Doc cost us Game 7 and this current series

[OsirusCeltics]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

[winsomme]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

Celtics 1-12 (starter to the 12th man) are head over heals better than Heat's 1-12

With an injured Rondo, they were up by double digits till Big Baby came in the game. Went away from exploiting the size advantage

Celtics should not be down 3-1

I definitely don't think we should play down to their size because they want to play James Jones at SF and LeBron at PF...

not sure why Doc is doing that.

that said, it pretty hard to argue at this point that Doc is the reason we are losing this series...

too many injuries and a questionable trade are my top two.

anyway, still think we could win game 5 and this series, but don't think lineups with DWest and Rondo playing together will get it done. too small.

[kozlodoev]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

Why should that matter, I thought it was the coach who decides the fortunes of the team.

[FatjohnReturns]

Good coaches get the most out of their players
Bad coaches minimize their teams talent.
As stated many times before in this and other threads he blindly sticks to the same rotations even when his players are drastically underperforming like Glen Davis

As much as I dislike Bill Simmons here is a 2006 article he wrote about firing Doc

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061115

does this sound familiar??
"Boston blows a 22-point lead at MSG and the Knicks rally by running the same high screen with Nate Robinson and Channing Frye 27 consecutive times without the Celtics making a single defensive adjustment, followed by Doc blaming the players after the game for "having to get better defensively"

Its the same story its always been with Doc nothing has changed.

[BballTim]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

  In other words, it's not the coach that decides the team's fortune as much as the quality of play he gets out of his troops.

[Change]

Why close the game out with a handicapped Rondo?
Why is Jeff Green not been integrated better into the system?
Why make the trade in the 1st place Danny Ainge?
Why is JO playing limited minutes?
Why is Big Baby remaining in the rotation?
Why can't the Celtics rebound the ball?
Why Wade preform a jujitsu leg sweep on Rondo?
Why NBA referees favor the Heat superstars over the Celtics?
Why Celtics surrendered HCA in regular season?
Why is Shaq always injured and old?
Why Doc can't master the rotations?
Why is KG passive in nature?


why why why why............. so many question so few answers. Its over now. Nothing we can do to change the outcome.

[BballTim]

Good coaches get the most out of their players
Bad coaches minimize their teams talent.
As stated many times before in this and other threads he blindly sticks to the same rotations even when his players are drastically underperforming like Glen Davis

As much as I dislike Bill Simmons here is a 2006 article he wrote about firing Doc

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061115

does this sound familiar??
"Boston blows a 22-point lead at MSG and the Knicks rally by running the same high screen with Nate Robinson and Channing Frye 27 consecutive times without the Celtics making a single defensive adjustment, followed by Doc blaming the players after the game for "having to get better defensively"

Its the same story its always been with Doc nothing has changed.

  You realize that he's joking about the outcome of a game that hadn't even been played yet when he wrote the article, right?

[OsirusCeltics]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

Why should that matter, I thought it was the coach who decides the fortunes of the team.

Because you can't use that argument of a lottery team to see the competence of a coach. That Minny team has a whole lot of work to do, beyond a good coach. And everyone knows that

[OsirusCeltics]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

You can even use an example of the star on the Minny team, Kevin Love. People judge him based on his team record and almost didn't make the all star team

What im saying is, you have even to have a good enough team to even be in the discussion of getting recognition of being an impact player

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

  In other words, it's not the coach that decides the team's fortune as much as the quality of play he gets out of his troops.

(Mistake on the post, disregard)

[OsirusCeltics]

I think what many people don't understand is that the coach is the one who decides the teams fortune, plain and simple

  So Minny should stop wasting their time looking for players and just get a better coach? Instant title contenders?

Does Minny have 4 all stars on their team?
Do they have a proven closer like Pierce?
Name 2 bench players on Minny that are as good as Delonte combined

  In other words, it's not the coach that decides the team's fortune as much as the quality of play he gets out of his troops.

You can even use an example of the star on the Minny team, Kevin Love. People judge him based on his team record and almost didn't make the all star team

What im saying is, you have even to have a good enough team to even be in the discussion of getting recognition of being an impact player

[Dante]

We have to draft a new Head Coach, definitely. Im glad Im not alone in this.

[FatjohnReturns]

Good coaches get the most out of their players
Bad coaches minimize their teams talent.
As stated many times before in this and other threads he blindly sticks to the same rotations even when his players are drastically underperforming like Glen Davis

As much as I dislike Bill Simmons here is a 2006 article he wrote about firing Doc

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061115

does this sound familiar??
"Boston blows a 22-point lead at MSG and the Knicks rally by running the same high screen with Nate Robinson and Channing Frye 27 consecutive times without the Celtics making a single defensive adjustment, followed by Doc blaming the players after the game for "having to get better defensively"

Its the same story its always been with Doc nothing has changed.

  You realize that he's joking about the outcome of a game that hadn't even been played yet when he wrote the article, right?

No I didnt realize that. I had never read the article before and the same complaints posters have about Doc in this series are the same complaints in the article written in 2006.

"close losses, defensive breakdowns, stagnant offense, convoluted excuses"

"Last Friday night, he waited three quarters to go small against Utah, even though New Jersey had beaten them two nights before by playing Kidd, Jefferson, Vince and Antoine Wright at the same time. (By the time Doc tried the same tactic, we were trailing by 15 and it was too late"

"Orlando regained the lead and clinched the game on one of those "team grabs an offensive rebound off a missed free throw, then gets the backbreaking layup off a bad defensive switch" sequences that have defined the Doc era."

Its the same old story. I believe Doc has done the best he could. Docs best is just not enough to win it all without a overwhelming team like we had in 08

[Celticsfan336]

COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!
BUT NOT ABOUT GAME 7, WE JUST GOT OUTPLAYED THE LAST 5 MINUTES

[looseball]

COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!
BUT NOT ABOUT GAME 7, WE JUST GOT OUTPLAYED THE LAST 5 MINUTES

And we should have been able to get blood from a stone. 

[OsirusCeltics]

COULDNT AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!
BUT NOT ABOUT GAME 7, WE JUST GOT OUTPLAYED THE LAST 5 MINUTES

Nah, I think we got out-reffed in the final minutes
But that's just me