Corey Brewer bought out (updates) Celtics interested

[Tai]

can Dallas use the MLE to just claim Brewer off waivers?

or does it not work that way?

No, but they could use the trade exception they have for Matt Carroll. If they can't negotiate a long-term deal, you can probably count on that happening. TP.

Didn't the Celtics get a trade exception from the Kings, or am I mistaken?

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IT's being reported that a number of teams are offering Brewer multi-year deals with their (likely partial, not full) MLE money. if that's the case, i think he's a major longshot to end up with the Cs.

Also -- supposedly he's talking to Rick Carlisle, Gregg Pop and Doc today.

Unless it is close to the full MLE, I think he might be better off taking a 1 year deal, exposing himself in the playoffs, and then trying to catch on this summer on a bigger deal.

If he can get 3-4million per for 3 or 4 seasons before the CBA goes down, that'd be pretty tough to turn down for a D specialist in a Bruce Bowen type role.

I find it difficult to believe any team is going to give the guy 3-4 years. He plays the most easily replaced position in the NBA, utility swingman, and he has always been merely solid, not extraordinary. Plus the uncertainty regarding the new CBA. If some team wants to give him the full MLE for 3 or 4,then so be it, he's not worth it..

Best comp for Brewer: TA. Look at his deal.

[Jeff]

can Dallas use the MLE to just claim Brewer off waivers?

or does it not work that way?

No, but they could use the trade exception they have for Matt Carroll. If they can't negotiate a long-term deal, you can probably count on that happening. TP.

Didn't the Celtics get a trade exception from the Kings, or am I mistaken?

only 2.3M - not enough to cover Brewer's 3.7M

[Tai]

can Dallas use the MLE to just claim Brewer off waivers?

or does it not work that way?

No, but they could use the trade exception they have for Matt Carroll. If they can't negotiate a long-term deal, you can probably count on that happening. TP.

Didn't the Celtics get a trade exception from the Kings, or am I mistaken?

only 2.3M - not enough to cover Brewer's 3.7M

So he'd be taking a 1.4M cut to come here....well, we'll see if that's worth it to play on a NBA team submerged in history. 

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can Dallas use the MLE to just claim Brewer off waivers?

or does it not work that way?

No, but they could use the trade exception they have for Matt Carroll. If they can't negotiate a long-term deal, you can probably count on that happening. TP.

Didn't the Celtics get a trade exception from the Kings, or am I mistaken?

only 2.3M - not enough to cover Brewer's 3.7M

So he'd be taking a 1.4M cut to come here....well, we'll see if that's worth it to play on a NBA team submerged in history. 

So basically -- there's no way he comes to Boston. Too bad.

[the_Bird]

can Dallas use the MLE to just claim Brewer off waivers?

or does it not work that way?

No, but they could use the trade exception they have for Matt Carroll. If they can't negotiate a long-term deal, you can probably count on that happening. TP.

Didn't the Celtics get a trade exception from the Kings, or am I mistaken?

only 2.3M - not enough to cover Brewer's 3.7M

So he'd be taking a 1.4M cut to come here....well, we'll see if that's worth it to play on a NBA team submerged in history.  

Uh, no.  The trade exception has nothing to do with what kind of contract we can sign him to, just whether we can claim him off waivers or not (we can't).  So, if we sign him, the only thing we can offer is the vet minimum.  He'll just be a free agent, and we have neither cap space nor the MLE or LLE.

Not sure how much he's leaving on the table in his buyout, but he'll probably come out even on the whole deal.  I doubt he's giving up much more than a couple hundred thousand.  Was reading today about someone else who was bought out, might have been Al Thorton, who agreed to forgo about $400k off his old contract.  That strikes me as being typical for a buyout - more-or-less equivalent to what one of these guys would make on a vet-min deal for a few months.

