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Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« on: April 13, 2011, 07:18:51 PM »

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The season is over, and grades are due. This is my report card:

Paul Pierce-A. The best, and most consistent, player on the Celtics all year. Shot a career high from the field at 50%. Still got it done from the three at 37%. He scored a little over 1500 points. The guy is an iron man and comes to play ever night.

Ray Allen-A-. His recent struggles will make some people forget about how brilliant of a season he has had. I will not. He killed it from three all year long, shooting just about 45%. He nearly shot 50% from the field, while shooting 88% from the line. Ray is another iron man like Pierce, and came to play every night.

Kevin Garnett-A-. KG came back this year rejuvenated. He was a better player than last year. I would go into the stats, but it would really be pointless. He was the anchor of the defense, brought the toughness and intensity every night, and played in 71 games.

Jeff Green-B+. Some may think I've given Jeff Green too high of a grade. But I think he was played fairly well in his short stint with the C's so far. He's shooting nearly 50% from the field and nearly 80% from the line. His rebounding is cause for concern, but we all knew that was a weakness in his game when he was acquired. He hasn't quite "figured it out yet," but he will pay dividends in the playoffs.

Shaquille O'neal-B. Shaq, if healthy enough to play in more games, easily would have gotten an A. But, being able to contribute in only 37 games brings his grade down. But when he's out there, we all see his value: He is the presence in the paint, offensively and defensively. Our title hopes rest on his health.

Delonte West-B. Delonte, like Shaq, is a guy who could have been great for this team if he wasn't so often injured. But in the 24 games he has played in, he's been great. He really is a great role player, and has shown that when healthy.

Glen Davis-B. Glen Davis took some nice leaps in his game this year. But he was much better the first half of the season than the second. He came to play in 77 games, usually brought the hustle, and is a leader in charges taken. Sometimes he is not comfortable with what his role is on the team, though.

Nenad Krstic-B-. He had a great 4 or 5 games. Then he came back down to reality. He doesn't bring much to this basketball team, but he can be a nice offensive punch sometimes.

Von Wafer-B-. I thought Von showed a willingness all year to play hard, make an effort on defense, and do what the coaches were asking him to. He is one of the few Celtics who have the ability to slash into the lane.

Rajon Rondo-C. Rondo started out great. But he has been nothing but a nightmare since. 56% from the line, 47% from the field, 23% from three, and only 2 free throw attempts a game. He has time and time again shown an unwillingness to enter the paint. He has his customary "throw the ball into the stands" turnover two times a night. But most of all what bothers me is Rondo's lack of heart, desire, passion, etc.

Avery Bradley-C. While Bradley was out there, which was limited, he showed a willingness and a head to play man defense. But he looks completely in over his head in every other aspect of the game. I expected more out of the kid.

Jermaine O'neal-I. I can't give JO a grade just yet. He hasn't had a chance to play healthy until these past couple of games. If he can do what he has been doing in the playoffs, he'll be great.

Troy Murphy-I.

Sasha Pvlovich-I.

Carlos Arroyo-I.

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 07:22:30 PM »

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Big 3:  A

JO+Delonte:  C-

Shaq: Tardy

Baby: D

Danny: F
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2011, 07:33:14 PM »

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Big 3:  A

JO+Delonte:  C-

Shaq: Tardy

Baby: D

Danny: F

How are you coming up with Danny's grade ?  Was he suppose to grab his crystal ball and predict that 3-5 players who would get major playoff minutes on any team would all get injured during the year ?

You have a stacked roster, allow a leagues best 91 points per game, had tons of injuries throughout a 55 win season, and your GM gets an F ?

You grade like my 10th grade English teacher.

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 07:40:56 PM »

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Big 3:  A

JO+Delonte:  C-

Shaq: Tardy

Baby: D

Danny: F

How are you coming up with Danny's grade ?  Was he suppose to grab his crystal ball and predict that 3-5 players who would get major playoff minutes on any team would all get injured during the year ?

You have a stacked roster, allow a leagues best 91 points per game, had tons of injuries throughout a 55 win season, and your GM gets an F ?

You grade like my 10th grade English teacher.
It had something to do with going into the season having Marquis Daniels as our main backup wing and then half-way through the season destroying our long-built chemistry by breaking up what has been known for the past 3 years as the best starting 5 in basketball and probably the longest tenured as well.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 07:42:35 PM »

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Big 3:  A

JO+Delonte:  C-

Shaq: Tardy

Baby: D

Danny: F

How are you coming up with Danny's grade ?  Was he suppose to grab his crystal ball and predict that 3-5 players who would get major playoff minutes on any team would all get injured during the year ?

