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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2011, 01:40:53 PM »

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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2011, 04:21:26 AM »

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Danny deserved this outcome. He couldn't have been more wrong about impact of someone like Shane Battier vs Glen Davis before accepting the Perk trade. I still can't believe he nixed a trade because Houston mentioned Baby. So Danny felt I can keep a young Baby and still get a young Jeff Green with a healthy center. Sounds good if you completely disregard what makes your team successful. I said it after the trade in this forum that Danny will pay for keeping Baby. It wasn't a mystery, have we not had circumstances where Baby must help this team either in the regular season or in the playoffs and came away without a ring or championship? Nooo Danny, hold on to Baby and better yet run him with the starting unit to end games instead of Shaq, barely win games and be happy with getting by?  It's as if Danny never played with Parish or Mchale, seen Russell, KG or Perk play.

Don't stick by Leon Powe. Don't pay TA an extra year, trade Eddie House because he ain't producing playing with Glen Davis...like Rasheed...like Nate Robinson...like Jeff Green, hmm seems like a trend, if I were a GM I'd look into that!

Remember the block Baby had vs Bynum that looked good, but was called for a foul? That is Glen Davis he will try and cost your team because just like he can't avoid hitting Bynum with the body, he can't help your team and you will give up points even for his efforts. Some of you fans love his hustle, he's hustled Danny, Doc, and C's fans.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2011, 04:44:11 AM »

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Danny deserved this outcome. He couldn't have been more wrong about impact of someone like Shane Battier vs Glen Davis before accepting the Perk trade. I still can't believe he nixed a trade because Houston mentioned Baby. So Danny felt I can keep a young Baby and still get a young Jeff Green with a healthy center. Sounds good if you completely disregard what makes your team successful. I said it after the trade in this forum that Danny will pay for keeping Baby. It wasn't a mystery, have we not had circumstances where Baby must help this team either in the regular season or in the playoffs and came away without a ring or championship? Nooo Danny, hold on to Baby and better yet run him with the starting unit to end games instead of Shaq, barely win games and be happy with getting by?  It's as if Danny never played with Parish or Mchale, seen Russell, KG or Perk play.

Don't stick by Leon Powe. Don't pay TA an extra year, trade Eddie House because he ain't producing playing with Glen Davis...like Rasheed...like Nate Robinson...like Jeff Green, hmm seems like a trend, if I were a GM I'd look into that!

Remember the block Baby had vs Bynum that looked good, but was called for a foul? That is Glen Davis he will try and cost your team because just like he can't avoid hitting Bynum with the body, he can't help your team and you will give up points even for his efforts. Some of you fans love his hustle, he's hustled Danny, Doc, and C's fans.


  First of all a lot of trade rumors aren't really true. Secondly, I don't think that Battier would be our answer at backup center either. Thirdly, Perk wasn't really healthy when we traded him.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2011, 11:26:15 AM »

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It's not the minutes.  The question is "Why do the Celtics keep giving the ball to Baby in the post and letting him go one-on-one?"

This team doesn't post up KG.  They don't post up JO.  They don't post up Krstic.  They occasionally post up Green, but that's the only thing they do with him.

I mean, as TERRIBLE as Baby is in the post, I could understand it if every other big was also getting touches down there.  But for Baby to get more post ups than KG, JO or Krstic combined (which often happens) is completely insane.

And it's not really Baby's fault.  No matter how much he asks for the ball in the post, they don't have to throw it to him. 

Mike

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2011, 12:23:46 PM »

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They occasionally post up Green, but that's the only thing they do with him.
One thing that was bothering me was the way they were posting up Green in the last game.

They ran a cross screen for Green to pop up on the left block. Cleared the floor out with only Green and the post entry passer on the ball side of the floor. The other three on the weakside. With Green being the first option in the play.

Which is all well and good but they used Rajon Rondo as the post entry passer. And Rondo's man was staying 5-6 feet off of him and Rondo was dribbling down below the three point line before making the pass. So Bibby or whoever it was ... was right beside Jeff Green, making the entry pass too difficult to throw and even if he did make the pass, the double team would have been there too quick for Jeff Green to make a move.

