2011 CB draft: How does my team look?/division rankings

[Who]

Team is really coming together:

Lowry/Sessions
Harden/Garcia
Delfino/Derrick Williams
Amar'e/Derrick Williams
Bogut/Splitter

I liked you moving D.Williams to the bench. I didn't want to see him end up there but after acquiring James Harden ... I thought your starting lineup had too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Plugging in Delfino there as a glue guy and moving D.Williams into the sixth man is a much better distribution of responsibilities. 

Overall, I think you have improved your squad immensely today.

I didn't like where you where with TA and Maggette in combination with your other players. I didn't think that group of players would function well together and I was considering dropping your team off my list of contenders, but after today's moves, I think you have pushed your team back in the right direction.

I'd need to check other folks' rosters but your squad is probably top two in the West along with Sacramento. Very nicely put together roster. A lot of talent and balance.

[indeedproceed]

Again, like I said he's far from an ideal 3rd guy so I really don't value him that highly, but I don't value Harden that highly either.  Are you thinking about him if he reaches his potential?

As a starter, I think Harden is a 16-17ppg threat with very good rebounding and playmaking ability and average defense. A very efficient scorer and overall offensive player who is a major threat both off the dribble (out of the pick and roll) and with his set jump shot (great range). Very easy to play with. Complements ball-dominant stars very well and creates shots for role players.

Rebounding and playmaking?  In 28 mpg after the all-star break, he averaged 2.8 and 2.4 rebounds and assists per game.  I agree with the offense and the shooting threat, but I have always thought of Harden as a pretty one-dimensional player as a scorer.  (But better than most one-dimensional players in the sense that he's not necessarily a liability in other aspects, just very average to slightly below average)

Do you think Ray Allen is a one-dimensional player?

Absolutely I do.  Luckily for him, he is the best ever in the history of the sport of basketball at that one-dimension, so he's had a very successful career.

Yeah I completely disagree. Ray Allen is way more than just a shooter, even at his age.

[indeedproceed]

Team is really coming together:

Lowry/Sessions
Harden/Garcia
Delfino/Derrick Williams
Amar'e/Derrick Williams
Bogut/Splitter

I liked you moving D.Williams to the bench. I didn't want to see him but after acquiring James Harden ... I thought your starting lineup had too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Plugging in Delfino there as a glue guy and moving D.Williams into the sixth man is a much better distribution of responsibilities. 

Overall, I think you have improved your squad immensely today.

I didn't like where you where with TA and Maggette in combination with your other players. I didn't think that group of players would function well together and I was considering dropping your team off my list of contenders, but after today's moves, I think you have pushed your team back in the right direction.

I'd need to check other folks' rosters but your squad is probably top two in the West along with Sacramento. Very nicely put together roster. A lot of talent and balance.

Cha-Ching!

[The Walker Wiggle]

PG Ricky Rubio
SG J.J. Redick/ Thabo Sefolosha
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Blake Griffin/Channing Frye
C Kevin Garnett

[mgent]

Out of the West, who did you consider a better contender than Memphis, without Gay?  I had them in the top 3 behind Dallas and OKC.

Sorry, trying to catch up with what has been happening while I was away.

I had the LA Lakers ahead of them.

The Grizzlies were a major surprise to me. I didn't think they'd beat the Spurs. I thought San An's pick and roll game would cause them more trouble than the Grizzlies big man advantage but the Grizzlies defense was very impressive and much more effective than I had given them credit for (TA playing a big role there). It was only after that first round victory when I began to look at them as a team that make a run in the playoffs.

I thought the Grizzlies would have a fighting chance against each of the three teams remaining in the West but I would have considered the others the favourite in each matchup.

Well I'm not talking about a 3 man team like Bosh on Miami, I mean on a really deep well-rounded team, like say the Mavs.  Replace Marion with TA and they're still a championship team.

Kidd = I regard Kidd as the third best player on last year's Mavs.

Marion and JT fourth and fifth in some order. Undecided.

Not sure Dallas wins without Marion's post game and scoring output if they switched Marion for TA ... but it's a close call, I'm not sure, need to think more about that ... TA could replace Marion and keep Dallas close to where they were/are with Marion.

