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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1935 on: July 14, 2011, 04:31:22 PM »

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Yeah, whenever you guys are ready to do the adoration of my team, i'm ready.

Lowry/?/Derek Williams/Amar'e Stoudemire/Andrew Bogut

I'm pretty surprised no ones mentioned this team as one of the better teams out there, maybe if you had a Wilson Chandler type on your team people would be talking about it more.

haha.

Honestly though - and I'm sure this'll be met with a lot of 'my team says hello' messages - I don't see why people aren't rating this team higher. That's a dominant front court that's going to create a lot of trouble.

Against most teams these 2 are going to create a significant point advantage that's going to be hard to make up in the other three positions.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1936 on: July 14, 2011, 04:32:15 PM »

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1937 on: July 14, 2011, 04:35:37 PM »

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I like IPs team. IMO, Kings have the best team right now. Not a Pandas fan. Jamison is looking old and done, Brand is injury prone, Ellis/Williams gets hurt by bigger backcourts, plus too many guys who want the ball.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1938 on: July 14, 2011, 04:37:57 PM »

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I concur. I think Jamison-Brand are going to struggle with any tandem w/ height and/or speed.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1939 on: July 14, 2011, 04:40:43 PM »

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Yeah, whenever you guys are ready to do the adoration of my team, i'm ready.

Lowry/?/Derek Williams/Amar'e Stoudemire/Andrew Bogut

I'm pretty surprised no ones mentioned this team as one of the better teams out there, maybe if you had a Wilson Chandler type on your team people would be talking about it more.

haha.

Honestly though - and I'm sure this'll be met with a lot of 'my team says hello' messages - I don't see why people aren't rating this team higher. That's a dominant front court that's going to create a lot of trouble.

Against most teams these 2 are going to create a significant point advantage that's going to be hard to make up in the other three positions.

Preach!

I'd say hands down best frontcourt in the league, and with Williams on board now, and Amar'e's ability to switch over (he was a 2nd team All-NBA center last year, NBD.), the versatility we have with the bigs is currently unmatched.

I'm not gonna waste your time selling Lowry right now. I'm not going to, because I will later. But I will.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1940 on: July 14, 2011, 04:41:15 PM »

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I concur. I think Jamison-Brand are going to struggle with any tandem w/ height and/or speed.

Yeah, I rank them at the bottom of the Central Division PF/C tandems.

Z-Bo/Gasol, Josh Smith/Okafor, and Haslem/Noah are all faster/quicker, stronger, and better defensively.

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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1941 on: July 14, 2011, 04:43:12 PM »

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I concur. I think Jamison-Brand are going to struggle with any tandem w/ height and/or speed.

Yeah, I rank them at the bottom of the Central Division PF/C tandems.

Z-Bo/Gasol, Josh Smith/Okafor, and Haslem/Noah are all faster/quicker, stronger, and better defensively.



Faster/Quicker? No way.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1942 on: July 14, 2011, 04:45:00 PM »

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Preach!

I'd say hands down best frontcourt in the league, and with Williams on board now, and Amar'e's ability to switch over (he was a 2nd team All-NBA center last year, NBD.), the versatility we have with the bigs is currently unmatched.

I'm not gonna waste your time selling Lowry right now. I'm not going to, because I will later. But I will.

Conversely, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Amare Stoudemire and an undersized rookie could be a competent defensive front court.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1943 on: July 14, 2011, 04:45:08 PM »

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I think KWhit's Denver Nuggets team is really dangerous. He holds the next two picks too and there's a couple of guys available who could really strengthen that further. Give them a very tough starting lineup.

The Kings, Pacers and Blazers have excellent squads too. Maybe OKC.

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« Reply #1944 on: July 14, 2011, 04:45:37 PM »

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Say all you want
Jamison is better whan any seconf foward there
Just tank like a madman PP style last year

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« Reply #1945 on: July 14, 2011, 04:48:33 PM »

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Preach!

