Corey Brewer bought out (updates) Celtics interested

[Greenbean]

I really hope we get Brewer.

If we can get Rondo/Green/Brewer out on the floor together we would be MONSTERS in transition offense, those three young guys would destroy slow teams like the Lakers.

I can just see it now, Celtics would have some real athletic guys.

Yes, they would be a great running trio, and Rondo would thrive if he had guys that could run the floor. But imagine having a back court where your two guards cannot shoot.

We should all be used to it from the Tony Allen days, right?  Tony was a better scorer, but an inferior shooter to Brewer.

Also, I think Tony Allen is probably the better scorer but Brewer more consistent.

I cant imagine Brewer having the same Jekyl and hyde game that TA had. I think with brewer you know what you are getting, great defense, athleticism, and limited offense. You basically get what you got from TA on his best nights every night.

  I think that, in general, most of the claims that I see about how inconsistent our players are compared to other players are based on actually watching our players play on a regular basis.

Very true and TP.

TA was just one of the most inconsistent players I ahve ever seen (and I loved him by the way). I cant imagine Brewer could be any worse in that regard!

[Greenbean]

  While I wouldn't mind getting Brewer, I don't think there's much of a chance that he has a steady role on the Celts unless we get an injury.

Yeah, its going to be a really tough sell.  He will have a much better chance at playing, and more money in Dallas.

I am really surprised he is taking so long to make this decision.

Perhaps Ainge is leading Brewer to believe that he would be in the long term plans for the Celtics while the Mavs are throwing the short term money at him...

Purely speculation of course.

[the_Bird]

  While I wouldn't mind getting Brewer, I don't think there's much of a chance that he has a steady role on the Celts unless we get an injury.

Yeah, its going to be a really tough sell.  He will have a much better chance at playing, and more money in Dallas.

I am really surprised he is taking so long to make this decision.

Perhaps Ainge is leading Brewer to believe that he would be in the long term plans for the Celtics while the Mavs are throwing the short term money at him...

Purely speculation of course.

Yeah, but why wouldn't he be just as much a part of Dallas' future as ours?  While I think they can play together, there is some redundancy between Brewer and Green, and there won't be a starting sport for either of them next season (unless something very dramatic happens). 

[wahz]

Ive been reading almost ALL posts lately but haven't seen anyone break down the minutes if we get Brewer also. Without doing this breakout in writing, I thought Murphy and Brewer really wouldn't play much if at all unless Jo, shaq and all have injury issues. Well it works better than I thought.

Shaq 18, Krstic 12, Jo 10, Murphy 8

That seems about right for Shaq; I like Krstic and am familiar with him and unlike many here think he is pretty good. Those can be quality minutes. If JO is back he plays some for his very solid d which is better than the other 3 guys, and if we are against dUWiGhT he plays more. Murphy gets some minutes to spread the floor and to see how it works. We have different looks and if someone is hot or matchups dictate it someone gets more or less.

KG 32, baby 16...I see Baby losing some minutes because he shouldn't play center but won't be surpirsed if he is really on to get into the 20's and take away from Murphy or JO


PP 35, Green 13...Green can get more but I think he'd take away from Baby or Murphy on some nights or PP sits more


Ray 35, Brewer 13....this is whare I wasn't really getting it. Brewer comes in for Ray and plays absurd d for as long. Its a simple backup situation as is


Rondo 35, D West 13



Man I hope we get Brewer

[Mencius]

I'd think he'd want to come to a contender right now.  He'd not be leaving all that much money on the table, plus he'd get a playoff share too.  Cleveland will still have plenty of money this summer.  In fact, they won't be getting any A-listers to go there, so Brewer could easily take their money this summer.

He will have opportunities in the future to play for a title if he wants to give up money. Right now he needs minutes to develop for the sake of future contracts.

In my view, it's far from a given that he'll have future opportunities to play for a title.  Some really great players never get a legit shot at it.  He'd lose little and perhaps gain a lot by signing with a real contender.  You think a couple months on the Cavs is really going to be great for his development?  I think deep playoff experience would be much better for him.