[Jeff]

no, if you claim a guy off waivers, you have to take the whole salary - the player doesn't have a choice of taking less from someone else

shamsports just confirmed via twitter that we are correct - Dallas can claim him with their trade exception

I think this is a done deal but that's just a hunch

I can't imagine Dallas not claiming him or perhaps working out a multi-year deal with him

[Chris]

IT's being reported that a number of teams are offering Brewer multi-year deals with their (likely partial, not full) MLE money. if that's the case, i think he's a major longshot to end up with the Cs.

Also -- supposedly he's talking to Rick Carlisle, Gregg Pop and Doc today.

Unless it is close to the full MLE, I think he might be better off taking a 1 year deal, exposing himself in the playoffs, and then trying to catch on this summer on a bigger deal.

If he can get 3-4million per for 3 or 4 seasons before the CBA goes down, that'd be pretty tough to turn down for a D specialist in a Bruce Bowen type role.

I find it difficult to believe any team is going to give the guy 3-4 years. He plays the most easily replaced position in the NBA, utility swingman, and he has always been merely solid, not extraordinary. Plus the uncertainty regarding the new CBA. If some team wants to give him the full MLE for 3 or 4,then so be it, he's not worth it..

Best comp for Brewer: TA. Look at his deal.

Yup, and TA signed that deal coming off being the primary backup wing on a team 1 win away from a championship.  

Frankly, the more I think about it, the less I think Dallas is even willing to use part of its MLE.  My guess is the reason this decision is not a slam dunk is because Dallas is offering the minimum like everyone else.

[Bankshot]

no, if you claim a guy off waivers, you have to take the whole salary - the player doesn't have a choice of taking less from someone else

shamsports just confirmed via twitter that we are correct - Dallas can claim him with their trade exception

I think this is a done deal but that's just a hunch

I can't imagine Dallas not claiming him or perhaps working out a multi-year deal with him

Maybe they'd prefer a veteran like Sasha instead.

Can a player ask a team claiming him off waivers not to if they don't want to play for that team?

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IT's being reported that a number of teams are offering Brewer multi-year deals with their (likely partial, not full) MLE money. if that's the case, i think he's a major longshot to end up with the Cs.

Also -- supposedly he's talking to Rick Carlisle, Gregg Pop and Doc today.

Unless it is close to the full MLE, I think he might be better off taking a 1 year deal, exposing himself in the playoffs, and then trying to catch on this summer on a bigger deal.

If he can get 3-4million per for 3 or 4 seasons before the CBA goes down, that'd be pretty tough to turn down for a D specialist in a Bruce Bowen type role.

I find it difficult to believe any team is going to give the guy 3-4 years. He plays the most easily replaced position in the NBA, utility swingman, and he has always been merely solid, not extraordinary. Plus the uncertainty regarding the new CBA. If some team wants to give him the full MLE for 3 or 4,then so be it, he's not worth it..

Best comp for Brewer: TA. Look at his deal.

Yup, and TA signed that deal coming off being the primary backup wing on a team 1 win away from a championship.  

Frankly, the more I think about it, the less I think Dallas is even willing to use part of its MLE.  My guess is the reason this decision is not a slam dunk is because Dallas is offering the minimum like everyone else.

Don't follow your reasoning Chris. Dallas can use either their existing MLE to sign him to a multi-year deal, or their trade exception (Matt Carroll) to claim him. They likely will do one or the other.

[Chris]

IT's being reported that a number of teams are offering Brewer multi-year deals with their (likely partial, not full) MLE money. if that's the case, i think he's a major longshot to end up with the Cs.

Also -- supposedly he's talking to Rick Carlisle, Gregg Pop and Doc today.

Unless it is close to the full MLE, I think he might be better off taking a 1 year deal, exposing himself in the playoffs, and then trying to catch on this summer on a bigger deal.

If he can get 3-4million per for 3 or 4 seasons before the CBA goes down, that'd be pretty tough to turn down for a D specialist in a Bruce Bowen type role.

I find it difficult to believe any team is going to give the guy 3-4 years. He plays the most easily replaced position in the NBA, utility swingman, and he has always been merely solid, not extraordinary. Plus the uncertainty regarding the new CBA. If some team wants to give him the full MLE for 3 or 4,then so be it, he's not worth it..

