have top-10 in Ray Allen. Sure, he's slower this year than he was last year, and he'll be slower next year than he was this year, but 44% 3pt shooting and 16.5 points a game is no accident. He's smart, he knows his limits, he'll let the offense come to him, and he'll blossom here.

Tayshaun Prince has been held captive by the evil Joe Dumars for far too long, and finally he's going to be set free. He's not as good as Luol Deng, but he's only 31, he can still D up, and score. I'd expect him to regress a little from his 14ppg back down to around 12 or so, but that's just because he'll be able to pick and chose his shots more, and I expect his FG% to either jump a little to the 49% range or stay at least static. I also expect less forced 3s, so his 3pt % should go up a little too. Between Ray Allen and Tayshaun combined the Griz have already surpassed the Bulls in terms of quality 1-3.

The depth on this team is full of talent, experience, or potential, and that's about what you'd want to see. Casspi and Patterson in particular I hope to jump a step forward next year into full fledged players.

While Roy Hibbert isn't near Joakim Noah's level as a defensive leader and captain, he's way beyond his level as a scorer, and that should really even out the attack for Memphis. Chicago had Boozer and Noah, but Memphis basically switched it on us and put their offensive skill at the 5 and the hustle monster at the 4. 10-12 pts from Humphries-Kardashian and 16-18 from Hibbert should suffice and 1-5 as a unit I think Memphis is better offensively than Chicago was. Sub in quality scoring depth in Hawes, Patterson, Casspi and Korver, and you got a well rounded attack that should be very potent.

Rebounding in the starting unit should be better than most too when hibbert and humphries are together. 

Cons: 1-3 defensively this team should be as good as Chicago, but the 4 and 5 as a pair are nowhere near Chicago's level. Humphries is nothing if not enthusiastic, but he's not a defensive nightmare. He's more like a persistent mosquito that will annoy you all night, but not really hold you back much. Hibbert while a shot blocker and a big body, doesn't have Noah's awareness or killer instinct. Joakim Noah is offended when his team gives up a bucket. Hibbert is not. That's a huge difference because with that, I don't know who Memphis' defensive heart and soul is.

It doesn't get much better on the bench either. Hawes is no defensive powerhouse like Asik is for Chicago for 10 mins a game, Patterson and Faried have the athleticism to be dangerous but I don't think you can count on them to be 'stoppers'. Casspi came into the league with a rep as a tenacious defender but he hasn't consistently shown it yet, and Kyle Korver pretty much just gets by. 

The other bad thing about not having a defensive leader is that guys who rely on solid team defense to play what we see at home as "really good defense" become exposed a little. Tayshaun should be solid, but Ray Allen I wonder about, with his declining quickness. Mistakes are easier to hide when Kevin Garnett and Jermaine O'neal have your back, but Hibbert and Humphries are going to have their hands full just guarding their men.

Recommendation: David West is on the block and I'd love to see him here. You'd lose some defense and some rebounding and some hustle, but you'd make your best strengths stronger (offense) with a proven pick and roll man to pair with Rose.

Synopsis: I think this is a solidly built offensive team but a bit of a house of cards defensively. Most nights they should be solid, but some nights its gonna fall apart, and that's keeping them from elite status. Still a playoff team, and in the actual NBA I'd expect nothing less than a 4-seed.

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« Reply #927 on: July 21, 2011, 11:55:14 PM »

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821 words Dons. Ill expect that 6er of Racer-5 sometime next week.

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« Reply #928 on: July 22, 2011, 12:06:26 AM »

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PG: Kyle Lowry
SG: James Harden
SF: Carlos Delfino
PF: Amar'e Stoudemire
C: Andrew Bogut

Heavy Rotation: Derrick Williams (SF/PF), Fransisco Garcia (SG/SF), Anthony Tolliver (PF/C)

10-15 mins: Ramon Sessions (PG/SG), Tiago Splitter (PF/C)

Bench: Jonas Jerebko (SF/PF), Patty Mills (PG), Marshon Brooks (SG)

That should be about it. I'd like to hear thoughts about the rotation setup as is. I'd like to get Sessions and Jerbko more involved, but I think with the skillset of my starters in mind, this is the best course of action.

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« Reply #929 on: July 22, 2011, 12:11:55 AM »

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And I expect Kanter to pass him on the depth chart before the end of the season. 

What do you expect out of Kanter this season? How many minutes are you mentally thinking he'll play, and what kind of #'s do you see him putting up?

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