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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2011, 01:17:33 PM »

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Glen Davis is a liability.

He can't rebound
Can't score in the paint
Bricks jumpers like crazy
Gets abused by taller players
Has an atrocious +/- in the playoffs


AND HE'S OUR 6TH MAN!!! No wonder we're down 0-2. Give me Lamar Odom or Rasheed Wallace any day.

I used to like Glen Davis, but now I want him out of Boston and I never EVER want to see him again in a Celtics jersey.
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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2011, 01:19:17 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? Well, this could be part of the reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s48ieZnNgs

A sweet buzzer-beater to beat ORL in the 08-09 playoffs.

The man is experienced. He has been up and down the last month or so, but I still trust Glen Davis.

Boston will put this thing together soon.

Yeah, but you know something about how well Baby played in that series against Orlando?  He was almost exclusively playing the 4 because of KG's injury.  You know what Baby is mostly playing now?  The 5.

If you play Baby at the 4, he's a below average rebounder, a great positional defender and a guy who can float out and hit the 17 jumper.

If you play Baby at the 5, he's an awful rebounder, provides no shot blocking and constantly tries to post up his man, usually resulting in a blocked shot or a miss.

Mike

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2011, 01:19:21 PM »

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Glen Davis is a liability.

He can't rebound
Can't score in the paint
Bricks jumpers like crazy
Gets abused by taller players
Has an atrocious +/- in the playoffs


AND HE'S OUR 6TH MAN!!! No wonder we're down 0-2. Give me Lamar Odom or Rasheed Wallace any day.

I used to like Glen Davis, but now I want him out of Boston and I never EVER want to see him again in a Celtics jersey.

I don't think you have to worry about that. I think the chance that we resign him this summer is slim to none, he will get a better offer elsewhere and has visions of starting and putting up big numbers. I will be glad to let some other team waste cap space on him.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2011, 01:21:11 PM »

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Glen Davis is a liability.

He can't rebound
Can't score in the paint
Bricks jumpers like crazy
Gets abused by taller players
Has an atrocious +/- in the playoffs


AND HE'S OUR 6TH MAN!!! No wonder we're down 0-2. Give me Lamar Odom or Rasheed Wallace any day.

I used to like Glen Davis, but now I want him out of Boston and I never EVER want to see him again in a Celtics jersey.

I don't think you have to worry about that. I think the chance that we resign him this summer is slim to none, he will get a better offer elsewhere and has visions of starting and putting up big numbers.

Good, never want to see him again.

Why we kept him for so long is absolutely BEYOND me.

We desperately need to start rebuilding the team.
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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2011, 01:30:36 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2011, 01:32:09 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

Davis has been the 6th man all season.

Regardless of Doc overusing him or not, Davis has not performed well on the floor. He's a huge liability every time he plays.
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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2011, 01:40:28 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2011, 01:44:24 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2011, 01:45:48 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

What would be the correct use of BBD? He underperforms in just about every role.
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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2011, 01:48:22 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

What would be the correct use of BBD? He underperforms in just about every role.
16-22 minutes a game ... he isn't able to play more than that on a regular basis

Never has been ... has always struggled to maintain his defense + rebounding contributions when his minutes have increased. Dating back to 2009 when he replaced KG as a starter.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2011, 01:54:32 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? Well, this could be part of the reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s48ieZnNgs

A sweet buzzer-beater to beat ORL in the 08-09 playoffs.

The man is experienced. He has been up and down the last month or so, but I still trust Glen Davis.

Boston will put this thing together soon.

Yeah, but you know something about how well Baby played in that series against Orlando?  He was almost exclusively playing the 4 because of KG's injury.  You know what Baby is mostly playing now?  The 5.

If you play Baby at the 4, he's a below average rebounder, a great positional defender and a guy who can float out and hit the 17 jumper.

If you play Baby at the 5, he's an awful rebounder, provides no shot blocking and constantly tries to post up his man, usually resulting in a blocked shot or a miss.

Mike

Good Point..really good point. So he is subbing for JO moreso now than ever vice KG.

I wonder why Doc hasn't used Nenad more as JO's backup vice Glen?

I would love to see this entire group together for a training camp.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2011, 02:26:42 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

Really?  You think Doc has specifically instructed that every time Baby happens to get an offensive rebound, he should always try and power the ball up over taller players no matter now many times he gets his shot blocked?  You think Doc has told Baby to get into the post and demand the ball, then do the extact same stupid "drive to the rim and get my shot blocked/brick the layup because I'm afraid of getting my shot blocked" move?  Has Doc spent every practice these last few years teaching Baby to be a black hole on offense who never even looks to pass the ball?

Wow, Doc's a worse coach than I thought.

Mike

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2011, 02:35:50 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

Really?  You think Doc has specifically instructed that every time Baby happens to get an offensive rebound, he should always try and power the ball up over taller players no matter now many times he gets his shot blocked?  You think Doc has told Baby to get into the post and demand the ball, then do the extact same stupid "drive to the rim and get my shot blocked/brick the layup because I'm afraid of getting my shot blocked" move?  Has Doc spent every practice these last few years teaching Baby to be a black hole on offense who never even looks to pass the ball?

Wow, Doc's a worse coach than I thought.

Mike

In general I have been a Davis supporter. But yeah, the dude tries to do more than his talents allow.

And Davis at the 5 when not next to KG is awful. It should never happen. He needs to be alongside a long rim protector.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2011, 02:37:59 PM »

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Glen Davis is the Celtics' 9th man.

The reason(s) he has been thrust into a larger role is (1) the injury to Shaquille O'Neal which removed JO from the bench (2) Doc Rivers overusing him.

Neither of which are Baby's fault.

Glen Davis would be an asset to this team if used in the right role.

It is Baby's fault when he keeps making the same stupid plays over and over again.

Mike
A coach's job is to put his players in positions where they can be successful.

Doc Rivers is asking far too much out of BBD and has been doing so all year long. Glen Davis is underperforming because of Doc Rivers' use of him.

Really?  You think Doc has specifically instructed that every time Baby happens to get an offensive rebound, he should always try and power the ball up over taller players no matter now many times he gets his shot blocked?  You think Doc has told Baby to get into the post and demand the ball, then do the extact same stupid "drive to the rim and get my shot blocked/brick the layup because I'm afraid of getting my shot blocked" move?  Has Doc spent every practice these last few years teaching Baby to be a black hole on offense who never even looks to pass the ball?

Wow, Doc's a worse coach than I thought.

Mike

  While I agree with most of your post, if Baby can demand the ball and then get it on a regular basis with the big four then we've got bigger issues than Doc will ever be able to solve.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2011, 02:40:02 PM »

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If you take a look at a photo of Glen Davis around Nov/Dec.and look at him now you will see an extra 10-20pd..He never was a great leaper,with this extra weight he hardly has any lift.If i can tell he's gained weight im sure Doc can.Why and what happened to Glen Davis during the season and has Doc addressed this issue with him?I blame the weight gain on Glen but Doc is primarily responsible for the type of product put on the floor each night.

Yeah. Baby put on noticable weight rehabbing his injury. Has looked a step slow since. When is the last time he drew a charge?