Best comp for Brewer: TA. Look at his deal.

Yup, and TA signed that deal coming off being the primary backup wing on a team 1 win away from a championship.  

Frankly, the more I think about it, the less I think Dallas is even willing to use part of its MLE.  My guess is the reason this decision is not a slam dunk is because Dallas is offering the minimum like everyone else.

Don't follow your reasoning Chris. Dallas can use either their existing MLE to sign him to a multi-year deal, or their trade exception (Matt Carroll) to claim him. They likely will do one or the other.

My reasoning is that just because they have the money does not mean they are interested in giving it to him.  That is a huge assumption everyone is making.  

This is a guy who was cut by the Knicks, and has been iffy at best on one of the worst teams in the league.  Perhaps they feel that he is not worth more than the veteran minimum, and are not willing to pay a premium for him.  

I think this scenario makes the fact that he hasn't made a decision yet make a lot more sense, since if Dallas really was offering significantly more money than all the other contenders, it would likely be an easy decision.

[heitingas]

I think it's between Mavs and Celtics, but Mavs won't sign him to a multiyear deal. Not past Nowitzki and not during 2012 when they can sign a FA.

SO it's about what role Brewer will have on the team, and I think money is the only plus on the Mavs but Brewer was bought out so he already took his money.

[ssspence]

IT's being reported that a number of teams are offering Brewer multi-year deals with their (likely partial, not full) MLE money. if that's the case, i think he's a major longshot to end up with the Cs.

Also -- supposedly he's talking to Rick Carlisle, Gregg Pop and Doc today.

Unless it is close to the full MLE, I think he might be better off taking a 1 year deal, exposing himself in the playoffs, and then trying to catch on this summer on a bigger deal.

If he can get 3-4million per for 3 or 4 seasons before the CBA goes down, that'd be pretty tough to turn down for a D specialist in a Bruce Bowen type role.

I find it difficult to believe any team is going to give the guy 3-4 years. He plays the most easily replaced position in the NBA, utility swingman, and he has always been merely solid, not extraordinary. Plus the uncertainty regarding the new CBA. If some team wants to give him the full MLE for 3 or 4,then so be it, he's not worth it..

Best comp for Brewer: TA. Look at his deal.

Yup, and TA signed that deal coming off being the primary backup wing on a team 1 win away from a championship.  

Frankly, the more I think about it, the less I think Dallas is even willing to use part of its MLE.  My guess is the reason this decision is not a slam dunk is because Dallas is offering the minimum like everyone else.

Don't follow your reasoning Chris. Dallas can use either their existing MLE to sign him to a multi-year deal, or their trade exception (Matt Carroll) to claim him. They likely will do one or the other.

My reasoning is that just because they have the money does not mean they are interested in giving it to him.  That is a huge assumption everyone is making.  

This is a guy who was cut by the Knicks, and has been iffy at best on one of the worst teams in the league.  Perhaps they feel that he is not worth more than the veteran minimum, and are not willing to pay a premium for him.  

I think this scenario makes the fact that he hasn't made a decision yet make a lot more sense, since if Dallas really was offering significantly more money than all the other contenders, it would likely be an easy decision.

It's been widely reported that Dallas is actively pursuing him, and he hasn't even cleared waivers yet so how easy the decision is seems a bit premature (has it even been a full business day?).

Since when are the Knicks a good judge of value? Would you cut Brewer to get Jeffries? Ridiculous.

Brewer's easily one of the leagues top wing defenders, and Dallas needs one badly. They've been looking far and wide since Butler went down.  Dallas is his most likely landing spot.

[Chris]

Brewer's easily one of the leagues top wing defenders

The rest of your post makes sense (even if I disagree), but this is a massive overstatement IMO.  He may have some potential defensively, but there is no way he is a top wing defender right now. 

[heitingas]

this might change things

Jorge Sierra: Caron Butler sounds optimistic about a quick return. http://bit.ly/f98ZST