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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2011, 11:14:13 AM »

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Vinnie, don't most young generationers like to show off? Isn't it just part of being young? I don't think it's different with any generation. Just MO.

Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is what our society has become. No one respects anyone or anything. Everyone is too caught up in their world, their drama, their music, their space, etc. It's all about me. Look at me on the Internet, listen to me talk loud on my cellphone so everyone knows how important I am, and so on. I am probably one of the older guys on the board, and it pains me when things like this happen. However, I have learned to let it roll off my back. If I didn't, I would be in an insane asylum.

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2011, 11:17:35 AM »

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TP for being 23 and being here participating.
I agree that once a person reaches the age of, say, 30, they should know better and be a better example.

Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is what our society has become. No one respects anyone or anything. Everyone is too caught up in their world, their drama, their music, their space, etc. It's all about me. Look at me on the Internet, listen to me talk loud on my cellphone so everyone knows how important I am, and so on. I am probably one of the older guys on the board, and it pains me when things like this happen. However, I have learned to let it roll off my back. If I didn't, I would be in an insane asylum.

It's not just your age, I'm 23 and I feel the same way.  It's a selfish world out there now.  No one cares about anyone else.  We just happen to be from a large drinking town which amplifies it by about 10.  The thing that really makes me mad is when older people do things like that.  So youre 18-21, maybe you don't know better. When I see a 40 year old get trashed and do something stupid such as scream during a moment of silence, I get legit embarrassed for them.  It's awful.

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2011, 11:20:43 AM »

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Vinnie, don't most young generationers like to show off? Isn't it just part of being young? I don't think it's different with any generation. Just MO.

"66 has a way of forgetting what 22 was like". 


(I don't know if those are the exact numbers used in that quote but they still ring very true)

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2011, 11:23:39 AM »

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Could be worse...they could be Chicago Bears fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEruLtj7CuU

i think this is awesome!  gives me goosebumps watching. i can only image how it would feel in person.

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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2011, 11:26:35 AM »

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Vinnie, don't most young generationers like to show off? Isn't it just part of being young? I don't think it's different with any generation. Just MO.

"66 has a way of forgetting what 22 was like".

Hehe...but great wisdom.  ;D


(I don't know if those are the exact numbers used in that quote but they still ring very true)

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2011, 11:30:14 AM »

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I think the whole "moment of silence" thing as opposed to a "moment of prayer" is just the result of a growing number of athiests who are also becoming more tired of having to hear about god everywhere they go. Its somewhat like (to a lesser degree) the same thing minorities, women, homosexuals etc have gone through.. As time goes by more and more people stand up and say ya know what, i'm tired of this, ackowledge my beliefs too, just like you do everyone else.

It's much like the whole "happy holidays" vs "merry christmas" thing you hear people complain about all the time.

More and more people are starting to believe in nothing, basically :P





LOL. Let's not get too crazy with this talk.

What is crazy about what I said?

Athiests are becoming more vocal and open about thier beliefs.
Athiests are still for the most part a "minority".

Much like other "minorities" or "religious groups" athiests dont want thier beliefs or way of life being interferred with because of someone elses personal beliefs.

There's nothing crazy or radical about what I said, I didnt insult anyone or place blame on anyone for anything.

 

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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2011, 11:35:10 AM »

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I only had time to read the OP's thread and not everyone else's comments.  But as a season ticket holder who attends many games I'll just say that the fans interrupt the national anthem EVERY game with "go c's chants".  So no surprise they did that towards the end of the MLK moment of silence. 

I guess I agree that it is somewhat inappropriate but it's also become a sort of tradition.

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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2011, 11:54:02 AM »

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Vinnie, don't most young generationers like to show off? Isn't it just part of being young? I don't think it's different with any generation. Just MO.

"66 has a way of forgetting what 22 was like". 

(I don't know if those are the exact numbers used in that quote but they still ring very true)

I prefer this one:

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I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint
   - Hesiod, 8th century BC

Same as it ever was. 

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2011, 11:55:19 AM »

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Not sure why anyone is surprised. This is what our society has become. No one respects anyone or anything. Everyone is too caught up in their world, their drama, their music, their space, etc. It's all about me. Look at me on the Internet, listen to me talk loud on my cellphone so everyone knows how important I am, and so on. I am probably one of the older guys on the board, and it pains me when things like this happen. However, I have learned to let it roll off my back. If I didn't, I would be in an insane asylum.

