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Would BBD be much better if he lost 25-30 LBS?
« on: February 13, 2011, 02:11:49 PM »

Offline rondohondo

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I think if BBD actually took his weight serious he could be a much better player. The guy has no explosiveness, but he has very quick feet and is very agile. If he just took off 30 LBS he would be so much quicker and explosive. Sure he isn't a dunker, but being quicker would allow him to be a better scorer.


I would rather have him lose 30 LBS and stick to being a backup PF. He is to undersized to play center against most teams anyways.


Come on BBD, If you lose the weight you might actually be able to get that long term contract you are looking for . Get you fat behind in shape!

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 02:12:52 PM »

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Yes, he'd be a cross between Udonis Haslem and David West ... in terms of defensive + offensive ability.

Hopefully, it would help him rebound more but probably not.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 02:50:21 PM »

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i say def yes.....! higher jump, faster step, maybe get some steals...run with rondo.....anyone who ever was overweight, then lost some will know.....easier on the legs too...then he could dunk more, get his shot blocked less.......he needs to lose the weight for sure..!

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 03:46:24 PM »

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I dont know how much quicker you want him to be. For a guy of his size he moves his feet incredible well on defense, and on offense his first move is incredible hard to stop. He might loose some strength and that uncanny ability to finish around the basket if he didnt have that weight to throw around. However, he might actually be able to get over the rim.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 04:31:48 PM »

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He'd be a better player offensively, but part of his value defensively is his size.  Just watch him guard Howard, who tries to bump him before he goes up every time.  Howard can still shoot over him, but since Davis doesn't give any ground on the bump, Howard often comes up short. 

Is that limited?  Yes.  But for the C's, his girth can help.

But BBD would have a far better NBA career and make more money if he lost weight. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 05:01:48 PM »

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I dont know how much quicker you want him to be. For a guy of his size he moves his feet incredible well on defense, and on offense his first move is incredible hard to stop. He might loose some strength and that uncanny ability to finish around the basket if he didnt have that weight to throw around. However, he might actually be able to get over the rim.

Yes, yes, yes he would be a better player. Instead of saying he's quick "for a guy his size," he'd just be "quick." Instead of an "uncanny" ability to finish at the basket, he might just have a "canny" ability. There's a reason that the potential of overweight prospects are always judged on whether they'll be able to drop weight or at the very least maintain weight: Fitter is Better. No scout has ever looked at someone like Davis, Shaq, Sweetney, Curry, Traylor, Per, etc. and said "boy, i hope they maintain that weight or don't lose too much!"

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 06:20:25 PM »

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He'd be a better player offensively, but part of his value defensively is his size.  Just watch him guard Howard, who tries to bump him before he goes up every time.  Howard can still shoot over him, but since Davis doesn't give any ground on the bump, Howard often comes up short. 

Is that limited?  Yes.  But for the C's, his girth can help.

But BBD would have a far better NBA career and make more money if he lost weight. 
I agree. One of the things I love about bbd is the fact that no one is pushing him off his spot. And on offense, he basically bulls his way into whatever position he wants. Bbd's strength is strengh and frankly, his girth. Is he going to start blowing by people? I'm not sure how much he would really gain by losing weight? What I do know is that he will be easier to move.

So basically, I like him the way he is and I wouldn't risk changing him.

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 06:27:37 PM »

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The main thing Davis has going for him is his width. Why on earth would anyone want him to lose weight? If he dropped 20 the big boys would squash him like a gnat. He's not called on for lots of play time. He's a real factor now. Besides skinny dudes are always getting hurt. Let someone else build a better mouse trap.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 06:34:54 PM »

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As others have posted part of his good low post d is because of his girth.  I would much rather see him work on boxing out!  He rebounds more like a sf.  A major issue for us against a big frontline like the lakers is glens inability to rebound or keep his man off the boards (at least).   Bynum and gasol killed us on the boards last game

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 06:57:22 PM »

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I know he missed a dunk in the 1st half, but please.  Baby's size/width is the reason he's an effective NBA player - he's cut down a lot of the "baby" fat over the years, now he's a tank really - take it away and he's a classic tweener who gets pushed around - seeing him post up James Jone over and over was a thing of beauty

plus based on build I don't think he could lose weight if he wanted to, his set point is probably 260-270
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 07:28:51 PM »

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No.

He'll then be a one position player. He won't be able to guard Centers.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 12:11:24 PM »

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It's a good question. I think the answer is yes, absolutely. Big Baby has improved his body a little bit each year and it has correponded directly with incremental improvements in his game.

He should definately lose about another 20-25 lbs and get down to around 265 to 270 lbs.

1. At roughly 270 lbs there wouls still be very few guys in the league that weigh more than him. For example, Bynum weighs 285 and Howard weighs 265...

2. By losing 20 more pounds Baby wouldn't be losing muscle, he'd be losing "FAT". You cna see it under his shirt when he runs. He's made improvements for sure, but he's still pudgy.

3. And that's the thing - I think if Baby lost another twenty pounds, he'd actually get stronger, not weaker. He'd have better muscle tone, blance, overall strength and agility.

4. He'd be "better" able to guard the big guys like Howard, Bynum, whoever because he would be a better athlete. Similarly, he'd be quicker, stonger and more agile and this would allow him to put alot more damage on most power forwards as well.

5. Baby isn't so strong because he's fat or becaue of his weight, he's so strong because he's built like a tank "in his frame", his bones and his natural muscle mass. It's not the fat. The fat makes him weaker actually. His legs are like tree trunks, he needs to lose that fat on his upper body.

6. In short, if he lost another 20 lbs he's become more like Barkeley (minus the long arms) and less like Oliver Miller.

7. It would be the best career move he could make. If he doesn't do it he'll probably start getting knee problems sooner rather than later.

8. If he lost another 20, and did a karl Malone / Perkins routine on us, we could be looking at a guy who can still guard the center and power forward positions, as well as some samll forward on D, and possibly put up near 20-10 numbers if playing 38 minutes a night.   

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2011, 12:31:20 PM »

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No.

He'll then be a one position player. He won't be able to guard Centers.
The best reason I've heard against the weight loss.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2011, 12:34:36 PM »

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No.

He'll then be a one position player. He won't be able to guard Centers.
What he said. If he wasn't so "big" then he'd be too short and pushed around. Now he's too short and can push people around.
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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2011, 12:36:07 PM »

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He'd be a better player offensively, but part of his value defensively is his size.  Just watch him guard Howard, who tries to bump him before he goes up every time.  Howard can still shoot over him, but since Davis doesn't give any ground on the bump, Howard often comes up short. 

Is that limited?  Yes.  But for the C's, his girth can help.

But BBD would have a far better NBA career and make more money if he lost weight. 
I agree. One of the things I love about bbd is the fact that no one is pushing him off his spot. And on offense, he basically bulls his way into whatever position he wants. Bbd's strength is strengh and frankly, his girth. Is he going to start blowing by people? I'm not sure how much he would really gain by losing weight? What I do know is that he will be easier to move.

So basically, I like him the way he is and I wouldn't risk changing him.
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I think we should all be happy with his attitude and production this year. good job Glen.