Yes, playing in games is better than watching the playoffs from the bench in a suit. Cavs would be fine for his development. He will be playing real games against NBA players.

It is easy for decent players to get legit shots at titles if they take a below market contract to move to a contender.

Brewer would not be coming here for Posey type minutes. He would likely get somewhere between Pruitt minutes and the kind of minutes Quis got last year.

There's no chance he'd be sitting on the sidelines in a suit if he signed here.  And yes, there are a lot of really good players who never made it to the finals.  He had plenty of time on a pathetic Minnesota team to get the kind of experience losing that he'd get on the Cavs.  He'd be getting far more minutes than Pruitt or Quis got in last years playoffs.  He'd be getting both backup 2 minutes and some backup 3 minutes as well.  I don't think Jeff Green moves his feet fast enough to stay in front of the quicker 3s in the league, but Brewer can and would.  

It's probably moot anyway, since Dallas is both a contender and can pay him 3M more than we can.

[Greenbean]

  While I wouldn't mind getting Brewer, I don't think there's much of a chance that he has a steady role on the Celts unless we get an injury.

Yeah, its going to be a really tough sell.  He will have a much better chance at playing, and more money in Dallas.

I am really surprised he is taking so long to make this decision.

Perhaps Ainge is leading Brewer to believe that he would be in the long term plans for the Celtics while the Mavs are throwing the short term money at him...

Purely speculation of course.

Yeah, but why wouldn't he be just as much a part of Dallas' future as ours?  While I think they can play together, there is some redundancy between Brewer and Green, and there won't be a starting sport for either of them next season (unless something very dramatic happens). 

I was speaking more to the possibility of ainge talking longer term contract after the season as opposed to Dallas offering the one year pro-rated MLE. Just a guess because I dont know why Brewer would even consider Boston if Dallas can offer that much more money.

[Greenbean]

Ive been reading almost ALL posts lately but haven't seen anyone break down the minutes if we get Brewer also. Without doing this breakout in writing, I thought Murphy and Brewer really wouldn't play much if at all unless Jo, shaq and all have injury issues. Well it works better than I thought.

Shaq 18, Krstic 12, Jo 10, Murphy 8

That seems about right for Shaq; I like Krstic and am familiar with him and unlike many here think he is pretty good. Those can be quality minutes. If JO is back he plays some for his very solid d which is better than the other 3 guys, and if we are against dUWiGhT he plays more. Murphy gets some minutes to spread the floor and to see how it works. We have different looks and if someone is hot or matchups dictate it someone gets more or less.

KG 32, baby 16...I see Baby losing some minutes because he shouldn't play center but won't be surpirsed if he is really on to get into the 20's and take away from Murphy or JO


PP 35, Green 13...Green can get more but I think he'd take away from Baby or Murphy on some nights or PP sits more


Ray 35, Brewer 13....this is whare I wasn't really getting it. Brewer comes in for Ray and plays absurd d for as long. Its a simple backup situation as is


Rondo 35, D West 13



Man I hope we get Brewer

A 12 man rotation? While it is impressive that we could have 12 rotation quality players, there is no way Doc goes with a 12 man rotation in the playoffs.

[wahz]

Ive been reading almost ALL posts lately but haven't seen anyone break down the minutes if we get Brewer also. Without doing this breakout in writing, I thought Murphy and Brewer really wouldn't play much if at all unless Jo, shaq and all have injury issues. Well it works better than I thought.

Shaq 18, Krstic 12, Jo 10, Murphy 8

That seems about right for Shaq; I like Krstic and am familiar with him and unlike many here think he is pretty good. Those can be quality minutes. If JO is back he plays some for his very solid d which is better than the other 3 guys, and if we are against dUWiGhT he plays more. Murphy gets some minutes to spread the floor and to see how it works. We have different looks and if someone is hot or matchups dictate it someone gets more or less.