In my experience, it's mostly a Boston/North East societal thing.  I never even noticed this phenomena until I visited North Carolina for the first time a few years ago; I just took for granted that was the way people are and had always been.  I was visiting a friend down there who attends Duke U.  He was a co-worker of min a few years back in the north shore, originally from Chicago, and would gripe often about how self-centered and unfriendly Boston people were.  I agreed with him to an extent, but hadn't been outside the area enough to really understand it like he did.  Then I went to NC, and met some of his friends.  I was seriously blown away by how many questions they would ask me during conversation and how genuinely interested they were to converse with me.  Not talk at me, but converse with me.  It was about a year later than I spent a few months living in Guatemala and found the same thing true about many other people I met from Europe, Australia, and other parts of the US.  (I was too interested to listen to people from Central American talk about their experiences to allow myself to actually share anything.)

I do think it's more prevalent in Boston/North East than elsewhere, but I do agree with vinnie that it is a product of "Generation Me" as well.  Look at facebook - what was originally a "social network" which was a great means of communication is now dominated by this "news feed" of people "sharing" what they are doing with a whole bunch of people who largely don't give a crap.
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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2011, 12:59:20 PM »

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On the flip-side, you got to see one of the best games of the year, got to see the celtics on MLK day, (pretty cool) and you witnessed 45 seconds of silence towards one of our greatest leaders of the past century.  Sounds pretty fun to me.

Guess I'm a glass 3/4 filled guy.

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Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2011, 02:05:05 PM »

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I think the whole "moment of silence" thing as opposed to a "moment of prayer" is just the result of a growing number of athiests who are also becoming more tired of having to hear about god everywhere they go. Its somewhat like (to a lesser degree) the same thing minorities, women, homosexuals etc have gone through.. As time goes by more and more people stand up and say ya know what, i'm tired of this, ackowledge my beliefs too, just like you do everyone else.

It's much like the whole "happy holidays" vs "merry christmas" thing you hear people complain about all the time.

More and more people are starting to believe in nothing, basically :P





True. But atheists actually do believe in something: That our universe can be explained (in a purely scientific context) as a series of events that took place for no particular reason and here we are today, billions of years later  ;)

Re: Why I became embarrassed to be a Celtic fan for 15 seconds.
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2011, 03:40:58 PM »

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The real timing: Announcer Eddie announced the minute, and after only 19 seconds, the first shout broke the silence. By about 10 seconds later, there were hundreds of people shouting; the "moment" was clearly over, and Eddie just continued on with the pre-game activities. 29 seconds total, and ruined after only 19 seconds.

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« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2011, 04:11:13 PM »

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It doesn't bother me as an atheist that they have a moment of silence.  I don't believe in prayer but its time for me to sit and think which is what praying are doing in all honesty.  I've never been offended by a prayer as I find the whole matter beneath me.  I think we should respect another's beliefs.  It may surprise you but I have respect for people who truly believe they have a faith that I never could have.

But this whole animous towards religion that some atheists have is ridiculous.  Its a show of respect as much as a religous moment if one thinks about it.  I am secure in my non belief that it doesn't offend me.  Let people do their things and move on.   Most people have no clue about America's religious history.  Most of the founding fathers were deists not modern Christians they knew all too well the rigors of religous intolerance.

I don't see how a moment of respecting the dead or a great man's achievements should affect anyone. 

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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2011, 04:40:28 PM »

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Someone asked if I thought it has been the same in every generation. My answer is no: The internet, cell phones, iPods and reality television are all a big part of what has made this generation different, much more selfish, and in many cases insufferable. Everyone thinks they can be a star -- just like the morons on Jersey Shore. Wow, would I be proud if my kids were like that -- NOT. Bottom line is this is the most entitled, me, me, me, generation that has ever been raised. And sadly, I don't see it getting much better.

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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2011, 05:25:25 PM »

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TP Nick, I was there too and was mortified.  But it only served to confirm what I already knew, people are idiots no matter how awesome their basketball team is  8)