You have a stacked roster, allow a leagues best 91 points per game, had tons of injuries throughout a 55 win season, and your GM gets an F ?

You grade like my 10th grade English teacher.
It had something to do with going into the season having Marquis Daniels as our main backup wing and then half-way through the season destroying our long-built chemistry by breaking up what has been known for the past 3 years as the best starting 5 in basketball and probably the longest tenured as well.

So you overlook everything else he brought you ?

Is the grading scale based on one or two moves ?  Or the entire year ?

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2011, 07:43:13 PM »

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Incomplete to almost everyone.

Avery Bradley and Troy Murphy are working on Fs.

Jeff Green is working on a D.

Kevin Garnett is looking at an A


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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 08:04:57 PM »

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Celtics on the whole:  C+

The roster shake-ups have really impacted our defense.  There just hasn't been enough time to get all these guys on a string defensively, like we saw with the 08 and 09 teams.

Ainge:  A-

The guy was dealt a tough hand this past summer, but did well to stock up on bigs and find a 'bridge to the future' in Jeff Green.  Even if we keep Perk, this team was a long-shot to win a title this year.  I don't see the massive odds drop-off that most around here do.

Doc:  C

Where's the D at Doc?  Losing Thibbs to me, has been worse than losing Perk

Big 3:  A+

They haven't lost a step

Rondo:  C

Clearly he is not playing with the same sense of urgancy as he was during November.  Hopefully that changes in the playoffs.
Also, remember when there was a debate over which pg was better, Rose or Rondo?  Yeah, that's been put to bed.  Rondo sooner or later has to get serious about his shooting.

O'neils:  B

Didn't expect much, and when they've played, they've looked well.  Can't be surprised by how much they've been sidelined.

Delonte:  D

Can't keep himself on the court when we really need to be able to rely on him

Big Baby:  A+

The guy has it going, and his 4th quarter play must have been a reason why Ainge considered pulling the trigger on the Perk trade.

Jeff Green:  B
He adds a dimesion on offense that we desperatly needed.  But man is he lacking on defense.  With his physical tools, he really should be much better.  Kind of gotta give him a mulligan on that one as he hasn't been in town very long...

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 08:06:11 PM »

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Personally i can't give players thats been with this team less than 70games,players that rode the pine 90%of the season and players that spent a good portion of the season on DL.I don't feel its fair to them in assessing what they contributed in spuirts...included in my list of players i can't give a grade until they've had more court time: 1.J.Green,2.N.Kristic,3.Shaq,4.JO,5.Sasha.P.,6.V.Wafer,7.D.West,8.A.Bradley,9.T.Murphy

Report Card:
1.Pierce A-,been the most consistent player this season for the Celtics and continue to play at a high level.
2.Garnett A-,has helped Pierce lead the team most of the season without having a lot of time missed.KG is still our defensive leader.
3.Ray B,Ray continued to stretch the floor most of the season by taking advantage of his opportunites with his outside 3 pt shooting.He's had a recent slump in his play but im not sure its all his fault.
4.Rondo B,Raja had a great first half of the season but tapered off after the all star break.His recent play has been suspect with a lot of spotty performances
BBD B-,Baby has had an up/down season and thats probably why he will always be a role player.He also had a great first half of the season,playing some decent defense by leading the league at one point in taking charges in the paint.I probably would've given Baby a B+ when he impressed me in the last Spurs game by stepping up his game when KG got into early foul trouble whereas the team didn't skip a beat with his presence.Since that game he's taken on a new role of being the leader on the team in shots taken per game,unsolicited.
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Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 08:10:57 PM »

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Baby -- C  Contract year.

Bradley -- D If anyone shoulda' gone to a school with a real coach, and stayed there 2-3 years, it's him.