Weren't TA and Marion pretty equal in scoring output on a per-minute basis last season?

Personally I don't think Kidd was that indispensable in the Finals.  Take him off and they still have plenty of offense, take Marion off and they have no defensive stopper.  You NEED a defensive stopper to win the title.

For some reason they were at their best with JT on LeBron, Marion on Wade, + JJ Barrea.  Obviously Kidd played a bigger role throughout the rest of season and playoffs, but they needed all 4 of them.  That's the type of championship team I could see Tony on, one that badly needs his defense, but is so well-rounded that there's no clear consensus on who is the 3rd most important player.

[indeedproceed]

PG Ricky Rubio
SG J.J. Redick/ Thabo Sefolosha
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Blake Griffin/Channing Frye
C Kevin Garnett

Explain to me why all those negative reports that framed Rubio as merely 'pedestrian' at best from Europe should just be disregarded.

[Donoghus]

PG Ricky Rubio
SG J.J. Redick/ Thabo Sefolosha
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Blake Griffin/Channing Frye
C Kevin Garnett

How many minutes per game do you plan on playing KG at the Center position?

Any concerns about starting a kid with absolutely zero minutes at the NBA level at the PG position?

[Lucky17]

Still looking to tinker with this squad.

PG: Nash / Udrih
SG: Turner / Terry / Miller
SF: Ariza
PF: Wallace / Haslem
C:  Noah

[Rondo2287]

PG: Chauncey/ Jarret Jack
SG: Wes Matthews
SF: Lebron
PF: Paul Millsap/Borris Diaw
C:  Tyson Chandler


4 More Picks tomorrow

[Who]

Washington Bullets
GM: wdleehi  
Coach: Jeff Van Gundy

Starters
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat

Bench
PG/SG Delonte West
SF/SG Shane Battier
PF/C  Ryan Anderson
C     Enes Kanter

I like Delonte West a great deal as a backup combo guard but I wonder about him on this roster.

If Delonte is at the PG spot while Felton is resting, I think your squad only really has two other shot creators on it with Granger and Aldridge. And Granger is 1-2 dribble player who gets in trouble when he is asked to do more off the bounce. Plus, one of those two guys is likely to be resting while D-West is on the court. So only one shot creator.

Battier and Fields are fairly limited. Stand still shooters who rely on others to get them high percentage looks. Ditto for Ryan Anderson. Gortat is a garbage man.

I thought your roster would be better off with an aggressive playmaking backup PG in the JJ Barea mold than a limited passing combo guard + limited floor general like D.West.

I would consider sliding Delonte over to the backup SG and bringing in a playmaking or scoring PG with your next pick. Bringing in someone who is more creative offensively to better suit your supporting cast's offensive skill-sets (Fields, Battier, R.Anderson + M.Gortat).

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I don't know, maybe Kanter can help here. Give the lineup another shot-creator. Although that will pretty much erase all of Aldridge's minutes at the five.

Or play Raymond Felton in the second unit. Give him 36-38 minutes a night and only use Delonte at the PG slot when both Granger and Aldridge on the floor.

That might work.

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A little uneasy with Delonte alongside those players as a PG.

I'm not sure whether you need to replace him or if one of the above is a better answer to the situation.

[Edgar]

Pandas: The best team nobodys talking about



One more pick to do in some seconds.
I accept help in this one cause 4 players are on my mind right now

[KCattheStripe]

People are sleeping on the Celtics. On Celticsblog.

[action781]

Again, like I said he's far from an ideal 3rd guy so I really don't value him that highly, but I don't value Harden that highly either.  Are you thinking about him if he reaches his potential?

As a starter, I think Harden is a 16-17ppg threat with very good rebounding and playmaking ability and average defense. A very efficient scorer and overall offensive player who is a major threat both off the dribble (out of the pick and roll) and with his set jump shot (great range). Very easy to play with. Complements ball-dominant stars very well and creates shots for role players.