I'd say hands down best frontcourt in the league, and with Williams on board now, and Amar'e's ability to switch over (he was a 2nd team All-NBA center last year, NBD.), the versatility we have with the bigs is currently unmatched.

I'm not gonna waste your time selling Lowry right now. I'm not going to, because I will later. But I will.

Conversely, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Amare Stoudemire and an undersized rookie could be a competent defensive front court.
They wouldn't be, but they'd dunk and get the line an awful lot. It'd be an offensive line up to be sure.

Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1946 on: July 14, 2011, 04:50:16 PM »

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I concur. I think Jamison-Brand are going to struggle with any tandem w/ height and/or speed.

Yeah, I rank them at the bottom of the Central Division PF/C tandems.

As far as your guards running by John Wall. That's not happening Deron scores because he's big and strong for a pg not because he has elite quickness.
Z-Bo/Gasol, Josh Smith/Okafor, and Haslem/Noah are all faster/quicker, stronger, and better defensively.



Faster/Quicker? No way.
Josh Smith is one of the best athletes at the 4 position. He is certainly faster than Jamison. Even if they are of similar speeds, Jamison hasn't even played much defense and he's not about to start now.

Elton Brand is slowed down by his walker so most centers are faster than him.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1947 on: July 14, 2011, 04:50:36 PM »

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Yeah, whenever you guys are ready to do the adoration of my team, i'm ready.

Lowry/?/Derek Williams/Amar'e Stoudemire/Andrew Bogut

I'm pretty surprised no ones mentioned this team as one of the better teams out there, maybe if you had a Wilson Chandler type on your team people would be talking about it more.

haha.

Honestly though - and I'm sure this'll be met with a lot of 'my team says hello' messages - I don't see why people aren't rating this team higher. That's a dominant front court that's going to create a lot of trouble.

Against most teams these 2 are going to create a significant point advantage that's going to be hard to make up in the other three positions.

And we have a PG who has consistently been one of the best in the league at getting into the lane at ease to draw defensive bigs and open up the o-boards for our big fellas.
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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1948 on: July 14, 2011, 04:51:14 PM »

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Preach!

I'd say hands down best frontcourt in the league, and with Williams on board now, and Amar'e's ability to switch over (he was a 2nd team All-NBA center last year, NBD.), the versatility we have with the bigs is currently unmatched.

I'm not gonna waste your time selling Lowry right now. I'm not going to, because I will later. But I will.

Conversely, you're going to have a hard time convincing me that Amare Stoudemire and an undersized rookie could be a competent defensive front court.

I can see that. People haven't knocked Williams' defensive abilities heading into the draft, and I see him as a net positive, and I don't believe Amar'e rep as a terrible defender, but if Amar'e is playing the 5 and Williams is playing the 4, that's a team that's not as concerned about stopping you as they are about outscoring you.

team nobody is mentioning:

Champkind's Warriors are solid right now, and nobody is mentioning them. He's got a starting 5 of solid, capable role players highlighted by Nowitzki, Lawson, and Jackson (Jordan being the weak point) and 2 more picks in the 5th round to round out his 7 man rotation. He'll be the deepest team in the league built around a superstar that just leapt from a fan favorite to a world champion. That's gonna be tough to beat.


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Re: 2011 CelticsBlog Draft Board
« Reply #1949 on: July 14, 2011, 04:51:43 PM »

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I concur. I think Jamison-Brand are going to struggle with any tandem w/ height and/or speed.

Yeah, I rank them at the bottom of the Central Division PF/C tandems.

As far as your guards running by John Wall. That's not happening Deron scores because he's big and strong for a pg not because he has elite quickness.
Z-Bo/Gasol, Josh Smith/Okafor, and Haslem/Noah are all faster/quicker, stronger, and better defensively.



Faster/Quicker? No way.
Josh Smith is one of the best athletes at the 4 position. He is certainly faster than Jamison. Even if they are of similar speeds, Jamison hasn't even played much defense and he's not about to start now.

Elton Brand is slowed down by his walker so most centers are faster than him.

My bad, misread your statement. I thought we were talking amare/bogut