Rondo -- C  Can anyone say "hubris"

Doc -- A+ 

Truth -- A 

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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 08:17:50 PM »

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Doc A
Danny A  - anyone who thinks he deserves less is not looking at the season, he made the best bench in the nba and made good trades
rondo-B inconsistent, but still you could argue our mvp, 1st part of season is A+, 2nd part C+
ray - B
pierce-A, good all around year by our captain, great job rebounding when the team needed it done
KG- A-  , seemed to loose steam, motivation or just bored later in season
Shaq-B, surprised me
Perk - C+ when he played he did a nice job
marquis-B when he was here prior to injury great job at backup wing and even some pg, here's to future health for him
Davis - B, he helped us big time early in year, 2nd half he has hurt us but still played well enough for a B, not 6th man of year for nba though
Delonte-B when he has played
Wafer-C, honestly once he got into team game has been a perfect 3rd string sg
Green-B-  , still looking like a steal to me
Krstic-C, a good job, shows to not understand defensive rotations and spacing but much better offensive player than I thought (rebounder as well)
Jermaine-B when he has played
Arroyo - B in limited time, he's a limited pg but perfect for 3rd string
Murphy - D, maybe its a injury but he looks like he's bound for europe
Bradley - F has shown defensive foot speed, otherwise not an nba player in any way
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Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 08:44:56 PM »

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This is probably a weasel way to do it, but I'm giving a pre-deadline grade and a post-deadline grade:

Paul Pierce- A / A-.  Paul has probably been the most consistent player all year.  He's fallen off a bit from the beginning of the year, but he's been excellent all year long.

Ray Allen- A / B.  Ray was having a career year until very recently, and he's been amazingly efficient.  He has struggled fairly recently, though, as he's had a diminished role in the offense.

Kevin Garnett- A+ / A-.  KG gets graded on a curve; he gets the A+ for being so much better than last year, and for coming out strong with his defense and rebounding.  Like everybody else, he's struggled lately compared to the beginning of the year, but he's still had an outstanding year.

Jeff Green - N/A / B-.  Green has scored at about the same rate as he did in OKC.  He's a pretty good player, even if he's a "quiet" / "passive" one.  However, he may be a bit overrated by some; at his essence, he's a middle-of-the-road scorer and defender (or perhaps a bit worse), and a poor rebounder and play-maker. 

Shaquille O'neal - A- / inc.  Shaq was absolutely awesome early on, and got progressively less productive, until getting hurt.  However, he fit in extremely well with the starters.  We need him back.

Delonte West - C / B-.  I don't know if it's even fair to give Delonte a grade.  He deserves a B+ / A- for the time he's been on the court.  Unfortunately, he's been extremely injury prone and can't be counted on.

Glen Davis - B+ / B-.  Baby is better when he has a clear role and doesn't try to do too much.  Lately he's gone into "hero mode" way too much, but overall he's had a very good year.

Nenad Krstic - N/A / B.  Krstic is as advertised:  he's a pretty good offensive player, a poor defensive rebounder, and a poor defender.  The one pleasant surprise has been his offensive rebounding.

Von Wafer - C / C.  He hasn't been all that productive, but he's filled his role, and has shown flashes.

Rajon Rondo - A / C.  Rondo played like an all-star...  until late February.  He's had nights recently where he's looked downright bad, and there's really no explaining it.

Avery Bradley - D / D.  The kid has looked completely lost.  His D is NBA-caliber, but he looks terrible on offense and in terms of court awareness.

Jermaine O'neal - inc. / B.  He missed most of the year, and should have gotten surgery sooner.  However, he's been looking good lately.

Troy Murphy - N/A / F.  Is an "F" harsh?  Maybe, but relative to expectations, Murphy has been horrid.

Sasha Pavlovich - N/A / D.  Pavlovich has made absolutely no impact.  I'd rather have Harangody.

Carlos Arroyo - N/A / C.  Arroyo has looked solid at times, and poor at others.  Hopefully he doesn't see any playoff minutes.

Marquis Daniels - B+ / N/A.  Marquis looked great on both ends; he just fit in very well.  His unfortunate injury was the turning point in our regular season.

Kendrick Perkins - A- / N/A.  Perk gets credit for busting his butt, and looking great when he came back.  He made a limited contribution this year, but he was a beast on the boards in the games that he did play.

Nate Robinson - C / N/A.  The guy was a big part of locker room chemistry early, and the team's performance didn't suffer much when he relieved Rondo in the starting lineup.  However, he wasn't a reliable backup PG.

Semih Erden - B+ / N/A.  This kid crushed expectations.  I thought he was going to be cut in the pre-season, and he turned into a very solid player.

Luke Harangody - C+ / N/A.  He didn't play a lot, but he showed that he can stick around in this league.  He had some really nice moments.

Chris Johnson - N/A / C.  Hey, for a handful of games, he looked like he might eventually catch on with somebody. 

