Doc cost us Game 7 and this current series

[OsirusCeltics]

I never wanted to admit it before. But Doc is the reason Celtics have lost the 2010 and 2011 championship (Yes I'm foreshadowing)

I have absolutely no idea why people would blame Danny for the Celtics losing. Danny put together a great team, 12 deep in my opinion. Versatile in every position, great offensive as well as defensive players. But its the coach who decides how to utilize the talent, and Doc has done a horrible job

I've tried for years to defend Doc. But I won't do it anymore

-Horrible with rotations
-Too loyal to players, even if they are playing bad
-Plays the starters too many minutes
-Doesn't trust his bench
-Doesn't make adjustments throughout the series

Game 7
-Why did he not play the bench in Game 7? He ran the starters to the ground. There was a reason Ray, Paul, and KG all underperformed
-The same bench that won you game 4, and you didn't even put them in? TA, Nate, Marquis, and even Sheldon Williams should have been all on the floor. The scoring drought was because the starters were worn out

Celtics-Heat Series
-Why does he continue to play Big Baby?!. It's that blind loyalty that bugs me. Davis was playing bad the whole series, and he put him in instead of JO or Shaq. Its not a coincidence that once he came in, the Heat had an 11-2 run and retook the lead

Fans wonder why Jeff Green has not shown us much. Its because Big Baby has taken minutes away from him

-I would never get how Doc would not exploit the Celtic's size in this series. Either JO and Shaq shouldn have been on the floor, and they should have pounded the ball inside and draw fouls against the Heat

-There are plenty of players on the bench that Doc just ignores
Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Kristic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo all could have made a difference in this series. It makes the lineups too predictable, which makes the Celtics easier to defend

Like one poster said, I think the Celtics big mistake this season was to ask Doc to coach this team again
 

[Tai]

I'm still wondering how BBD took away from Jeff Green. Or is that just another excuse to bash BBD again? 

And no one should want to see Shelden Williams play for us in the NBA Finals.

Apart from that, I do agree that Shaq should have played more last night. I hope he's ok.

[vinnie]

If any of these guys - Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Krstic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo - are playing anymore than mopup time in any playoff game, there is no chance the Celtics are going anywhere. This is a good part of the crap that Danny laid on Doc's doorstep.

[wdleehi]

There are some similar roster issues as well.



Game 7, Wallace and Baby

Yesterday, JO and Baby.



There is no 2nd C.  The Celtics had to play small.  The Celtics allowed to many offensive rebounds and were killed on the boards in a game that ended in regulation tied.  Cut the offensive rebounds in half, take away at least one 2nd chance basket.  Celtics win.  

[OsirusCeltics]

I'm still wondering how BBD took away from Jeff Green. Or is that just another excuse to bash BBD again? 

And no one should want to see Shelden Williams play for us in the NBA Finals.

Apart from that, I do agree that Shaq should have played more last night. I hope he's ok.

If Doc decides to play small ball, the KG-Green-Pierce-Ray-Rondo lineup is the most effective. Why put BBD in? And if BBD isn't taken minutes away from Jeff Green, he's taking it away from JO and Shaq

[OsirusCeltics]

If any of these guys - Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Krstic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo - are playing anymore than mopup time in any playoff game, there is no chance the Celtics are going anywhere. This is a good part of the crap that Danny laid on Doc's doorstep.

I think the fact that Doc isn't playing them makes you think they aren't good players

-Von Wafer played very very well in that 2009 Lakers-Rockets series while he was on the rockets. Averaged 12 ppg and took the Lakers to 7 games

-Sasha went to the Finals with Lebron and was actually the only other scoring option the Cavs had

-Aroyyo is a good point guard, but somehow he's on the bench

-Kristic played very well in that Thunder-Lakers series last year. Defened Pau and never let him get in a rhythm

This is the same dynamic in which people think Ray Allen is only a shooter because thats the job we was given when he came to the Celtics

[snowball]

I am in complete and total agreement
with the original poster ! This was
my exact thoughts. I'm not even going
to say anything more, because the first
post SAYS IT ALL !
(tp transferred)

[vinnie]

If any of these guys - Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Krstic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo - are playing anymore than mopup time in any playoff game, there is no chance the Celtics are going anywhere. This is a good part of the crap that Danny laid on Doc's doorstep.

