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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #105 on: May 21, 2011, 08:12:44 PM »

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You're not a contributor (or that good of a player) if you don't appear on a stat-sheet. Plain and simple

All the people that support Perk is because of emotion. He represents something for them. I respect that, but he's average at best

There are so many threads about Dwight Howard and how much they want him on the Celtics. Everyone praises him for his gaudy stats of 22 and 13, and say he's a difference maker
But on the other hand fans say Perk's stats don't matter. But somehow he's uplifting the already potent OKC Thunder

Can't have it both ways

Osirus - love your posts here on the blog - and I agree with you most of the time.

But I whole-heartedly agree with my comparison of Perk to what JO, Shaq, Bill and Chief did for us here in Boston.

Somethings, such as heart - as just not quantifiable.

I do know that most NBA players have heart and desire...if they didn't, they wouldn't be in the NBA.

But when you do it..that Center spot - in Boston - that is a different level of commitment.

Kendrick Perkins..as KG called himself after winning in 07-08 - is Certified.

Yeah, agree with you
Perk has alot of heart and toughness. Doesn't back down takes his job seriously, and a hard worker. I understand what he represented for Boston. A hard working town

Its just that I think the love is a little too much. Personally I'm astonished that he's getting more love than Paul Pierce, which is criminal. Yes Perk was on the '08 title team, but the Big 3 are the reason he won that title. I love the Big 3 too much to not give them their due respect

Osirus - I don't think the love is too much. It is something about being a Celtic that warrants it.

That - to me - is what sets Perk apart. The Celtics are truly a fabled franchise, and Perk did his thing here. That is why he's getting the love.

It's Boston.

I, as well as others on here - even mentioned how KG did in fact mentor Perk...KG (and Clifford Ray) is in fact a big reason why Perk is successful.

But it takes a willing heart. Perk had been here before KG was, but when KG got here Perk just soaked him up...started getting meaner..getting a swag to him.

That is why Perk took on number 5 in OKC.

Yes - Perk (and Rondo) have benefitted from the Big Three.

But Boston is not a "plug-and-play" team. Not everyone can come here and do it, especially in the middle.

Perk (and JO, Shaq, Bill and Chief) have done it, and even Rasheed to a point.

And along the way, everyone benefits. Ubuntu. Ubuntu doesn't always equal stats.

You're right. Ubuntu was a big part of that 2008 title, it is a team effort
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #106 on: May 21, 2011, 08:13:40 PM »

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Slightly off-topic, but I cannot recall if Sheed was even revered much in the places he played at...I know in DET he won a ring, but in just a matter of a few playoff games in 09-10 and that courageous Game 7 performance, you still see "bring back Sheed" threads.

Yes - Sheed seemed to mail it in during the regular season, but man did he play his tail off that post-season, especially vs Gasol in that Game 7.

That is one of the reasons why I can understand why Perk is getting the love.

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #107 on: May 21, 2011, 08:42:11 PM »

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For myself, I can't explain it, but from Perk's rookie year, back when he was a pudgy raw teenager, he became my favorite Celtic.  Everyone has favorite players.  For some it's Bird.  For some it's Russell.  For some it's Pierce, etc.  I have been a fan since the end of the Russell years.  I never really had a favorite.  I loved Bird and McHale and Parish, and DJ and have loved every Celtics along the way, but none really were my "favorite player."  For some reason,  I just took to Perk.  Maybe it was how hard he worked that first season and was so positive and we saw him turn into an NBA center right in front of our eyes.  I feel like he's one of my own kids in a way.  I watched him grow up and loved his attitude and work ethic and his attitude as he did it. 

So, for me, my love for Perk goes way back when every day there was a new "trade Perk" thread because he could never be a center on a championship team.  It's not new. It's not something I realized recently.  It's something that has grown along with Perk's growth. 

That's why he was my favorite Celtic and why he is still my favorite player.  I'll probably never have a favorite player like that again.  Like I said, I can't explain it.  It doesn't matter to me how much love other players get or how much they deserve.   I love Perk -  I always have since he joined the Celtics and I always will even though he is no longer a Celtic. 

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #108 on: May 21, 2011, 09:52:30 PM »

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A lot of fan love on this blog, and not a lot of objective analysis of what Perkins brings to the table. The reality is the trade really didn't help either team.

Maybe because this is an appreciation thread...?

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #109 on: May 21, 2011, 09:53:45 PM »

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Gotta side with Osirus on this one.

Perkins was a good fit in Thibs' defensive system. Becoming more and more apparent with every game, though, that in the middle of a starting group that doesn't defend at all, he's just another guy. Chandler has had his way with him inside in this series.

A lot of fan love on this blog, and not a lot of objective analysis of what Perkins brings to the table. The reality is the trade really didn't help either team.

But ... do you want Perkins' contract on this team as constituted? I don't. Just a horrid, horrid contract for what he's contributing to OKC. They're gonna hate that deal down the road.

He was a good role player on the Celtics, but as with Baby, his contract expectations FAR outstripped his actual value on the floor.


You're in the wrong thread.

This is an "appreciation" thread.  Please be warned, anybody who comes in here to criticize Perk or his fans will be deemed to be trolling / baiting.

As mentioned above, there are literally dozens of threads on this blog dealing with Kendrick Perkins.  If people can't contribute something on-topic to this discussion, they should move to a different thread.

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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #110 on: May 21, 2011, 09:55:20 PM »

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Perkins can be appreciated on this blog for what he contributed to the Celtics, without his skillset being blown completely out of proportion, as it frequently is here.