Danny Ainge - B+ / D.  Danny's pre-season moves were largely brilliant.  Adding Shaq, JO, Delonte, and Wafer were very good moves.  Danny gets scored down because he couldn't resign Tony (who would have been helpful this year), for the Avery Bradley pick, and for not signing an adequate backup to Marquis Daniels.  Post-trade, I obviously score Danny way downward for the trade.  I didn't like the trade at the time, and I don't like it now.

Doc Rivers - A / C-.  Doc had this team playing like a cohesive unit early; it was the return of "ubuntu" in a big way.  Lately, he hasn't been able to motivate the team, and has admitted that the team lacks an identity.  It's up to him to have his guys ready.


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Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2011, 09:44:02 PM »

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Pierce: A
the most consistent, do everything multi-tool on the team this season, who obviously put a lot of time in during the offseason to get stronger & leaner. Also the most durable, and the team MVP.

Garnett: A-
A peg below Pierce, but still our defensive leader. Nursed a scary injury that kept him sidelined for a bit and faded in and out a couple times this season, but as healthy as he's ever going to be again. Still spirited on the floor, but lost a little of his edge--he's not feared like he used to be.

Allen: B+
Hard to argue with his shooting percentages across the board this year, and the fact that he has usurped Reggie Miller as the 3pt king. Problem is, he has all but disappeared in the last few weeks when the team needed it's leaders to step up.

Shaq: B
Played great in stretches and gave the team an immovable inside presence on offense that hasn't been seen in a long time. Bought into the system better than expected and accepted his role well. Problem is, he couldn't play enough games.

Rondo: B
Started off red hot and all world, but cooled a bit with various injuries. Lost leadership and interest after the Perkins trade and has been wildly inconsistent since. Has to redeem himself in the playoffs.

Baby: B
Excelled at moving his feet on D and worked hard at learning to get his shot off under the basket. Solid numbers and individual performances off the bench in a contract year. Looked for his shot too much over the last third of the season, which helped to bring the offense to a screeching halt.

Delonte: B+
Could have been the best player off the bench this year if he could have stayed healthy. Will be a huge factor for us in the playoffs.

Green: B
Shows flashes of the talent that brought him here, but mostly has underachieved so far. Seems to play better in extended minutes, still has the playoffs to prove his worth.

JO: C+
It took 80 games for him to record his first double-double and give us a glimpse of what a healthy JO can do--could be the x factor us at the 5 in the playoffs.

Krstic: B-
Either really solid, or downright awful. If he could learn the defense and be more consistent, he could actually help us off the bench in the playoffs.

Doc: B+
Does a great job managing personalities & egos, but lacked in the motivation department since the Perkins trade. Knowing how difficult the transition would be after the trade should have had him prepared to reach out to his players and be ready to inspire the team--I can't say that he did that effectively in the last quarter of the season.

Team: A-
Yes, we were a .500 team over the last 20 games or so, but this team managed to win 55 games with a patchwork frontcourt for most of the year, losing our starting PG, our backup PG twice--they could have imploded long before the end of the season but managed to be at the top for the first 3/4 of the year.

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2011, 10:02:46 PM »

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This is probably a weasel way to do it, but I'm giving a pre-deadline grade and a post-deadline grade:

Paul Pierce- A / A-.  Paul has probably been the most consistent player all year.  He's fallen off a bit from the beginning of the year, but he's been excellent all year long.

Ray Allen- A / B.  Ray was having a career year until very recently, and he's been amazingly efficient.  He has struggled fairly recently, though, as he's had a diminished role in the offense.

Kevin Garnett- A+ / A-.  KG gets graded on a curve; he gets the A+ for being so much better than last year, and for coming out strong with his defense and rebounding.  Like everybody else, he's struggled lately compared to the beginning of the year, but he's still had an outstanding year.

Jeff Green - N/A / B-.  Green has scored at about the same rate as he did in OKC.  He's a pretty good player, even if he's a "quiet" / "passive" one.  However, he may be a bit overrated by some; at his essence, he's a middle-of-the-road scorer and defender (or perhaps a bit worse), and a poor rebounder and play-maker. 

Shaquille O'neal - A- / inc.  Shaq was absolutely awesome early on, and got progressively less productive, until getting hurt.  However, he fit in extremely well with the starters.  We need him back.

Delonte West - C / B-.  I don't know if it's even fair to give Delonte a grade.  He deserves a B+ / A- for the time he's been on the court.  Unfortunately, he's been extremely injury prone and can't be counted on.

