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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1995 on: July 14, 2011, 06:06:38 PM »

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Defense.Wins.Championships.

If that's true, why am I looking at 5 guys dunking? I'm confused.

Is it dunks, or defense?

A) Great defense leas to highlight reel dunks.
B) Defense makes for terrible photographs.
C) Shut up.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1996 on: July 14, 2011, 06:07:06 PM »

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Funny, I thought it got you a second round exit.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1997 on: July 14, 2011, 06:08:24 PM »

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Funny, I thought it got you a second round exit.


"Uh, Bon Jour, KC."

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1998 on: July 14, 2011, 06:10:57 PM »

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Funny, I thought it got you a second round exit.


"Uh, Bon Jour?"
My bad, I forgot when those guys play on the same court it's a first round exit for Tony Parker. So TP will suffer a season ending injury in the first round which is why you guys will lose in the 2nd.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1999 on: July 14, 2011, 06:11:58 PM »

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The only thing you can say about Pandas is they are little old in the Big Men spot
where you need the movility the less
YEt you praise team with VERY OLD guards
try to convince me that they will be able to run behind Monta and Deron all over the place

Come on I am not talking anymore because it seems the fear turns into hate here...

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Theres more talent and scoring and efficiency in this teamss toenail than in the rest of the league.

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Ellis is a terribly inefficient player.

You keep hyping your team, Edgar, but it just rings hollow to me. John Hollinger says:

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His team has won 12 games all year and yet they play dramatically better when he's off the floor; that's a pretty [dang]ing statement there. Ellis has a high scoring average but once you let out the air from the hyper pace and all the minutes he plays, it's not that impressive. Additionally, he's one of the league's least efficient offensive players; he also creates little for others despite having several talented scorers around him. I don't mean to turn this into a rip job -- he's a talented young player who is pretty good right now and will only get better. But promoting him as an All-Star is completely preposterous.

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Ellis has played 87% of Golden State's minutes this year .. in the 13% he doesn't play, the Warriors are outscoring opponents by 7.1 points per 100 possessions. Yes, outscoring.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30406

No hate, Edgar. Or fear, for that matter. Just having a hard time believing the hype.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2000 on: July 14, 2011, 06:12:09 PM »

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I am looking to get another pick in the 5th round. If anybody wants to trade picks I can part with anything except my 5.17. Players can be involved on either side if needed.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2001 on: July 14, 2011, 06:14:03 PM »

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2002 on: July 14, 2011, 06:18:18 PM »

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Funny, I thought it got you a second round exit.


"Uh, Bon Jour?"
My bad, I forgot when those guys play on the same court it's a first round exit for Tony Parker. So TP will suffer a season ending injury in the first round which is why you guys will lose in the 2nd.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2003 on: July 14, 2011, 06:21:27 PM »

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Just so we are clear...no one on the Sacramento Kings is what can be described as old.....just saying.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2004 on: July 14, 2011, 06:22:26 PM »

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Just so we are clear...no one on the Sacramento Kings is what can be described as old.....just saying.

But you could describe one as a self-destructive egomaniac who turtles when the stakes are high.

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« Reply #2005 on: July 14, 2011, 06:23:39 PM »

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2006 on: July 14, 2011, 06:24:02 PM »

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Are you believing Hollinger or Edgar

Really?
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2007 on: July 14, 2011, 06:28:19 PM »

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Just so we are clear...no one on the Sacramento Kings is what can be described as old.....just saying.

But you could describe one as a self-destructive egomaniac who turtles when the stakes are high.
And you could describe one as clearly the best player in basketball.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2008 on: July 14, 2011, 06:29:41 PM »

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Are you believing Hollinger or Edgar

Really?

Here's another good read:

http://bestnbanews.info/2011/06/09/monta-ellis-trade-rumors-include-orlando-magic-an-analysis/

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Crеаtіng shots іѕ nοt a problem fοr Monta Ellis

Over thе last two seasons, οnlу three players hаνе averaged more shot attempts, per minute, thаn Ellis. Thеіr names аrе Kobe, Carmelo, аnd Dwyane. Perhaps уου′ve heard οf thеm.


Mаkіng shots іѕ a problem fοr Monta Ellis
      
Over thе same span, οnlу six players hаνе averaged more thаn one shot attempt еνеrу two minutes. Ellis ranks last аmοng thеm іn efficiency, wіth a Trυе Shooting mаrk οf 52.7. Last season, thе average NBAer hаd a Trυе Shooting mаrk οf 54.3.

In short, Ellis takes a lot οf shots аt below-average efficiency.

Still, Ellis саn score a ton…

Yου don’t rank аmοng thе league’s top-10 scorers fοr two straight seasons οn accident. In 144 games ѕіnсе 2009/10, Ellis hаѕ scored 30-plus points 45 times. Thаt’s roughly three times еνеrу ten games.

Aѕ a team, thе Magic hаνе 25 such games іn thе same span. Wing players account fοr οnlу four οf thеm.
  
… bυt ѕοmе factors artificially inflate Ellis’ stats

Ellis hаѕ led thе league іn minutes per game ѕіnсе 2009/10, whісh gives hіm extra opportunities tο boost hіѕ per-game scoring

Further, thе Warriors play аt a frenetic pace, leading thе league wіth a whopping 100.4 possessions per game іn 2009/10 before dialing іt down tο 94.8 last season. Thаt wаѕ still thе fifth-highest figure іn thе league. Hе plays a ton οf minutes οn a ludicrously fаѕt team, giving hіm hundreds more possessions tο υѕе over thе course οf a full season thаn a player οn a slower team wουld. And thе Magic аrе nοt a fаѕt team.
 
Fοr аll hіѕ athleticism аnd speed, Ellis takes a lot οf jumpers

Ellis іѕ a highlight-reel talent whο seems tο mаkе аt lеаѕt five уου′ve-gοt-tο-bе-kidding-mе-whаt-іѕ-thіѕ-I-don’t-even layups each season, ѕο one mіght thіnk hе′s a tremendously aggressive driver whο scores wіth ease near thе rim.

Thаt’s simply nοt thе case. According tο Synergy Sports Technology, 66.3 percent οf Ellis’ shot attempts іn a halfcourt offense–аnd Orlando’s offense іѕ heavily halfcourt-based–аrе jumpers. Though аn athletic dynamo, Ellis draws a shooting foul οn јυѕt 7.6 percent οf hіѕ possessions, whісh ranks lower thаn thе Magic’s team average οf 8 percent last season. In fairness, thаt’s still better thаn аnу Orlando wing managed. I’ve argued before thаt thе Magic need tο dο a better job аt drawing fouls. Ellis helps, іf slightly, іn thаt regard. Bυt don’t thіnk οf hіm аѕ a slasher.
 
Golden State consistently plays better wіth Ellis οff thе floor

It’s hard tο ignore hοw well thе Warriors play wіth Ellis, dynamic though hе іѕ, οn thе bench. Last season, thеіr offense improved 0.51 points per 100 possessions wіth hіm resting, whісh isn’t much. Bυt defensively? A staggering 6.88-points-per-100-possessions improvement.

Thе splits frοm 2009/10 аrе even more dramatic, wіth thе Warriors playing 11.52 points per 100 possessions worse overall wіth Ellis οn thе court.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #2009 on: July 14, 2011, 06:31:55 PM »

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Just so we are clear...no one on the Sacramento Kings is what can be described as old.....just saying.

But you could describe one as a self-destructive egomaniac who turtles when the stakes are high.
And you could describe one as clearly the best player in basketball.

Just to be clear: We're both talking about Wesley Matthews, right?