It was a complete waste of a valuable matchup advantage (Green over J.Jones I think it was).

Doc needs to make Ray Allen or Paul Pierce the post entry passer and put Rondo on the weak side of the floor. That will help get Jeff Green some good touches in the post.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2011, 12:25:33 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? ? Who knows. You may as well ask "Who is John Galt?"

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2011, 12:30:14 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? Well, this could be part of the reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s48ieZnNgs

A sweet buzzer-beater to beat ORL in the 08-09 playoffs.

The man is experienced. He has been up and down the last month or so, but I still trust Glen Davis.

Boston will put this thing together soon.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2011, 12:31:26 PM »

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Because Glen has been a clutch fourth-quarter performer for the majority of the year...
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Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2011, 12:34:12 PM »

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Because Glen has been a clutch fourth-quarter performer for the majority of the year...

Well, I think it has a little more to do with the system.  JO has been getting more late game minutes lately, but he still is not as good as Davis within the system.

Really, it is a trust thing with Doc.  He has built up trust with Davis that he will be in the right place on both ends of the court, and I don't think he is there yet with JO, and certainly not with Green. 

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2011, 12:35:21 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? Well, this could be part of the reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s48ieZnNgs

A sweet buzzer-beater to beat ORL in the 08-09 playoffs.

The man is experienced. He has been up and down the last month or so, but I still trust Glen Davis.

Boston will put this thing together soon.

Unfortunately we lost that series. The best part of that play though was when Davis ran over the fat kid with the magic jersey after hitting the shot.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2011, 12:47:40 PM »

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Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes? Well, this could be part of the reason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s48ieZnNgs

A sweet buzzer-beater to beat ORL in the 08-09 playoffs.

The man is experienced. He has been up and down the last month or so, but I still trust Glen Davis.

Boston will put this thing together soon.

Unfortunately we lost that series. The best part of that play though was when Davis ran over the fat kid with the magic jersey after hitting the shot.

You are right - we did lose that series in Seven games, I believe.

But what Glen Davis did with that buzzer beater, and what many of the current Celtics players have done and even the past Celtics players exemplifies, to me, what being a Celtic is.

Never give up...and take victory from the jaws of defeat. I'm glad Glen Davis is still on this team, and I hope Danny can somehow get him back here next year if the Core Four remains intact.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »

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If you take a look at a photo of Glen Davis around Nov/Dec.and look at him now you will see an extra 10-20pd..He never was a great leaper,with this extra weight he hardly has any lift.If i can tell he's gained weight im sure Doc can.Why and what happened to Glen Davis during the season and has Doc addressed this issue with him?I blame the weight gain on Glen but Doc is primarily responsible for the type of product put on the floor each night.

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2011, 01:08:35 PM »

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Because Glen has been a clutch fourth-quarter performer for the majority of the year...

Well, I think it has a little more to do with the system.  JO has been getting more late game minutes lately, but he still is not as good as Davis within the system.

Really, it is a trust thing with Doc.  He has built up trust with Davis that he will be in the right place on both ends of the court, and I don't think he is there yet with JO, and certainly not with Green. 

How is JO "not as good as Davis within the system" ????  I recall 1 game this post season where Doc put JO to close the game out and it was a great move. 

Outside of some jumpers that went in during game 3 against the Knicks, when Davis has come in he has been a disaster.  You can claim that Davis knows the system well, but he doesn't execute nearly as well as Jermaine. 

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2011, 01:11:23 PM »

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Because Glen has been a clutch fourth-quarter performer for the majority of the year...

I think you're a couple years behind with the comment. He hasn't been a clutch performer THIS year...

Re: Why does Glen Davis get so many late-game minutes?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2011, 01:16:16 PM »

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Because Glen has been a clutch fourth-quarter performer for the majority of the year...

I think you're a couple years behind with the comment. He hasn't been a clutch performer THIS year...

And he is getting worse and worse.  I really didn't think Davis could play any poorer than he did towards the end of the regular season... but I was wrong.  This postseason he's playing worse than I've ever seen him.