I think the fact that Doc isn't playing them makes you think they aren't good players

-Von Wafer played very very well in that 2009 Lakers-Rockets series while he was on the rockets. Averaged 12 ppg and took the Lakers to 7 games

-Sasha went to the Finals with Lebron and was actually the only other scoring option the Cavs had

-Aroyyo is a good point guard, but somehow he's on the bench

-Kristic played very well in that Thunder-Lakers series last year. Defened Pau and never let him get in a rhythm

This is the same dynamic in which people think Ray Allen is only a shooter because thats the job we was given when he came to the Celtics

None of these guys are good enough to be part of the rotation. The majority are cast off from one or several other teams that the Celtics picked up for 50 Cents. As for Krstic, I have no idea how this guy was the starting center in OKC. It's no wonder that you don't hear anyone in OKC complaining about the Perk trade. They basically dumped their crap on us.

[theswitch]

A big question last night was why Rondo was still out there. Listen, he had one of the most inspirational performances last game and in the first quarter of this game. You can't credit him enough for playing through the pain without any painkillers or shots. But in the second half and especially the fourth quarter, we were playing 4 on 5 offensively - he was an absolute liability. Yes, he played great defense - against Mario Chalmers. The Heat went with Chalmers/Wade/Jones/James/Bosh, why wouldn't we counter we West/Allen/Green/Pierce/KG? Keeping Rondo in the game, even disregarding that layup (which I can't blame him for), was a crucial mistake.

[Marcus13]

1. The options were Big Baby or Nenad Kristic, there aren't any other bigs to come off the bench, Shaq could barely walk.

2. You want Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Kristic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo to start playing minutes in the second round of the playoffs.

This is placing blame just for the sake of placing blame

[angryguy77]

Agree 10000000%

Doc cost us this with horrible rotations. Too many subs in at once and his crush on Davis is indefensible. JO played excellent D this entire series yet he kept him on the bench.

I believe it is up to the coach to integrate the players into the lineup. He didn't do that. Up until this series, I was a strong supporter of his, but he lapsed on some basic elementary things.

Sure the guys could have executed better down the stretch, but he didn't put them in the best position to win. It looked like he panicked this series.

[Scalablob990]

Osirus, I thoght I was the only one who thought the same exact thing about Doc. It's nice to know that i'm not alone 

[angryguy77]

1. The options were Big Baby or Nenad Kristic, there aren't any other bigs to come off the bench, Shaq could barely walk.

2. You want Von Wafer, Sasha Pavlovic, Kristic, Troy Murphy, and Arroyo to start playing minutes in the second round of the playoffs.

This is placing blame just for the sake of placing blame

No.

As the OP stated, there were other options.

[OsirusCeltics]

Osirus, I thoght I was the only one who thought the same exact thing about Doc. It's nice to know that i'm not alone 

Glad you agree 
Just hope Doc finally decides to leave so they can find a better coach

[OsirusCeltics]

Agree 10000000%

Doc cost us this with horrible rotations. Too many subs in at once and his crush on Davis is indefensible. JO played excellent D this entire series yet he kept him on the bench.

I believe it is up to the coach to integrate the players into the lineup. He didn't do that. Up until this series, I was a strong supporter of his, but he lapsed on some basic elementary things.

Sure the guys could have executed better down the stretch, but he didn't put them in the best position to win. It looked like he panicked this series.

Yup totally
Its funny. The Heat coach who people once thought as incompetent, greatly outcoached Doc