Glen Davis - B+ / B-.  Baby is better when he has a clear role and doesn't try to do too much.  Lately he's gone into "hero mode" way too much, but overall he's had a very good year.

Nenad Krstic - N/A / B.  Krstic is as advertised:  he's a pretty good offensive player, a poor defensive rebounder, and a poor defender.  The one pleasant surprise has been his offensive rebounding.

Von Wafer - C / C.  He hasn't been all that productive, but he's filled his role, and has shown flashes.

Rajon Rondo - A / C.  Rondo played like an all-star...  until late February.  He's had nights recently where he's looked downright bad, and there's really no explaining it.

Avery Bradley - D / D.  The kid has looked completely lost.  His D is NBA-caliber, but he looks terrible on offense and in terms of court awareness.

Jermaine O'neal - inc. / B.  He missed most of the year, and should have gotten surgery sooner.  However, he's been looking good lately.

Troy Murphy - N/A / F.  Is an "F" harsh?  Maybe, but relative to expectations, Murphy has been horrid.

Sasha Pavlovich - N/A / D.  Pavlovich has made absolutely no impact.  I'd rather have Harangody.

Carlos Arroyo - N/A / C.  Arroyo has looked solid at times, and poor at others.  Hopefully he doesn't see any playoff minutes.

Marquis Daniels - B+ / N/A.  Marquis looked great on both ends; he just fit in very well.  His unfortunate injury was the turning point in our regular season.

Kendrick Perkins - A- / N/A.  Perk gets credit for busting his butt, and looking great when he came back.  He made a limited contribution this year, but he was a beast on the boards in the games that he did play.

Nate Robinson - C / N/A.  The guy was a big part of locker room chemistry early, and the team's performance didn't suffer much when he relieved Rondo in the starting lineup.  However, he wasn't a reliable backup PG.

Semih Erden - B+ / N/A.  This kid crushed expectations.  I thought he was going to be cut in the pre-season, and he turned into a very solid player.

Luke Harangody - C+ / N/A.  He didn't play a lot, but he showed that he can stick around in this league.  He had some really nice moments.

Chris Johnson - N/A / C.  Hey, for a handful of games, he looked like he might eventually catch on with somebody. 

Danny Ainge - B+ / D.  Danny's pre-season moves were largely brilliant.  Adding Shaq, JO, Delonte, and Wafer were very good moves.  Danny gets scored down because he couldn't resign Tony (who would have been helpful this year), for the Avery Bradley pick, and for not signing an adequate backup to Marquis Daniels.  Post-trade, I obviously score Danny way downward for the trade.  I didn't like the trade at the time, and I don't like it now.

Doc Rivers - A / C-.  Doc had this team playing like a cohesive unit early; it was the return of "ubuntu" in a big way.  Lately, he hasn't been able to motivate the team, and has admitted that the team lacks an identity.  It's up to him to have his guys ready.
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Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2011, 10:24:14 PM »

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Doc -- A-
Danny -- C
Pierce -- A
Garnett -- A
Ray -- A-
Rondo -- B-
Shaq -- Incomplete
Baby -- B-
Krstic -- B
Wafer -- B
Bradley -- D
Murphy -- D
JO -- Incomplete
Green -- C+
Sasha -- Doesn't Matter
Arroyo -- Doesn't Matter
Delonte -- Incomplete

Re: Get Your Celtics Report Card In
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 10:31:29 PM »

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Doc: B-
Danny: B
Pierce: A
Garnett A
Ray: B (needed to take more leadership/initiative, demand shots, etc)
Rondo:  B-
Shaq: A (for less than $2mil/yr he proved he's the best starting center on the team and he's healthy for the playoffs)
Baby:  D+ (regressed, ball hogged, not in good shape.  Only thing preventing an F was that he stayed healthy)
Krstic:  C  
Wafer:  C+  (didn't expect anything, but he provides good energy)
Bradley:  F  (I think he's a bust)
Murphy:  D
JO:  B- (for his role he will do well, and he's healthy at the right time.. but we could have used him most of this season).
Green:  C+  (he has such potential but Doc isn't utilizing him, and Green isn't aggressive enough).
Sasha:  C
Arroyo:  D-  (he's not a servicable backup for the playoffs.  I hope he gets zero minutes.
Delonte:  B (he'd get an 'A' as a backup if he could stay healthy).