Rebounding and playmaking?  In 28 mpg after the all-star break, he averaged 2.8 and 2.4 rebounds and assists per game.  I agree with the offense and the shooting threat, but I have always thought of Harden as a pretty one-dimensional player as a scorer.  (But better than most one-dimensional players in the sense that he's not necessarily a liability in other aspects, just very average to slightly below average)

Do you think Ray Allen is a one-dimensional player?

Absolutely I do.  Luckily for him, he is the best ever in the history of the sport of basketball at that one-dimension, so he's had a very successful career.

Yeah I completely disagree. Ray Allen is way more than just a shooter, even at his age.

Eh, agree to disagree.  I don't really see what basketball skill he brings that's better than the average player at that.  IMO, not rebounding, not passing, not ball handling, not getting into the lane, not anticipating steals.  Not too many other dimensions to one's game that I can really think of.  The closest one is being able to defend a perimeter player well, but I think that's a result of the system he's been in and most SG could do what he does if they were in his place.  Even Von Wafer started to show an ability to that and he was considered completely clueless defensively before he showed up in Boston.

But, Faf is right, Ray was a more well rounded player earlier in his career.  But I still his shooting is why he was a superstar all those years.

[KCattheStripe]

Washington Bullets
GM: wdleehi  
Coach: Jeff Van Gundy

Starters
PG Raymond Felton
SG Landry Fields
SF Danny Granger
PF Lamarcus Aldridge
C Marcin Gortat

Bench
PG/SG Delonte West
SF/SG Shane Battier
PF/C  Ryan Anderson
C     Enes Kanter

I like Delonte West a great deal as a backup combo guard but I wonder about him on this roster.

If Delonte is at the PG spot while Felton is resting, I think your squad only really has two other shot creators on it with Granger and Aldridge. And Granger is 1-2 dribble player who gets in trouble when he is asked to do more off the bounce. Plus, one of those two guys is likely to be resting while D-West is on the court. So only one shot creator.

Battier and Fields are fairly limited. Stand still shooters who rely on others to get them high percentage looks. Ditto for Ryan Anderson. Gortat is a garbage man.

I thought your roster would be better off with an aggressive playmaking backup PG in the JJ Barea mold than a limited passing combo guard + limited floor general like D.West.

I would consider sliding Delonte over to the backup SG and bringing in a playmaking or scoring PG with your next pick. Bringing in someone who is more creative offensively to better suit your supporting cast's offensive skill-sets (Fields, Battier, R.Anderson + M.Gortat).

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I don't know, maybe Kanter can help here. Give the lineup another shot-creator. Although that will pretty much erase all of Aldridge's minutes at the five.

Or play Raymond Felton in the second unit. Give him 36-38 minutes a night and only use Delonte at the PG slot when both Granger and Aldridge on the floor.

That might work.

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A little uneasy with Delonte alongside those players as a PG.

I'm not sure whether you need to replace him or if one of the above is a better answer to the situation.

I agree with Who that you need one more guy who can get his own shot.

[mgent]

Again, like I said he's far from an ideal 3rd guy so I really don't value him that highly, but I don't value Harden that highly either.  Are you thinking about him if he reaches his potential?

As a starter, I think Harden is a 16-17ppg threat with very good rebounding and playmaking ability and average defense. A very efficient scorer and overall offensive player who is a major threat both off the dribble (out of the pick and roll) and with his set jump shot (great range). Very easy to play with. Complements ball-dominant stars very well and creates shots for role players.

Rebounding and playmaking?  In 28 mpg after the all-star break, he averaged 2.8 and 2.4 rebounds and assists per game.  I agree with the offense and the shooting threat, but I have always thought of Harden as a pretty one-dimensional player as a scorer.  (But better than most one-dimensional players in the sense that he's not necessarily a liability in other aspects, just very average to slightly below average)

Do you think Ray Allen is a one-dimensional player?

Absolutely I do.  Luckily for him, he is the best ever in the history of the sport of basketball at that one-dimension, so he's had a very successful career.

How so?  Have you never seen how good Ray at putting the ball on the floor and driving to the hole?  That's the difference between Ray Allen and Reggie Miller.

Not even taking into consideration his passing and defense.