I worry about him without Garnett beside him, and where his career is headed.

As far as the Celtics and the franchise's future is concerned, I thank God every time I watch OKC play that Danny didn't pay him $36 million. What an awful mistake that would have been.

As for baiting and trolling, that's unfair and it's a cheap shot, albeit an expected one from the source.

Perkins was a great piece of a championship team. But he priced himself out of this market.
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2011, 10:04:41 PM »

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I am glad that you are happy about Perkins being gone.  I am not happy about it, although I do understand it.  I would like to point out, thought, that as badly as you say Perkins is playing, the Thunder are still in the Playoffs, while the Celtics are not.  You may say that Perkins has nothing to do with that, but that would be an opinion, not necessarily a fact.   But, we, also, must consider the "source", as you put it.   

I am going to apologize for my snarkiness....and ask you please to allow us our opinions and take your opinions to a thread where they might be more relevant..
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2011, 10:06:15 PM »

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As for baiting and trolling, that's unfair and it's a cheap shot, albeit an expected one from the source.

How is it a cheap shot? Coming in to a thread titled "Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread" and taking it off course by talking about the contract and how Danny saved the franchise's future by not giving him that contract...that sounds like baiting to me.

You are well aware of the numerous threads that are about discussing the trade and the players involved....you've said the same thing you said above in those threads as well. If you feel that you're point has not come across yet, repost it in the appropriate thread. Why are you hijacking this one and then accusing others of cheap shots?
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2011, 10:07:41 PM »

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I am glad that you are happy about Perkins being gone.  I am not happy about it, although I do understand it.  I would like to point out, thought, that as badly as you say Perkins is playing, the Thunder are still in the Playoffs, while the Celtics are not.  You may say that Perkins has nothing to do with that, but that would be an opinion, not necessarily a fact.   But, we, also, must consider the "source", as you put it.   

I am going to apologize for my snarkiness....and ask you please to allow us our opinions and take your opinions to a thread where they might be more relevant..

TP. Well said T'boots.
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #114 on: May 21, 2011, 10:25:09 PM »

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Perkins can be appreciated on this blog for what he contributed to the Celtics, without his skillset being blown completely out of proportion, as it frequently is here.

I worry about him without Garnett beside him, and where his career is headed.

As far as the Celtics and the franchise's future is concerned, I thank God every time I watch OKC play that Danny didn't pay him $36 million. What an awful mistake that would have been.

As for baiting and trolling, that's unfair and it's a cheap shot, albeit an expected one from the source.

Perkins was a great piece of a championship team. But he priced himself out of this market.

Coach - I don't think anyone here blows KP's skillset out of proportion.

I may not have liked The Trade, but I understand why Danny did it, too.

I suppose in a perfect world, Marquis would not have went down, and maybe then Danny would've stopped just short of getting Jeff and Nenad and trading Perk....who knows?

With Perk, we could've still been playing....who knows, right?

Knowing Perk, he may have come back to Boston on a hometown discount....who knows?

But I do know that with this being Perk's probable last shot at anything close to a max contract, he deserves this opportunity, regardless of what his skillset is.

At worst, he will give LA fits (along with MEM and DAL) for the forseeable future, and for that I am glad.

And with that limited skillset of his, he will anchor OKC's defense, mentor Serge and Nick, and take what he's learned from KG and earn that contract in OKC.

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #115 on: May 21, 2011, 10:41:13 PM »

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Perkins can be appreciated on this blog for what he contributed to the Celtics, without his skillset being blown completely out of proportion, as it frequently is here.

I worry about him without Garnett beside him, and where his career is headed.
Yeah, I was worried about Perk's future without Garnett too.

I thought Perk's team defense was exposed whenever Garnett was off the court over the last two seasons here in Boston. I thought Perk struggled whenever he didn't have someone with above average quickness and mobility alongside him (say BBD) to help cover his own physical limitations. Without that above average quickness + defensive ability, I thought the team defense dropped off hugely. 

Luckily, for Perk, I think he has found himself a great home in Oklahoma City alongside Serge Ibaka. Ibaka's speed, overall athleticism and defensive ability will provide great cover to Perk's weaknesses (defensively) and they should complement one another very well.

Well, assuming his body holds up and gets back to where it was before the injury ... and hopefully it will in the future.

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #116 on: May 21, 2011, 11:45:39 PM »

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4 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 turnovers in 30 minutes tonight for Perkins. That's money well spent.

Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #117 on: May 21, 2011, 11:49:16 PM »

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You guys love to ignore the warnings, huh. And you'll be screaming "authority abuse" if you're disciplined after this. smh.
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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #118 on: May 21, 2011, 11:51:41 PM »

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This is an "appreciation" thread.  Please be warned, anybody who comes in here to criticize Perk or his fans will be deemed to be trolling / baiting.

As mentioned above, there are literally dozens of threads on this blog dealing with Kendrick Perkins.  If people can't contribute something on-topic to this discussion, they should move to a different thread.


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Re: Kendrick Perkins Appreciation Thread
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2011, 01:06:26 AM »

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I am glad that you are happy about Perkins being gone.  I am not happy about it, although I do understand it.  I would like to point out, thought, that as badly as you say Perkins is playing, the Thunder are still in the Playoffs, while the Celtics are not.  You may say that Perkins has nothing to do with that, but that would be an opinion, not necessarily a fact.   But, we, also, must consider the "source", as you put it.   

I am going to apologize for my snarkiness....and ask you please to allow us our opinions and take your opinions to a thread where they might be more relevant..

TP. Well said T'boots.


TP from me as well... I agree