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Quote from: Celtics18 on May 12, 2011, 05:23:56 PMQuote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 02:30:03 PMQuote from: Celtics18 on May 12, 2011, 02:06:03 PMQuote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 11:42:56 AMAs I said in my post, I do commend Doc on winning a title. But like I said, a number of coaches in this league would have won at least one title with this group. Again, as I said in my post, these 5+ minute periods without a single good look at the basket are inexcusable, and reflect on Doc. A great coach wouldn't let that happen so often. Tell me about a recent 5+ minute stretch of basketball where the Celtics didn't get a single good look. I hope your not referring to the end of game five against the Heat where we had two missed layups, a great look at a three by Ray Allen, and a good post up play by KG where he unfortunately didn't establish quite deep enough position. You're right, Game 5 of the Heat series isn't the best example, and that's why I referred to his entire tenure here in Boston, especially since KG and Killer Ray arrived. Off the top of my head...overtime of game 4, several times during the first two games of the Heat series, at least once in 3 of the games against the Knicks, Game 7 of the finals last year, Game 6 of the finals last year, and about 2,527 other times (in the regular season and the playoffs) that I can't specifically pinpoint off the top of my head. Especially over the past two years. Not sure this is even debatable.I'll look at overtime of game 4 a little later to see what happened in that one. All teams have offensive droughts. Of course, as Celtics fans when other teams go into droughts against us it's because of our defense. Yet, when we go into droughts it's because Doc's a lousy coach. I happen to think we have one of the most beautiful, diversified, intelligent offenses in the league. Unfortunately, sometimes over the course of the last 4 seasons it's been off it's rhythm. That doesn't make Doc a terrible coach. I never said Doc was a terrible coach. What I did say is that the regular offensive droughts we go on are largely his fault, that those lapses have cost us dearly the last two years, and that IMO he cannot be considered an elite NBA coach because of that. Other teams do go through droughts, but how many of them are as talented as we are offensively? And do they suffer these droughts even against mediocre/poor defensive teams as well? Because we do. And like I said, I understand that no player or team is perfect. I'm fine with guys missing shots, as long as they're GOOD SHOTS. But we have had so many 5+ minute periods in his tenure where we don't get a single good shot, and that's on Doc. The typical pattern is: possession one - moving screen; possession two - turnover; possession three - a terrible look that misses badly or a shot clock violation; repeat for 5-8 minutes. Sound familiar to anyone?
Quote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 02:30:03 PMQuote from: Celtics18 on May 12, 2011, 02:06:03 PMQuote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 11:42:56 AMAs I said in my post, I do commend Doc on winning a title. But like I said, a number of coaches in this league would have won at least one title with this group. Again, as I said in my post, these 5+ minute periods without a single good look at the basket are inexcusable, and reflect on Doc. A great coach wouldn't let that happen so often. Tell me about a recent 5+ minute stretch of basketball where the Celtics didn't get a single good look. I hope your not referring to the end of game five against the Heat where we had two missed layups, a great look at a three by Ray Allen, and a good post up play by KG where he unfortunately didn't establish quite deep enough position. You're right, Game 5 of the Heat series isn't the best example, and that's why I referred to his entire tenure here in Boston, especially since KG and Killer Ray arrived. Off the top of my head...overtime of game 4, several times during the first two games of the Heat series, at least once in 3 of the games against the Knicks, Game 7 of the finals last year, Game 6 of the finals last year, and about 2,527 other times (in the regular season and the playoffs) that I can't specifically pinpoint off the top of my head. Especially over the past two years. Not sure this is even debatable.I'll look at overtime of game 4 a little later to see what happened in that one. All teams have offensive droughts. Of course, as Celtics fans when other teams go into droughts against us it's because of our defense. Yet, when we go into droughts it's because Doc's a lousy coach. I happen to think we have one of the most beautiful, diversified, intelligent offenses in the league. Unfortunately, sometimes over the course of the last 4 seasons it's been off it's rhythm. That doesn't make Doc a terrible coach.
Quote from: Celtics18 on May 12, 2011, 02:06:03 PMQuote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 11:42:56 AMAs I said in my post, I do commend Doc on winning a title. But like I said, a number of coaches in this league would have won at least one title with this group. Again, as I said in my post, these 5+ minute periods without a single good look at the basket are inexcusable, and reflect on Doc. A great coach wouldn't let that happen so often. Tell me about a recent 5+ minute stretch of basketball where the Celtics didn't get a single good look. I hope your not referring to the end of game five against the Heat where we had two missed layups, a great look at a three by Ray Allen, and a good post up play by KG where he unfortunately didn't establish quite deep enough position. You're right, Game 5 of the Heat series isn't the best example, and that's why I referred to his entire tenure here in Boston, especially since KG and Killer Ray arrived. Off the top of my head...overtime of game 4, several times during the first two games of the Heat series, at least once in 3 of the games against the Knicks, Game 7 of the finals last year, Game 6 of the finals last year, and about 2,527 other times (in the regular season and the playoffs) that I can't specifically pinpoint off the top of my head. Especially over the past two years. Not sure this is even debatable.
Quote from: the TRUTH on May 12, 2011, 11:42:56 AMAs I said in my post, I do commend Doc on winning a title. But like I said, a number of coaches in this league would have won at least one title with this group. Again, as I said in my post, these 5+ minute periods without a single good look at the basket are inexcusable, and reflect on Doc. A great coach wouldn't let that happen so often. Tell me about a recent 5+ minute stretch of basketball where the Celtics didn't get a single good look. I hope your not referring to the end of game five against the Heat where we had two missed layups, a great look at a three by Ray Allen, and a good post up play by KG where he unfortunately didn't establish quite deep enough position.
As I said in my post, I do commend Doc on winning a title. But like I said, a number of coaches in this league would have won at least one title with this group. Again, as I said in my post, these 5+ minute periods without a single good look at the basket are inexcusable, and reflect on Doc. A great coach wouldn't let that happen so often.