KG 32, baby 16...I see Baby losing some minutes because he shouldn't play center but won't be surpirsed if he is really on to get into the 20's and take away from Murphy or JO


PP 35, Green 13...Green can get more but I think he'd take away from Baby or Murphy on some nights or PP sits more


Ray 35, Brewer 13....this is whare I wasn't really getting it. Brewer comes in for Ray and plays absurd d for as long. Its a simple backup situation as is


Rondo 35, D West 13



Man I hope we get Brewer

A 12 man rotation? While it is impressive that we could have 12 rotation quality players, there is no way Doc goes with a 12 man rotation in the playoffs.

Fwiw I meant those as averages

[BballTim]

  While I wouldn't mind getting Brewer, I don't think there's much of a chance that he has a steady role on the Celts unless we get an injury.

While I don't think there's a HUGE role for him, there should be a solid 12-15 (maybe a few more) minutes a game for him here.  Bringing Brewer aboard might impact Delonte a bit, he'd probably play more-exclusively as the backup 1 and not as much backing up Ray.  

Brewer can back up Pierce a bit, too, while Green is playing the 4.  Might impact Baby's role a bit, too.

There's enough "hybrid" guys on the bench (Delonte being a 1/2, Green a 3/4, Baby being a 4/5) where I think they can find room to fit in Brewer.  

  During the season maybe but not during the playoffs. Same with the bigs. Danny says Shaq and JO will be healthy, and we have Krstic and Murphy and Shaq and Baby and possibly Green. At least 2 of those (aside from Green) will be almost completely out of the rotation and another will be playing 10 or so minutes a game.

[celts55]

Ive been reading almost ALL posts lately but haven't seen anyone break down the minutes if we get Brewer also. Without doing this breakout in writing, I thought Murphy and Brewer really wouldn't play much if at all unless Jo, shaq and all have injury issues. Well it works better than I thought.

Shaq 18, Krstic 12, Jo 10, Murphy 8

That seems about right for Shaq; I like Krstic and am familiar with him and unlike many here think he is pretty good. Those can be quality minutes. If JO is back he plays some for his very solid d which is better than the other 3 guys, and if we are against dUWiGhT he plays more. Murphy gets some minutes to spread the floor and to see how it works. We have different looks and if someone is hot or matchups dictate it someone gets more or less.

KG 32, baby 16...I see Baby losing some minutes because he shouldn't play center but won't be surpirsed if he is really on to get into the 20's and take away from Murphy or JO


PP 35, Green 13...Green can get more but I think he'd take away from Baby or Murphy on some nights or PP sits more


Ray 35, Brewer 13....this is whare I wasn't really getting it. Brewer comes in for Ray and plays absurd d for as long. Its a simple backup situation as is


Rondo 35, D West 13



Man I hope we get Brewer

I would think with that bench and the ages of the starters that Doc would be thrilled to keep Pierce, Allen and KG all around 30 minutes per game leaving 18-20 minutes for the bench players. At least until the playoffs. Than maybe the starters play more, but why would you want to play them more that 30 during the season.

[cman88]

im guessing in the playoffs that Delonte will back both Rondo and ray so our rotations will look something like

Rondo/delonte
Ray/delonte
Pierce/Green
KG/Baby
Shaq/JO/Kristic

[BballTim]

im guessing in the playoffs that Delonte will back both Rondo and ray so our rotations will look something like

Rondo/delonte
Ray/delonte
Pierce/Green
KG/Baby
Shaq/JO/Kristic

  I'd just as soon see

Rondo/delonte
Ray/Pierce
Pierce/Green
KG/Baby/Green
Shaq/JO/Kristic

[WeMadeIt17]

I dont see how Murphy gets berried in this bench. He is a good player as good as Nenad or Baby. I like how Nenad is playing though.

[droponov]

Brewer is different than Tony Allen. More defensive potential (longer, more athletic than the post-injury Allen), less prone to mental mistakes and he has the skill-set and mentality of a role-player. He'll be more of a Shane Battier type of player while Tony Allen is a boom/bust type of player, very prone to oscillations of form and that is very eager to participate offensively, to have the ball, to make plays.

[BballTim]

I dont see how Murphy gets berried in this bench. He is a good player as good as Nenad or Baby. I like how Nenad is playing though.

  Probably true, but I'd have to see him in the Celts for a few games to really know how he'll fit into any lineups.